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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jun 2013, 12:01    Post_subject:  

Makoto wrote:
Why not do what programs like VLC are doing? Provide a set of 'basic' (simplified) options by default... and if someone wants to mess with the settings in more depth, they can switch the options to an 'advanced' selection.

I know I'd prefer the full filesystem choice, over the 'three choice' version (but that's just me).
The new way of thinking (my way Smile ) is that
- Rockridge is always added - no harm
- The new isolevel 4 actually supports large files, so no need of UDF which is in any case bad supported on Linux. Isolevel 4 supports recent windows systems.
- Joliet is only a valid choice for isolevel 3 (win 95/98 ), so after all, this is no option.

With this in mind I don't find any reason for keeping the old options.


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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jun 2013, 12:05    Post_subject:  

disciple wrote:
Would it make sense to change "Others" to something like "really old systems"?
Could be, but is DOS the only system that not fits in the other options? If so, we should mention other OS's as well.


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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jun 2013, 21:40    Post_subject:  

I don't know the details of what requires 8.3 naming - I wouldn't be surprised if even DOS has an extension that doesn't (remember, DOS needs an extension to have any CD support). It is quite possible that there are no Pburn users that require 8.3 naming, so whether you say "DOS" or "Really old systems" or something, I don't think it matters. Just as long as the name won't make people think they might need it in case they want to the disk on a modern Mac, or BSD or Haiku or something.
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jun 2013, 00:00    Post_subject:  

Okay, so I didn't really take into account that some filesystems aren't supported as well (read/write) under Linux. Still... Very Happy

I'd still wonder if there should be something 'simple' in the choices for those who just want to insert a blank disc and burn it, while at the same time, more complex choices for those who want to control every fine detail about the burn. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jun 2013, 05:18    Post_subject:  

disciple wrote:
Just as long as the name won't make people think they might need it in case they want to the disk on a modern Mac, or BSD or Haiku or something.

Is a disc written by pBurn in any cases readable in Mac, BSD or Haiku?

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jun 2013, 06:27    Post_subject:  

I can vouch for mac OS-X snow-leopard, and boot's too.
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jun 2013, 12:46    Post_subject:  

01micko wrote:
I can vouch for mac OS-X snow-leopard, and boot's too.
So HFS is not required for Mac?


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jun 2013, 16:11    Post_subject: Rockridge format for DVD is the best for Mac users  

Rockridge format for DVD is the best for Mac users
but Joliet works as well. Older formats like HFS still work on a Mac DVD drive
probably ?? but I haven't tested on recent Macs.

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jun 2013, 17:07    Post_subject:  

I just booted a macbook air with slacko-5.5 burnt with Pburn from an external CD drive. AFAIK, HFS is the old mac filesystem, currently HFSPLUS is the filesystem on the system disk. (I mounted it ro in slacko, but that is too off topic, Makato, see PM soon).

Previously, we had a vanilla macbook (circa 2009, w/Superdrive) that handled disks burnt with Pburn just fine.

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jun 2013, 17:25    Post_subject:  

Here is next try Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jun 2013, 20:42    Post_subject:  

I think it would be best to avoid slang expressions, for the sake of people with less English Smile Maybe you could say something like this (although I guess translators would then need to find out what term is actually used for "Level 1" in their languages):
Old "Level 1" standard (8.3 naming)

Regarding Macs, from the information I've seen, only pre-OSX Macs should require HFS, and then they may require the -part option as well. But I don't have one to test, and I'm wondering if they even require more work.

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Jun 2013, 02:42    Post_subject:  

disciple wrote:
I think it would be best to avoid slang expressions, for the sake of people with less English Smile Maybe you could say something like this (although I guess translators would then need to find out what term is actually used for "Level 1" in their languages):
Old "Level 1" standard (8.3 naming)
You're right!
Could it be just "Old standard (8.3 naming)"?

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Jun 2013, 06:49    Post_subject:  

Sure, but personally I prefer "very old" or "really old" Wink
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jun 2013, 17:22    Post_subject:  

Here's how the wikki describes it

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The standard has three different levels for files, here paraphrased from section 10:
Level 1: File names are limited to eight characters with a three-character extension, using upper case letters, numbers and underscore only. The maximum depth of directories is eight.
Level 2: File names are not limited to 11 characters (the 8.3 format) but can be up to the maximum allowed by the 1 byte counter in the directory entry and the filename length byte counter. Typically, this is close to 180 characters, depending on how many extended attributes are present.
Level 3: Files are allowed to be non-contiguous (i.e., fragmented), principally to allow packet writing or incremental CD recording.



So I would suggest "Old format -8.3 file naming (not recommended)"
or

"8.3 file naming (not recommended)"


You should discourage people from using that format,
since it radically changes the file names so that
it becomes difficult to recognize the file again.

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jun 2013, 17:31    Post_subject:  

Another 2c
DOS 8.3 naming (deprecated)

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