Equinox Desktop For Puppy

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mjg · #16 Post by **mjg** » Sat 01 Oct 2005, 05:29

Thanks. It's a neat desktop. I like the control panel feature.

Lobster · #17 Post by **Lobster** » Sat 01 Oct 2005, 09:00

Yes I agree it is very nice

Installed OK on my machine

- how does it compare size wise with JWM, fvwm95 (using this) and Icewm. It seems very much simpler in look and feel for Windows users but it's quite a bit larger

Is that right?

#18 Post by MU » Sat 01 Oct 2005, 10:40

Does the control-center work for you?

On my System it does not react to mouseclicks.

Mark

mjg · #19 Post by **mjg** » Sat 01 Oct 2005, 10:42

It's a bigger download isn't it? Maybe that's because of the required files? It works fast for me though.

From the Equinox web site

"Equinox Desktop Environment (shortly EDE) is small desktop environment, built to be simple and fast. It is based on modified FLTK library (called extended FLTK or just eFLTK).

"Compared to other desktop environments, EDE is much faster and smaller in memory space (EDE's window manager use less memory than xterm)."

and from here: http://www.nongnu.org/equinox/about.html

"This will not be a big (big = loading 5 minutes into memory) environment, I doing it just for fun and cause I need a really useable desktop environment. Gnome and KDE are fine, but eat a lot of RAM. Big problem in Linux is that there are so many GUI toolkits. But probably the best toolkit I know is Fast Light Tool Kit (library has about 400kb, load fast, use C++, simple and efective classes)."

It's worth perservering with, I think.

MU: The control panel works for me on double click.

#20 Post by MU » Sat 01 Oct 2005, 11:10

>MU: The control panel works for me on double click.

*lol* stupid me, you are right

I think we should have a closer look, and maybe add it to the Wiki after we found a solution for the menue, so people easily can find and install it using the Dotpup-Downloader.

Mark

bombayrockers · #21 Post by **bombayrockers** » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 22:02

I have comeup with dotpup of equinox 1.0.4 for puppy

Salient features of this new user friendly / newbie friendly version
1. menu for puppy 1.0.5
2. your programs that are missing from the menu can be added to user programs using panel > menu editor
3. unnecessary things such as docs are removed to reduce size
4. this dotpup includes all libs (including libstdc++ & libpng ) so you have to download just one file. few clicks and your ede is ready to go.
5. ecalc scientific calculator
6. efluid <- gui designer for ede

Surprises
1. Those who want to use rox as the icon manager and ede as windowmanager should start ede using
xwin startede
2. Those who want to use ede's own icon manager rather than rox should start ede using
xwin startedefull

IMPORTANT->for this to be possible i had to edit the .xinitrc file located in /root/ . So during installation when asked to overwrite /root/.xintrc click on OK.

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?c ... x1.0.4.pup

Special thanks to klhrevolutionist for providing the precompiled version of 1.0.4. <-- he did all the hard work, i just presented it to you.

#22 Post by MU » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 22:13

wow, good work

#23 Post by MU » Mon 03 Oct 2005, 18:29

You can download it here too, now:

http://noforum.de/dotpups/mixed/equinox1.0.4.pup

(but had no time to take a closer look yet)

Mark

keenerd · #24 Post by **keenerd** » Mon 03 Oct 2005, 21:41

I'm a little dissapointed with Equinox desktop. It looked very promising. A few peeves:

There seems to be zero structural configuration. The only structual options are title bar justification and taskbar/panel autohiding. (Plently of superficial configuration, like colors and pixmaps.) No matter what you do with the desktop, it will always look more or less the same.

The main 'start' menu is laggy. Nearly half a second on my system.

The virtual/multiple desktops are also pretty weak. It takes two clicks to switch desktops. No preview, no keyboard shortcuts, no wheel scrolling.

Then again, I regularly use JWM heaviliy customized. To the point where it looks more like Blackbox than JWM.

gliezl · #25 Post by **gliezl** » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 01:52

which is faster? EDE, Fvwm, or jwm? Based it on your experience guys.

#26 Post by MU » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 02:23

On my system I feel no difference in speed, but it is a celeron 2200 with 700 MB Ram. On slower ones you might feel differences, but they should not be big I think.

Greets, Mark

gliezl · #27 Post by **gliezl** » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 03:59

how about configuration? Which is super friendly? (EDE, Fvwm or jwm)

#28 Post by MU » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 04:10

Ede has a menue-editor, the others not.

But I wrote an JWM-export for my own Menueeditor: http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=1985

The advantageof Fvwm/JWM is this:

Puppy internally uses scripts to update the menues.

This happens if you remaster a CD, and also many Dotpups will add entries to these Menues.

With EDE this is not the case, so if you install Dotpups, you must add them to the menue using the EDE-menue-editor.

The rest is a question of personal preference.
EDE is set up with its control-Panel (Theme, colors), Jwm/Fvwm do it with the tool in the Setup-Menue.

I would suggest just to install it and give it try, then you will see how it reacts on your system, and what is more convenient for you

Mark

Lobster · #29 Post by **Lobster** » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 06:31

The fastest is probably fluxbox (dotpup)
The most reliable is fvwm95 (pupget)
JWM froze on me yesterday (boo) - I am very unforgiving and immediately moved to fvwm95, which has never ever done such a thing. In the past JWM has not been reliable (on my hardware) In the last 2 or 3 Puppys it has been very much more reliable
Equinox looks nice and seems to offer a control panel to do stuff I do not really need to do . . .
Icewm (many themed dotpups - plus the main one which you require) has proved stable and configerable
Speed = reliability - a wm with a speed factor = o (not working) even once does not interest me

fvwm95 when you refresh (restart fvwm95) retains the open on screen programs - JWM (on my computer loses them)
So which is faster.

Using the GTK theme and change desktop I can change sufficient to my needs.

So my listing at the moment in order of preference - not speed based is:

1 KDE (Krazy Puppy) not yet released - but slow
2 fvwm95 - solid (stable)
3 JWM - default
4 Icewm - most fun - solid
5 Fluxbox - fast
6 Equinox - nice enough
7 MU desktop (for future release) - could move up rapidly

mjg · #30 Post by **mjg** » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 11:46

I had trouble setting the background with the new version of Equinox. Has anyone else experienced that?

This maybe should be a new topic, but following from Lobster's post (and I'm unforgiving also), my favorite WMs are:

1) IceWM (True Curves theme): beautiful and functional.
2) Equinox: Familiar.
3) Fluxbox: Fast.

bombayrockers · #31 Post by **bombayrockers** » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 11:10

yes the icon manager does not work properly and that is why i had chosen to stick to rox pinboard as icon manager. i have posted earlier how to start ede with rox as icon manager.

ede is much slower than other window manager but it gives a familiar feel for the winblows refugee. look and feel can be changed using themes.

http://ede.sourceforge.net/page/themes

mjg · #32 Post by **mjg** » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 23:12

I should have realised that my problem setting the background was related to Rox 2.2, as described elsewhere by GuestToo, and not Equinox.

The solution is to right click a desktop icon and set the backdrop.

bombayrockers · #33 Post by **bombayrockers** » Fri 07 Oct 2005, 08:52

Those of who liked the icon manager but till wanted the good features of other wm's suck as icewm can use eiconman as thier icon manager instead of rox in the following manner. equinox needs to be installed for this to work.

1. click on home
2. make visible all the hidden files
3. you will see .xinitrc in it
4. make a copy of it by copying it to .xinitrc-bak
5. open it as text and scroll to the bottom where it says -> rox
6. comment this line and below it put this exec eiconman &
7. save
8. restart x

sling-shot NLI · #34 Post by **sling-shot NLI** » Thu 15 Dec 2005, 09:37

Wondering if someone has compiled one for the 1.0.6 Puppy or will do for 1.0.7 ?

#35 Post by MU » Thu 15 Dec 2005, 10:23

It does not need to be compiled from new.
Those Puppys are binary-compatible.
Mark

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