Fire Hydrant featherweight, Main & Inferno Released

[ttuuxxx]

I've been working on featherweight and also that inkscape thing, I have inkscape o.45 working on a Fire Hydrant, It needed a lot of lib files so i'm just going pet package with it, ttuuxxx

[rajeshh]

Hello,
I was on Puppy 3.01, and went to fire hydrant 3.0b because I was trying to get my printer and web cam to work.

Then i went back to Puppy 3.01, and saw that my desktop is somewhat mixed between the 2.

I suddenly saw my Free memory icon drop from 500M+ to less than 30M?

Is this because I now have FIrefox and such?

Is there an easy way to enumerate files by timestamp?

[davec51]

I had the same experience. What is apparently happening is that on boot the computer is picking up the .sfs file from the other version that you have put on your hard drive.
The solution, given to me by the omniscient WhoDo, is to put the .pup_300.sfs file in a subdirectory, say called pup300, and when boot starts on Puppy3.01 type: puppy subdir=pup300. Then when you boot fire hydrant the .sfs file on the CD will be used.

[rajeshh]

Sorry, I meant what do I need to do to go back to Puppy linux for the timebeing? I may not go back to Fire Hydrant for now.

[ttuuxxx]

Sorry, I meant what do I need to do to go back to Puppy linux for the timebeing? I may not go back to Fire Hydrant for now.

I'm sorry to hear that, I have put a few hundred of hours into it, The only mistake i made is that i used "Fatfree" instead of using the full puppy release if you have any other problems with "Fire Hydrant" Please post them.
Future release will be better, I strive for only the Best. ttuuxxx

[rajeshh]

if you have any other problems with "Fire Hydrant" Please post them.
Future release will be better, I strive for only the Best. ttuuxxx

Actually, I didnt mind the release..in fact I liked some of the things you had. Like I said earlier, I was looking for 2 additional things I couldnt seem to get working in puppy:

Webcam to use in a yahoo messenger like app. and then printer support ( I have a Canon S820 photo printer). When I searched on the Puppy wiki, I thought it said that Firehydrant has IM support so I thought I'd give it a try to see if video chat is supported...

On puppy, I tried quite a few things - gyachi, wengophone etc..and gave up. Do you think you can make video IM/chat work in Firehydrant?

TIA

[rajeshh]

if you have any other problems with "Fire Hydrant" Please post them.
Future release will be better, I strive for only the Best. ttuuxxx

Actually, I didnt mind the release..in fact I liked some of the things you had. Like I said earlier, I was looking for 2 additional things I couldnt seem to get working in puppy:

Webcam to use in a yahoo messenger like app. and then printer support ( I have a Canon S820 photo printer). When I searched on the Puppy wiki, I thought it said that Firehydrant has IM support so I thought I'd give it a try to see if video chat is supported...

On puppy, I tried quite a few things - gyachi, wengophone etc..and gave up. Do you think you can make video IM/chat work in Firehydrant?

TIA

[ttuuxxx]

if you have any other problems with "Fire Hydrant" Please post them.
Future release will be better, I strive for only the Best. ttuuxxx

Actually, I didnt mind the release..in fact I liked some of the things you had. Like I said earlier, I was looking for 2 additional things I couldnt seem to get working in puppy:

Webcam to use in a yahoo messenger like app. and then printer support ( I have a Canon S820 photo printer). When I searched on the Puppy wiki, I thought it said that Firehydrant has IM support so I thought I'd give it a try to see if video chat is supported...

On puppy, I tried quite a few things - gyachi, wengophone etc..and gave up. Do you think you can make video IM/chat work in Firehydrant?

TIA

Printing is the easy LINNEIGHBORHOOD or SAMBA download this http://www.puppylinux.ca/pet2/linneighb ... atched.pet
install it and run it, it will ask you if you want to install samba, click yes and 17MB later you have it up and running Smile

If you need CUPS PRINTING and it isn't working for you, download the latest one here a direct link http://www.dotpups.de/dotpups/Printing/ ... l-v0.3.pup
as voice chat goes just tell me a name of one that works with linux, most with sound don't sound well. "breaking up voice," eg http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/py ... yvoice.php
ttuuxxx

[MrToad]

Hi ttuuxxx,

I've really been enjoying playing with Featherweight - thank you! - but I've encountered a small problem and I don't know what to do next. Basically, I clicked on the link you supplied to get the linneighborhood-0.6.5patched.pet, then clicked on the downloaded file to extract and install it - and nothing else happened. I was expecting to be asked if I wanted to install samba (as per your instructions) but this didn't happen. Any idea what I did wrong? If I can get Fire Hydrant Featherweight to print to the Laserjet III printer on my wife's Windows 98 machine, then I've found my distro, so I'd be really grateful for any help. Thanks in advance!

MrToad

[Caneri]

I also see there is a problem...I'll look further on this

EDIT...this is a pet2 package..not for 3.01

try the v3.01 pet

http://www.puppylinux.ca/pet/linneighbo ... atched.pet

ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributio ... atched.pet

[ttuuxxx]

Hi ttuuxxx,

I've really been enjoying playing with Featherweight - thank you! - but I've encountered a small problem and I don't know what to do next. Basically, I clicked on the link you supplied to get the linneighborhood-0.6.5patched.pet, then clicked on the downloaded file to extract and install it - and nothing else happened. I was expecting to be asked if I wanted to install samba (as per your instructions) but this didn't happen. Any idea what I did wrong? If I can get Fire Hydrant Featherweight to print to the Laserjet III printer on my wife's Windows 98 machine, then I've found my distro, so I'd be really grateful for any help. Thanks in advance!

MrToad

Sometimes the pet manager doesn't find files straight away, You might have to run the petget manager and select the "install downloaded package" then locate the files and use it to install it, That should work, any more problems just shout, But I am working on a new featherweight actually 2 of them,lol One based on 2.14R and 1 on puppy 3.01, I'm not sure which one I'll release, actually i've been thinking of maybe the 3.01 retro also. I just basically want 1 really good general purpose "featherweight" lol not 3 of them, But some people have had Kernel problems with plain 3.01 , so I'm thinking 2.14r or 3.01 retro. right now I'm working over the 2.14R but when i install icewm, The pc slows right down, and i have 2 gigs of ddr2 800. Actually I think the retro one probably the best bet for now untill 2.14r gets more mature.
ttuuxxx

PS the printing and Lin will be fine in all future releases. ttuuxxx

[MrToad]

Thanks Eric, for the link to the version 3 dotpet - but I got exactly the same result as before, so I figure I'm missing something - and it's probably something obvious to gurus!

ttuuxxx, I tried what you suggested but the petget package manager wouldn't perform. On finding and selecting the file (which ended in ".pet") and clicking "OK", the window refreshed and the message "Petget: TRY AGAIN, Choose PET package, extension .pet" appeared in the title bar, and below it was "Note: you must choose a file with '.pet' extension". As I had done precisely that, I'm at a loss as to what to do next. I got the same messages if I tried irunning the petget package on either your .pet or Eric's .pet.

Anyway, don't worry too much as I guess I can wait until the next Featherweight appears! But thanks again, both of you, for your help. It's much appreciated.

MrToad

[edoc]

Just tried to load FH-Jwm3.01c on my Panasonic Toughbook CF-28 and the icons were jumbled on the desktop.

I also got the background display error but that is no problem.

Plain vanilla Puppy 3.01 displays fine.

EDIT: There was some sort of conflict with other stuff on my laptop so I wiped the HDD and did a Frugal install of
FH-Jwm3.01c. That solved the icon display problem. I have a new problem but will post that in a new post.

[cthisbear]

ttuuxxx:

I have used Featherweight 3.01C for the last few days and as well gave
a copy to my local computer store owner...as per usual when a version is so good.

Runs great....internet etc on most machines but could not get the
Realtek RTL8111B onboard chip to work on a
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 motherboard.

Tried most everything but it didn't like any files I selected to get it going.
Other computers are fine.

The Gigabytes' Sata2 hard drives and DVD were picked up...no probs.
I didn't use Mount but the first mounter on the top left..Pmount?

The new NVidia Galaxy card ..........ran fine.
Better than the crappy drivers they gave me for XP.
What a joke......can't autodetect their own card....no help on the CD.
Back to class you software tossers.
The few Puppy detractors can whinge and whine...but after installing XP...and all the rubbish to make it secure............clean out the registry,
and all the other BS.....plus back it up...
it's just nice to boot your version up.

Anyway...........Puppy is Merry Christmas everyday.

Regards and thanks.............Chris.

[edoc]

As mentioned in an earlier post I wiped the HDD on my CF-28 laptop, formated the whole thing ext2 and added a 1g Linux Swap, then loaded FH_Jwm3.01c as a Frugal install.

I ran the Grub installer and as usual put it in /dev/hda1 and in the MBR.

One shutdown it asked to save the results and I did, it also asked to load the sfs and I did.

Shut down and rebooted without the CD and received the following error:

Code: Select all

Booting 'Linux (on /dev/hda1)

root (hd0,0)
 Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 8x83
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=normal

Error 15: File not found

[ttuuxxx]

ttuuxxx:

I have used Featherweight 3.01C for the last few days and as well gave
a copy to my local computer store owner...as per usual when a version is so good.

Runs great....internet etc on most machines but could not get the
Realtek RTL8111B onboard chip to work on a
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 motherboard.

Tried most everything but it didn't like any files I selected to get it going.
Other computers are fine.

The Gigabytes' Sata2 hard drives and DVD were picked up...no probs.
I didn't use Mount but the first mounter on the top left..Pmount?

The new NVidia Galaxy card ..........ran fine.
Better than the crappy drivers they gave me for XP.
What a joke......can't autodetect their own card....no help on the CD.
Back to class you software tossers.
The few Puppy detractors can whinge and whine...but after installing XP...and all the rubbish to make it secure............clean out the registry,
and all the other BS.....plus back it up...
it's just nice to boot your version up.

Anyway...........Puppy is Merry Christmas everyday.

Regards and thanks.............Chris.

Hi Chris
Basically you have 2 options about your Realtek onboard,
Option1 compile and install this driver ftp://210.51.181.211/cn/nic/r8168-8.004.00.tar.bz2
Option 2 just buy a $4nic card and use the puppy defaults. Its the same with my system, I just had a few spare cards laying around and thats what i did. Makes life so much easier then downloading drivers and compiling them:)
Glad you like Fire Hydrant, I put a heck of a lot into it and its nice to hear good things :0 Sure it has a few bugs but with all do time i'll get it perfect. More I learn the better it gets:)
Merry Christmas and Happy New Years
ttuuxxx
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

As mentioned in an earlier post I wiped the HDD on my CF-28 laptop, formated the whole thing ext2 and added a 1g Linux Swap, then loaded FH_Jwm3.01c as a Frugal install.

I ran the Grub installer and as usual put it in /dev/hda1 and in the MBR.

One shutdown it asked to save the results and I did, it also asked to load the sfs and I did.

Shut down and rebooted without the CD and received the following error:

Code: Select all

Booting 'Linux (on /dev/hda1)

root (hd0,0)
 Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 8x83
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=normal

Error 15: File not found

hi here's some info on frugal installs

On a frugal install, they are placed inside a single file, the pup_save.2fs file, which itself contains an ext2 filesystem into which the Linux / dir is placed, with its subdirs inside it--the pup_save contains your full Puppy distro, minus the kernel itself (vmlinuz) and the initial ramdisk (initrd.gz). Thus you can conveniently back up everything to for example a USB key, by simply copying /mnt/home/pup_save.2fs plus vmlinuz plus initrd and your grub or linload bootloader marker and config files to the key (plus zdrv_2xx.sfs if you need it).
also read here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=16954
and here
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/FrugalvsFullinstall
the reason why i posted this is that you are the first with a frugal problem when others haven't had one, so basically I'm thinking something might be overlooked?

[edoc]

I have Puppy installed here on three computers and have
tried both Frugal and Full installs.

I found this reference to what appears to be a similar problem here:

http://www.puppylinux.org/user/viewpage.php?page_id=1

mareg on August 07 2007 16:42
I have installed 2.17 and later 2.17.1 on HD. Have 2.16 and DOFUS 2.14 on other partitions. After HD install I got Error 15 while attempting to boot, none of all 3 OS accessible. Have tried also Tmxxine 2.17 and NOP 2.17 and also can not start them, however I can access 2 others at least. Something wrong with installer? (Had no problem with HD install till now - starting from 2.13). [Yes, Barry acknowledged that problem in 2.17.]

Ooops! Just went back and looked for the menu.lst file for GRUB to edit and it wasn't there. Apparently there is
some problem with writing to the HDD during the creation of GRUB.

I had a buddy do most of this install for me because I am trying to get him hooked on Puppy.

Two unrelated items:

1. Good News: FH loaded my GigaFast USB wireless nic without any trouble at all.

2. Any plans for a Fire Hydrant 3.1x-ksi (Out house sink included)?

[ttuuxxx]

I have Puppy installed here on three computers and have
tried both Frugal and Full installs.

I found this reference to what appears to be a similar problem here:

http://www.puppylinux.org/user/viewpage.php?page_id=1

mareg on August 07 2007 16:42
I have installed 2.17 and later 2.17.1 on HD. Have 2.16 and DOFUS 2.14 on other partitions. After HD install I got Error 15 while attempting to boot, none of all 3 OS accessible. Have tried also Tmxxine 2.17 and NOP 2.17 and also can not start them, however I can access 2 others at least. Something wrong with installer? (Had no problem with HD install till now - starting from 2.13). [Yes, Barry acknowledged that problem in 2.17.]

Ooops! Just went back and looked for the menu.lst file for GRUB to edit and it wasn't there. Apparently there is
some problem with writing to the HDD during the creation of GRUB.

I had a buddy do most of this install for me because I am trying to get him hooked on Puppy.

Two unrelated items:

1. Good News: FH loaded my GigaFast USB wireless nic without any trouble at all.

2. Any plans for a Fire Hydrant 3.1x-ksi (Out house sink included)?

Yes I have plans on FH3.1 KSI or "INFERNO" it will be bigger and way better, I have been testing tons of applications daily and making a list and checking it twice,lol yes i have the Christmas spirit And this time of year is really busy and I'm going on a 2 week well deserved vacation with the family and kids. So things might slow down a bit untill the end of the first week of January. Actually the Second week of January Because I have a Networking Management Job For this School which teaches retired People How to use pc's, And no I already tried to swinging the class to Linux and the Coordinator said No-way. Well I tried Basically I have to upgrade 10 pc's memory and hard drives, Build a new server, build a print server, Then add new software, make a ghost cast, and finally set 3 levels of security, ghost cast all students pc's and thats about it. Should be interesting.
ttuuxxx

[edoc]

OK, this is really weird. There is no /boot folder. I re-booted FH with the "puppy pfix=ram" and re-ran Puppy Universal Installer to be sure nothing was locking the HDD so I don't know why PUI failed to create /boot and why GRUB says it installed menu.lst there but did not. (BTW: I can manually create a folder so the HDD is not locked.)

OK re. a vacation then a contract job - have a blessed experience with both!