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cafluegg

Joined: 04 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Dec 2007, 23:23    Post subject: e-Sword vs BibleDesktop  

I've used both e-Sword and BibleDesktop extensively; in my honest, albeit biased - I say biased opinion, because I've used e-Sword almost since it's inception - opinion, e-Sword cannot be beat. I've tried using gnomesword, bibletime and other various Bible programs, but I have yet to come across a viable, linux equivalent to e-Sword.

e-Sword is not affiliated with the sword project... that I'm aware of. How can they both use the same modules?

The bottom line is continuity. I began using e-Sword while I was still a MS user, I successfully installed it on my UCE machine and now I am doing the same with churchpup. I have successfully installed it. However, I am only able to open it up from the command line. This method gets the job done, but it is rather cumbersome.

Great results on your Old Testament class! Smile
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edoc


Joined: 07 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec 2007, 00:11    Post subject:  

KF6SNJ wrote:

Oh, if anyone is interested, I got an "A" on my Introduction to Old Testament class.


Of course we are interested ... no Bible-slackers on this
Forum! Wink

Seriously, having studied the OT at the master's level and
taught it at the bachelor's level, I appreciate the effort it
takes to earn an "A"!

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cafluegg

Joined: 04 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec 2007, 00:34    Post subject: Success....
Subject description: Finally
 

First of all, I'd like to thank prairiedog for all of his efforts. He was a great source of help in helping me get everything setup properly on my system.

Secondly, I'd like to say that I finally figured out how to start e-Sword without using the terminal. After installation, wine deposited a e-Sword.desktop file in the /root/.local/share/applications/wine/Programs folder. It had then placed a shortcut in my root folder to the "Programs" folder. I simply copied e-Sword.desktop to my desktop and changed the icon to an e-Sword icon.

I'm a very happy man right now. Smile

Thanks again for a great puppy derivative! I'm sure I'll be back with more questions...
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ricstef

Joined: 01 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec 2007, 00:46    Post subject:  ChurchPup
Subject description: downloading ChurchPup with WGET.
 

@KF6SNJ
Congratulations ! Cool

@Caneri,
A slight variation on your instructions for using wget to download ChurchPup might be:

- highlight the (whole) next line,

wget -c http://www.elmirachristianacademy.com/ChurchPup_releases/ChurchPup_RC1.iso

- RIGHT click and select COPY
- click on CONSOLE (on your desktop)
- in the console window CENTER click (this is the PASTE function)
- hit ENTER to execute.

NOTE: This would download to your /root folder by default, so you may want to CD to
/mnt/home/ and create a folder to keep your downloads in, before you execute the wget.

HTH.
Richard.
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edoc


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PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec 2007, 10:26    Post subject: Re: ChurchPup
Subject description: downloading ChurchPup with WGET.
 

ricstef wrote:

NOTE: This would download to your /root folder by default, so you may want to CD to
/mnt/home/ and create a folder to keep your downloads in, before you execute the wget.


To clarify my understanding, and that of others who will read this down the road ...

Does your wget command download to "whatever folder is open"?

So, if one CD's (changes directory) to /mnt/home/ then MD's (make directory)
"my-downloads" then one CD's again, this time one more level down to "my-downloads"
that your wget command would automatically drop whatever it downloads into the
currently open directory /mnt/home/my-downloads?

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Caneri

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec 2007, 11:54    Post subject:  

@edoc,

What I do is open Rox to the folder I would like to save a download to and then right click on an open space inside the folder and select "Window".

Then if you look down you will see "open terminal here".

Then proceed to use the wget -c command for a download and it will go into that folder.

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ricstef

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec 2007, 20:59    Post subject: downloading to a specific directory using wget  

@edoc,

Quote:
Does your wget command download to "whatever folder is open"?


Yes, it downloads to the working directory. When you open your console, enter PWD; this will return /root telling you that is your current or working directory. So, to download to a specific directory (or folder) you simply CD to it before starting the wget command.
In your example:
#cd /mnt/home/my-downloads
#wget -c http://www.elmirachristianacademy.com/ChurchPup_releases/ChurchPup_RC1.iso.

What Caneri said is another very good way of doing the same thing but utilizing a feature of Rox.

HTH,
Richard.
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KF6SNJ

Joined: 19 Jun 2007
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Location: Distressed States of Amerika

PostPosted: Fri 21 Dec 2007, 00:33    Post subject: Re: e-Sword vs BibleDesktop  

cafluegg wrote:


e-Sword is not affiliated with the sword project... that I'm aware of. How can they both use the same modules?



I've used e-sword on a winxp laptop (it finally crashed by spilling water on it, rendering it totally useless---oh well), as well as BibleDesktop, GnomeSword, and BibleTime. I learned quite quickly that they all use many of the same modules. The only thing different is that BibleTime doesn't have direct access to modules such as the Book of Concord, though the others do. Beyond that, I don't know what to say. I would rather not waste system resources to run an emulator when it is not needed.
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edoc


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PostPosted: Fri 21 Dec 2007, 20:35    Post subject:  

Quote:
Anyone upgraded from an older Puppy to ChurchPup?

I'd like to do the upgrade from TEENPup but cannot lose all of my Seamonkey settings,
especially the E-mail folders with archived E-mails, Address Book, Bookmarks, and Passwords.
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Quote:
PrairieDog
I guess that upgrades should be part of this testing phase we're in. I'm downloading teenpup now to attempt an upgrade, But I think some programs may clash.

I'm thinking if you had a working ChurchPup installed and could copy the /root/.mozilla directory from TeenPup to/root of your ChurchPup installation, all emails, bookmarks and cookies should import OK. I'll test a few things and report back to you at the New ChurchPup thread


Thanks PrarieDog!

I wonder if there is any difference between the layout of the .mozilla folders between
TEENPup and ChurchPup?

If not that may be the most elegant solution.

I have been using an external USB HDD to save everything because I knew the
TEENPup load was temporary.

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Caneri

Joined: 04 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Fri 21 Dec 2007, 20:58    Post subject:  

Hi all,

I finally got a good md5sum and have uploaded to

http://www.puppylinux.ca/churchpup/

If anyone needs a fresh download please test my link for me as I can't use anymore local bandwidth for a few days (oh my).

Enjoy and be well.

Eric

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PrairieDog


Joined: 15 Oct 2006
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Location: Wichita Kansas USA

PostPosted: Fri 21 Dec 2007, 22:35    Post subject:  

Hi all,

Thanks for the mirror Eric, And thanks to everyone for the testing, tips, and tricks,and general good will with the project!

Not to mention the fervent prayers.....

Uh...you have all been praying...haven't you?? Wink
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Subito Piano


Joined: 27 May 2007
Posts: 624
Location: UPSTATE New York

PostPosted: Fri 21 Dec 2007, 22:48    Post subject:  

WOW!!! This post has been ACTIVE!!! Very good to see.

Obviously, i have NOT been monitoring this thread -- soooo sorry. I must have not clicked "notify me when a reply is posted."

Regarding the ChurchPup download through the ChurchPup home page - are there lingering problems i need to address, or is all solved? We have a generous allotment of bandwidth available and i want to spare others from using up theirs. Do let me know.

Also, i have been far too busy with school and Christmas and family to attend to the md5 sum. I am hoping there are no problems there.

Regarding e-sword and Bible Desktop, i recall a bit of a cleaner interface with e-sword, since the Strong's references consist not of clicking on numbers added to the text but simply mousing over the numbers -- a nice feature. However, i am concerned about a lightweight program, and i was under the impression the e-sword would be less of a resource hog than Bible Desktop. Am i correct in this? I know the java required for Bible Desktop takes much...i would like to include a LIGHTWEIGHT Bible program in the "lite" version. Y'all's thoughts on this are appreciated....

OK! So i have not dropped off the face of earth! I HOPE to get a Lite version going over break BUT things are piling up on me -- bathroom repair, bedroom "remodelling," 6-10 computers from school to go over -- wait a minute! Aren't we supposed to be celebrating something important this time of year??!?!?! Confused

Oh - YES! KF6SNJ - congrats on the "A!" PrairieDog and LOF (and anyone else) -- lemme know anything i need to tweak regarding the website. Glad to see we made an inroad to DistroWatch...hopefully we'll get front-page billing -- in 90 days or so--!??!?!?! *sigh*
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edoc


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PostPosted: Fri 21 Dec 2007, 23:07    Post subject:  

Just downloaded from the academy site, took awhile but I used wget and it went smoothly.

A friend also downloaded at home using his new fios (verizon fiber optic) connection -
in a fraction of the time - he's spoiled!

Will advise shortly if my download came through cleanly.

Quote:
Direct Link:ChurchPup Alpha (458MB)
[EDIT- MD5 sum is 9af3aa3c1f4ed07129bdfcf7f50c16a8 ]


Yuck. I think I may have shagged an older one. Sad md5sum is wrong too:
9af3aa3c1f4ed07129bdfcf7f50c16a8

Is this the most current site?
http://www.elmirachristianacademy.com/churchpup.html

Is this md5sum correct?
12/8/07: ChurchPup RC1 is released! Click here to download the ISO.
374 MB; MD5 sum = ade5857b1f02a1f28cdc9ece0f2d32f4

Is the size 374 MB correct?

EDIT: Just tried ChurchPup_RC1 and the MD5 sum posted is not a match -- again
1dc2e2b8b4e056b38466dc0f959d620d

I used wget in the FireHydrant Puppy distro.

I have rebooted to clean out the buffers and am going to try wget -c from the console
in case there is something wrong with the gui interface in FireHydrant.

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PrairieDog


Joined: 15 Oct 2006
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Location: Wichita Kansas USA

PostPosted: Sat 22 Dec 2007, 08:31    Post subject:  

edoc wrote:

Is the size 374 MB correct


Hi Doc,

The original iso I have on my computer reads 375 M in Rox. I'll test http://www.elmirachristianacademy.com/churchpup.html myself and report to Subito if there's a problem.

Caneri was needing http://www.puppylinux.ca/churchpup/ tested if you want to try there.

Mark
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Subito Piano


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PostPosted: Sat 22 Dec 2007, 09:00    Post subject:  

OK - let me know! On an earlier post i was told how to get a fresh and hopefully correct md5 from the website. Hmmm....

This was uploaded to the site and then i downloaded and used it (i think that was the order) -- but i really don't know any other way to make sure there was no corruption of data in the transfer...???
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