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e-Sword vs BibleDesktop

#16 Post by cafluegg »

I've used both e-Sword and BibleDesktop extensively; in my honest, albeit biased - I say biased opinion, because I've used e-Sword almost since it's inception - opinion, e-Sword cannot be beat. I've tried using gnomesword, bibletime and other various Bible programs, but I have yet to come across a viable, linux equivalent to e-Sword.

e-Sword is not affiliated with the sword project... that I'm aware of. How can they both use the same modules?

The bottom line is continuity. I began using e-Sword while I was still a MS user, I successfully installed it on my UCE machine and now I am doing the same with churchpup. I have successfully installed it. However, I am only able to open it up from the command line. This method gets the job done, but it is rather cumbersome.

Great results on your Old Testament class! :-)

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#17 Post by edoc »

KF6SNJ wrote: Oh, if anyone is interested, I got an "A" on my Introduction to Old Testament class.
Of course we are interested ... no Bible-slackers on this
Forum! ;-)

Seriously, having studied the OT at the master's level and
taught it at the bachelor's level, I appreciate the effort it
takes to earn an "A"!
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Success....

#18 Post by cafluegg »

First of all, I'd like to thank prairiedog for all of his efforts. He was a great source of help in helping me get everything setup properly on my system.

Secondly, I'd like to say that I finally figured out how to start e-Sword without using the terminal. After installation, wine deposited a e-Sword.desktop file in the /root/.local/share/applications/wine/Programs folder. It had then placed a shortcut in my root folder to the "Programs" folder. I simply copied e-Sword.desktop to my desktop and changed the icon to an e-Sword icon.

I'm a very happy man right now. :-)

Thanks again for a great puppy derivative! I'm sure I'll be back with more questions...

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ChurchPup

#19 Post by ricstef »

@KF6SNJ
Congratulations ! 8)

@Caneri,
A slight variation on your instructions for using wget to download ChurchPup might be:

- highlight the (whole) next line,

wget -c http://www.elmirachristianacademy.com/C ... up_RC1.iso

- RIGHT click and select COPY
- click on CONSOLE (on your desktop)
- in the console window CENTER click (this is the PASTE function)
- hit ENTER to execute.

NOTE: This would download to your /root folder by default, so you may want to CD to
/mnt/home/ and create a folder to keep your downloads in, before you execute the wget.

HTH.
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Re: ChurchPup

#20 Post by edoc »

ricstef wrote: NOTE: This would download to your /root folder by default, so you may want to CD to
/mnt/home/ and create a folder to keep your downloads in, before you execute the wget.
To clarify my understanding, and that of others who will read this down the road ...

Does your wget command download to "whatever folder is open"?

So, if one CD's (changes directory) to /mnt/home/ then MD's (make directory)
"my-downloads" then one CD's again, this time one more level down to "my-downloads"
that your wget command would automatically drop whatever it downloads into the
currently open directory /mnt/home/my-downloads?
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#21 Post by Caneri »

@edoc,

What I do is open Rox to the folder I would like to save a download to and then right click on an open space inside the folder and select "Window".

Then if you look down you will see "open terminal here".

Then proceed to use the wget -c command for a download and it will go into that folder.
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downloading to a specific directory using wget

#22 Post by ricstef »

@edoc,
Does your wget command download to "whatever folder is open"?
Yes, it downloads to the working directory. When you open your console, enter PWD; this will return /root telling you that is your current or working directory. So, to download to a specific directory (or folder) you simply CD to it before starting the wget command.
In your example:
#cd /mnt/home/my-downloads
#wget -c http://www.elmirachristianacademy.com/C ... up_RC1.iso.

What Caneri said is another very good way of doing the same thing but utilizing a feature of Rox.

HTH,
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Re: e-Sword vs BibleDesktop

#23 Post by KF6SNJ »

cafluegg wrote:
e-Sword is not affiliated with the sword project... that I'm aware of. How can they both use the same modules?
I've used e-sword on a winxp laptop (it finally crashed by spilling water on it, rendering it totally useless---oh well), as well as BibleDesktop, GnomeSword, and BibleTime. I learned quite quickly that they all use many of the same modules. The only thing different is that BibleTime doesn't have direct access to modules such as the Book of Concord, though the others do. Beyond that, I don't know what to say. I would rather not waste system resources to run an emulator when it is not needed.

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#24 Post by edoc »

Anyone upgraded from an older Puppy to ChurchPup?

I'd like to do the upgrade from TEENPup but cannot lose all of my Seamonkey settings,
especially the E-mail folders with archived E-mails, Address Book, Bookmarks, and Passwords.
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I guess that upgrades should be part of this testing phase we're in. I'm downloading teenpup now to attempt an upgrade, But I think some programs may clash.

I'm thinking if you had a working ChurchPup installed and could copy the /root/.mozilla directory from TeenPup to/root of your ChurchPup installation, all emails, bookmarks and cookies should import OK. I'll test a few things and report back to you at the New ChurchPup thread
Thanks PrarieDog!

I wonder if there is any difference between the layout of the .mozilla folders between
TEENPup and ChurchPup?

If not that may be the most elegant solution.

I have been using an external USB HDD to save everything because I knew the
TEENPup load was temporary.
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#25 Post by Caneri »

Hi all,

I finally got a good md5sum and have uploaded to

http://www.puppylinux.ca/churchpup/

If anyone needs a fresh download please test my link for me as I can't use anymore local bandwidth for a few days (oh my).

Enjoy and be well.

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#26 Post by PrairieDog »

Hi all,

Thanks for the mirror Eric, And thanks to everyone for the testing, tips, and tricks,and general good will with the project!

Not to mention the fervent prayers.....

Uh...you have all been praying...haven't you?? :wink:

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#27 Post by Subito Piano »

WOW!!! This post has been ACTIVE!!! Very good to see.

Obviously, i have NOT been monitoring this thread -- soooo sorry. I must have not clicked "notify me when a reply is posted."

Regarding the ChurchPup download through the ChurchPup home page - are there lingering problems i need to address, or is all solved? We have a generous allotment of bandwidth available and i want to spare others from using up theirs. Do let me know.

Also, i have been far too busy with school and Christmas and family to attend to the md5 sum. I am hoping there are no problems there.

Regarding e-sword and Bible Desktop, i recall a bit of a cleaner interface with e-sword, since the Strong's references consist not of clicking on numbers added to the text but simply mousing over the numbers -- a nice feature. However, i am concerned about a lightweight program, and i was under the impression the e-sword would be less of a resource hog than Bible Desktop. Am i correct in this? I know the java required for Bible Desktop takes much...i would like to include a LIGHTWEIGHT Bible program in the "lite" version. Y'all's thoughts on this are appreciated....

OK! So i have not dropped off the face of earth! I HOPE to get a Lite version going over break BUT things are piling up on me -- bathroom repair, bedroom "remodelling," 6-10 computers from school to go over -- wait a minute! Aren't we supposed to be celebrating something important this time of year??!?!?! :?

Oh - YES! KF6SNJ - congrats on the "A!" PrairieDog and LOF (and anyone else) -- lemme know anything i need to tweak regarding the website. Glad to see we made an inroad to DistroWatch...hopefully we'll get front-page billing -- in 90 days or so--!??!?!?! *sigh*

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#28 Post by edoc »

Just downloaded from the academy site, took awhile but I used wget and it went smoothly.

A friend also downloaded at home using his new fios (verizon fiber optic) connection -
in a fraction of the time - he's spoiled!

Will advise shortly if my download came through cleanly.
Direct Link:ChurchPup Alpha (458MB)
[EDIT- MD5 sum is 9af3aa3c1f4ed07129bdfcf7f50c16a8 ]


Yuck. I think I may have shagged an older one. :-( md5sum is wrong too:
9af3aa3c1f4ed07129bdfcf7f50c16a8

Is this the most current site?
http://www.elmirachristianacademy.com/churchpup.html

Is this md5sum correct?
12/8/07: ChurchPup RC1 is released! Click here to download the ISO.
374 MB; MD5 sum = ade5857b1f02a1f28cdc9ece0f2d32f4

Is the size 374 MB correct?

EDIT: Just tried ChurchPup_RC1 and the MD5 sum posted is not a match -- again
1dc2e2b8b4e056b38466dc0f959d620d

I used wget in the FireHydrant Puppy distro.

I have rebooted to clean out the buffers and am going to try wget -c from the console
in case there is something wrong with the gui interface in FireHydrant.
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#29 Post by PrairieDog »

edoc wrote: Is the size 374 MB correct
Hi Doc,

The original iso I have on my computer reads 375 M in Rox. I'll test http://www.elmirachristianacademy.com/churchpup.html myself and report to Subito if there's a problem.

Caneri was needing http://www.puppylinux.ca/churchpup/ tested if you want to try there.

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#30 Post by Subito Piano »

OK - let me know! On an earlier post i was told how to get a fresh and hopefully correct md5 from the website. Hmmm....

This was uploaded to the site and then i downloaded and used it (i think that was the order) -- but i really don't know any other way to make sure there was no corruption of data in the transfer...???

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Minimum RAM for ChurchPup?

#31 Post by edoc »

I looked on the ChurchPup site and there is lots of good info there but I didn't see specs as to minimum hardware, especially RAM.

My Panasonic Toughbook CF-28 currently only has 256M
of RAM and I am getting insufficient memory errors when
I try to load it.

FireHydrant FH_JWM3.01_c loads and runs OK.

I have a 2G Linux Swap on the 30G HDD

Could it be something other than RAM?
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Re: Minimum RAM for ChurchPup?

#32 Post by ttuuxxx »

edoc wrote:I looked on the ChurchPup site and there is lots of good info there but I didn't see specs as to minimum hardware, especially RAM.

My Panasonic Toughbook CF-28 currently only has 256M
of RAM and I am getting insufficient memory errors when
I try to load it.

FireHydrant FH_JWM3.01_c loads and runs OK.

I have a 2G Linux Swap on the 30G HDD

Could it be something other than RAM?
Hi I'm Glad FireHydrant FH_JWM3.01_c loads and runs OK. but ChurchPup is about 3 times bigger, If i was you i would do a full install, Because ChurchPup is larger than your Ram you have installed.And that I would think is your main issue. Well atleast I hope :)
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Minimum RAM for ChurchPup?

#33 Post by PrairieDog »

Hi Doc,
I would recommend 512 megs of ram for good performance but Churchpup has been known to run on 384 megs if a swap partition is available. I'm sure the errors are entirely caused by low ram. Any chance you could squeeze another 128 megs in the Toughbook?

BTW I completed a download of http://www.elmirachristianacademy.com/C ... up_RC1.iso md5sum was good. I used wget -c http://www.elmirachristianacademy.com/C ... up_RC1.iso in a terminal to download it.

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#34 Post by Subito Piano »

384 RAM & 1 GB swap here and it runs fine. Seems it should run on less than that, albeit slowly.

Gimme specs and anything else and i'll be happy to post on the main website.
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#35 Post by edoc »

I did successfully download (wget -c) and burn a good CD (, thanks!

I need to revisit the notebooks forum and write down the compatible RAM and order some.

The CF-28 is technically limited to 512M RAM but like many Panasonic computers many versions were able to recognize more than that - I am hoping that mine is one of them!

Right now it has 256M RAM and 2G swap and for some reason I cannot get ChurchPup to use the Linux Swap.

Just initiated a Full Install from a Frugal install of FireHydrant, had a little trouble with the X setup (probably a CF-28 thing) but did a cold restart and ChurchPup came up beautifully!

Nicely laid-out and real clean. Will report more as I poke around and try to break things! It's a "gift" !?! ;-)
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