Fire Hydrant featherweight, Main & Inferno Released

[macadavy]

I'm just downloading Fire Hydrant Puppy Inferno as I write this and will let you know how it runs on my older PIII/512MbRAM.
One question: I note you included Skype. Would you consider replacing it with the more Linux-friendly Gizmo and Jabbin?
Gizmo: http://gizmoproject.com/ Jabbin: http://www.jabbin.com/int/
TIA

[tlchost]

well a simple way of fixing cups is installing http://www.dotpups.de/dotpups/Printing/ ... l-v0.3.pup
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Thanks...that fixed the printer problem

also have you configured ALSA sound wizard? just go to menu/setup/ALSA sound Wizard and that should fix your problem once you run it, you might have to try different ones, usually around 4 to choose from,

I tried them all...no joy. Is there only one application that controls the audio? I checked that the mixer wasn't muted....but I have a foggy recollection that when I tried to get it to work with the regular Puppy3.x, I found another application that controlled the sound...or was it that I had to copy in the HDA-Intel.conf from 2.17.1 ?

It appears that I have a problem with either my media or DVD...can't seem to save anything....

Thanks for the help

[ttuuxxx]

I'm just downloading Fire Hydrant Puppy Inferno as I write this and will let you know how it runs on my older PIII/512MbRAM.
One question: I note you included Skype. Would you consider replacing it with the more Linux-friendly Gizmo and Jabbin?
Gizmo: http://gizmoproject.com/ Jabbin: http://www.jabbin.com/int/
TIA

Well if you could make a pet or pup package of them both and tell me which one you like the most i don't see any reason why not to include them, I would say a high percentage of people like using skype and well if you can connect to other skype users using these 2 systems why not, I'll do my homework and read up on them and get edg-a-mucated. lol (lol seen a redneck in a movie say that once and comes to mind when i think of "educated", also he said "get in my "pick-me-up truck" instead of "pickup truck" lol)
ttuuxxx

[tlchost]

just go to menu/setup/ALSA sound Wizard and that should fix your problem once you run it, you might have to try different ones, usually around 4 to choose from, ttuuxxx

Here's what I did to fix it....

1. Copied in HDA-Intel.conf from a working 2.17.1
not sure if I had to do this - see below
2. From console ran alsamixer
Had to set some levels that were at 0

3. Sound is fine now....but puppy mixer from the desktop doesn't control audio level. How can I bring up the alsa mixer from the desktop instead of the Puppy Mixer.

Thanks in advance

[macadavy]

ttuuxxx: thanks for your prompt response! I guess I'm kinda promoting Gizmo & Jabbin as Skype alternatives for these reasons:
Jabbin can be used to communicate with anyone with a gmail (GoogleMail) account via GoogleTalk - that's a lotta people! Its the only GoogleTalk client that has issued GNU/Linux software; GoogleTalk itself does not support us.
Another alternative to Skype is Gizmo. Unlike Skype it uses the open SIP protocol - which means you can use it to connect with anyone using other SIP compliant software such as Wengophone, Ekiga, Linphone, etc. Skype's proprietary protocol and closed source software means you can only communicate with others using Skype and Skype only. Just to really p*ss me off, Skype offers SkypeIn numbers in just about every country you can imagine, including Oz and Estonia, even - but not Canada - go figure! Personally, I think Skype is mostly Hype!
Fellow puppian muggins (another resident of the marvelous Land of Oz!) has very kindly compiled a dotpup for Jabbin - see this thread: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 094#156094
Gizmo has a Debian package available that should be pretty Puppy-friendly and/or easily converted to a dotpup.
http://www.gizmoproject.com/download.php
They seem to be keeping their GNU/Linux software more up-to-date than Skype, too.
As for ed-u-ma-ka-shun: my grandaddy used to say: "I've known plenty of PhDs that didn't know their a*s from their elbow - no amount of education ever made a fool any wiser!" 'Nuff said!
As always, greetings from the Great White North, eh?

[ttuuxxx]

ttuuxxx:
Fellow puppian muggins (another resident of the marvelous Land of Oz!) has very kindly compiled a dotpup for Jabbin - see this thread: <-------- I also Live in australia

As always, greetings from the Great White North, eh? <--------- I'm a Canadian too, from Ontario near ottawa

I'm married to an Aussie, my daughter is 1/2 Canadian 1/2 Australian so she'll have some location choices when she gets older. anyways i'll add it to my list

Both packages are on gslapt so it sould be easy to install them I just have to figure which F.H distro gets what, They are around 25MB total installed so i don't think they will go in Featherweight.
other than that

[ttuuxxx]

Ok since this was based on fatfree 3.0 here's the link to the release notes for it http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22650
, as sound goes, i don't see anything missing in the release notes and when i tried the puppy sound mixer on Inferno it worked fine.
but I'll keep looking

[geneven]

I'm enjoying Fire Hydrant. I'm running the Abiword version of main.

I've added a few programs. I didn't notice your instructions for Samba, so I just added LinNeighborhood from the Puppy program installation menu -- is there some reason I should choose your link instead? It seems to be working ok.

I have a 2-gig Flash drive. How do I know how many more programs I can add? I'm used to a no-limits situation.

Why are there all those modem dialup programs? Do people still use modems? I had to, a few years back when I was living in Moscow in an apartment building that wasn't wired to run DSL or Broadband, and it was hell.

I went the whole route from modems to CompuServe (with a faster USR modem) to ISDN to DSL to Cable (Roadrunner.). Now I'm running a laptop wirelessly from my Cable setup, when I'm not using my Nokia N800 Linux handheld computer, also wireless.

[geneven]

I found that a quick way to get an idea how much space I have left is to run the "Resize personal storage file" program from the Utility section of the main menu. It tells me how much space I have left.

But other tips would be welcome. It confuses me that with some variants of Puppy I seem to have no problems with space -- Fire Hydrant is one -- and with other variants I am quickly in a space-crisis -- I had trouble with the standard 3.01 release, for example.

So, I do what some people do with doctors -- I go to the one that gives me the best prognosis!

[smooth]

I downloaded Inferno3.0b but an error occurs when I try to load it , something about the kernel. Any ideas?

[ttuuxxx]

I downloaded Inferno3.0b but an error occurs when I try to load it , something about the kernel. Any ideas?

Hi i would check your CD and make sure it isn't scratched, also i would check the MD5 checksum and make sure it matches also B21D604B454648BDF9F2D5EB681BD00D
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Hi i've just made my final release of Fire Hydrant (for the next 2 weeks or so,lol) its call "jwm edition" its basically a cutdown version i made, without removing any utilities what so ever, so cups, and linneighborhood, samba etc still all work and its 111MB. I tweaked the desktop,menu, and CD-drive(LoL) but it runs nice, what i removed i replaced with better applications and yes it has flash. Even Firefox 2.0.10 which came out today. Anyways i'll write an official release tomorrow when i release it.
I'm going to do some testing on it first etc.
ttuuxxx

[macadavy]

Can't hardly wait!

[ttuuxxx]

Can't hardly wait!

Its uploaded and posted take a look http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 839#156839

[tlchost]

Fire Hydrant 3.0b FHmainOoffice3.0b.iso 270MB Open Office (Main edition with Open Office Cut-down) excellent for computers with Pentium II, with 128MB but 256MB recommended
latest Flash, Firefox,Java, Sunbird, Fostwire and a few more!

I really liked this one....until I tried to remaster it....and when the livecd booted, the xvesa would not allow me to set the resolution.

Hope there's a fix for that problem.

[ttuuxxx]

Fire Hydrant 3.0b FHmainOoffice3.0b.iso 270MB Open Office (Main edition with Open Office Cut-down) excellent for computers with Pentium II, with 128MB but 256MB recommended
latest Flash, Firefox,Java, Sunbird, Fostwire and a few more!

I really liked this one....until I tried to remaster it....and when the livecd booted, the xvesa would not allow me to set the resolution.

Hope there's a fix for that problem.

Yes there is a fix for that problem but you won't like it, Its the remastering programs fault, 100% when you use the dougal remaster, it kills vesa, you have to use the puppy remaster script, but that one you have to move just about every folder on the /root to the tmp/root durring the burning or you'll loose icewm themes, all the firefox addons, the pidgin accounts, etc.
okay for the way it sits you need to move the , .purple, mozilla, icewm folder. when it tells you to sort the stufff out.
hope that helps

ttuuxxx

[tlchost]

Yes there is a fix for that problem but you won't like it, Its the remastering programs fault, 100% when you use the dougal remaster, it kills vesa, you have to use the puppy remaster script, but that one you have to move just about every folder on the /root to the tmp/root durring the burning or you'll loose icewm themes, all the firefox addons, the pidgin accounts, etc. okay for the way it sits you need to move the , .purple, mozilla, icewm folder. when it tells you to sort the stufff out.
hope that helps
ttuuxxx

Yep....really a shame...as nice as it is, having to go through all of that to remaster it is a real pain.

Thanks

[Philh]

Whodo mentioned a fix for xvesa with Dougals remaster in a 215 thread.
The file /etc/TZ needs to be made world writeable, and the file /etc/videomode doesn't exist so it needs to be created and also made world writeable.

Though I havent tried it out.

[tlchost]

Whodo mentioned a fix for xvesa with Dougals remaster in a 215 thread.
The file /etc/TZ needs to be made world writeable, and the file /etc/videomode doesn't exist so it needs to be created and also made world writeable.

Though I havent tried it out.

I think there are other "things" that have to be done....and moving stuff in and out of the tmp directory before and after remastering.

[TonshA]

ttuuxxx! I downloaded Inferno last night and i just wanted to give you my intial impression: SUPERB!! It certainly coped with all of the media formats I threw at it, anyway.

I am seriously considering using it to replace my regular Pizzapup 3.01 (so that's pretty high praise indeed)

I'll give a proper evaluation over the weekend. What sort of feedback are you looking for? I'll just try everything out and report on things I think aren't working correctly or are broken otherwise.

One thing I wanted to mention - when I saw that inferno had Inkscape installed, I said "YES!!". That's the thing that made me WANT to download it. imagine my disappointment...Inkscapelite...

Not that I want to knock Inkscapelite (Or OOo Draw for that matter - I know it is there) but Inkscape (full version) is my 'must' application, so any puppy that comes with it 'out of the box' rates very highly for me. I was able to install it on Pizzapup, but I've never managed it since then, even with downloading the gtkmm dependent library. very annoying.

Anyway - don't want to go on too much about that. Had a great little play last night - changed the 'bling' firefox theme for something a bit less 'pimped' (it WAS fun for about half an hour...then the leopard spots started to irritate ), checked out movies & music. Overall - very, very good.

more feedback in a couple of days.

Thanks a billion for this wonderful release.

DaveA