Tecra/Protege stops booting at Xvesa and Xorg (SOLVED)
Still hopefull....
I had the final crash it looks like on my desktop last night - installing fedora and like what I see so far. Can't even safe boot into Windows.
I'm still hopeful that I can get Puppy onto my laptop. I found these 2 links and will proceed to try them and see what results I get
http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/neomagic.4.html
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=146452
I'll start with x.org since it explicately makes mention of my card (MagicGraph 128XD (NM2160)) and possible configuration considerations.
Here goes nothing!
I'm still hopeful that I can get Puppy onto my laptop. I found these 2 links and will proceed to try them and see what results I get
http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/neomagic.4.html
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=146452
I'll start with x.org since it explicately makes mention of my card (MagicGraph 128XD (NM2160)) and possible configuration considerations.
Here goes nothing!
Well, I think I'm about ready to give up. I think I messed up following the instructions in the one thread, or the changes took place but absolutely nothing has changed.
Thought I might try some other distros/installations using a boot floppy but can't mount my floppy drive on my desktop to create a boot floppy, can't boot into Windows, blahblahblah....
II guess it's time to flatten both my laptop and desktop or throw them both out the window and go buy Macs.
Thought I might try some other distros/installations using a boot floppy but can't mount my floppy drive on my desktop to create a boot floppy, can't boot into Windows, blahblahblah....
II guess it's time to flatten both my laptop and desktop or throw them both out the window and go buy Macs.
Things on my desktop seem to be going ok Do I dare say it
I'm still running Puppy on my desktop. I thought I'd try Fedora using a DVD install but I've been mucking with my laptop all night I haven't been having much luck though
It ends up the floppy on my desktop was/is mounted even though the 'mount' dialog shows it's not and fails when I try to mount it. I found it was mounted only when I was exploring the file structure and saw it listed in the mnt directory. So I should be able to create a boot floppy. I was thinking it might be another way I could try to help install another distribution onto my laptop if I can't get Puppy working.
I'm still running Puppy on my desktop. I thought I'd try Fedora using a DVD install but I've been mucking with my laptop all night I haven't been having much luck though
It ends up the floppy on my desktop was/is mounted even though the 'mount' dialog shows it's not and fails when I try to mount it. I found it was mounted only when I was exploring the file structure and saw it listed in the mnt directory. So I should be able to create a boot floppy. I was thinking it might be another way I could try to help install another distribution onto my laptop if I can't get Puppy working.
NeoMagic Video Chipsets on Linux/X Window System
Found this link specific to NeoMagic chipsets that I'm hoping will help:
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/neomagic.html
Since my problem has now become more specific to video I thought it might be appropriate to start a new thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 839#217839
Thanks guys...you've been great (and given me hope). Can you maybe help me out over on the other thread to get my video working?
Jacqui
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/neomagic.html
Since my problem has now become more specific to video I thought it might be appropriate to start a new thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 839#217839
Thanks guys...you've been great (and given me hope). Can you maybe help me out over on the other thread to get my video working?
Jacqui
I have a Toshiba Portege 3110ct with a Trident Cyber 9525 video chipset. I've seen this particular machine mentioned several times in this thread, but it is unclear if a fix for it made it into any particular version on Puppy. I am coming here fresh off of trying to get DSL to run Xvesa unsuccessfully on this machine. Does anyone have an answer for me, or can I help in any way?
Hello Harryc,
unfortunately I don't think JacquiG ever found a solution to
her graphics problem. Two additional compounding
problems, with getting puppy working on her computer,
were limited RAM, and inability to get puppy to boot
from the default live CD, due to external usb CD.
Just from general forum reading, it seems some have
success getting their trident cyber graphics working,
whereas others,like JacquiG, are unsuccessful.
So how much RAM does your laptop have? And if you
can boot from a CD, that's the simplest thing to try &
see whether Puppy's xorgwizard will work for you or
not.
unfortunately I don't think JacquiG ever found a solution to
her graphics problem. Two additional compounding
problems, with getting puppy working on her computer,
were limited RAM, and inability to get puppy to boot
from the default live CD, due to external usb CD.
Just from general forum reading, it seems some have
success getting their trident cyber graphics working,
whereas others,like JacquiG, are unsuccessful.
So how much RAM does your laptop have? And if you
can boot from a CD, that's the simplest thing to try &
see whether Puppy's xorgwizard will work for you or
not.
harryc,
Puppy 4.00+ should work with it. It will force you to use xorg, which is all that works with that hardware. Be sure you have at least 128MB RAM+swap partition.
It will probably freeze during first bootup, with an instruction to press ctrl-c. Do that and then select xorg. Please report what happens. Thanks.
Richard
Puppy 4.00+ should work with it. It will force you to use xorg, which is all that works with that hardware. Be sure you have at least 128MB RAM+swap partition.
It will probably freeze during first bootup, with an instruction to press ctrl-c. Do that and then select xorg. Please report what happens. Thanks.
Richard
Hi Richard, thanks for the reply, Puppy 4.0 worked exactly as you've described. This has been very challenging hardware to get Linux installed on, and I've finally found a home for it at Puppy. Thank-you!
@muggins, I have 128MB RAM. I cheated a bit on the install. I physically removed my hard drive and installed it in a Thinkpad, then I installed Puppy 4.0, then I put the drive back in the Portege. It came right up after the xorg/resolution selection process.
@muggins, I have 128MB RAM. I cheated a bit on the install. I physically removed my hard drive and installed it in a Thinkpad, then I installed Puppy 4.0, then I put the drive back in the Portege. It came right up after the xorg/resolution selection process.
Last edited by harryc on Fri 05 Sep 2008, 10:38, edited 2 times in total.
Hello
harryc or rerwin , can you take a look at my post?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=33188
(problem with Trident Cyber 9382 video chipset)
harryc or rerwin , can you take a look at my post?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=33188
(problem with Trident Cyber 9382 video chipset)
Hi everybody,
I'll try to relaunch this old thread…
Tried to install puppy 5.3.1 slacko today on my girl's Toshiba satellite 1805 with (wow!) 1GB of RAM.
As I expected it would fail when probing the xserver. As I have a working ubuntu (but: no hardware acceleration, that was broken sometimes around ubuntu 7), I mounted the hdd and copied the (known good, exept hardware acceleration) xorg.conf to puppy's /etc/X11. startx or xwin failed both.
I do attach ubuntu's the xorg.conf here - maybe somebody will find something:
AFAIK the is crucial on that machine.
As this thread has become very long: I coudnt really get clear where the most recent advice can be found. Could someone give me a hint? - NB.: Is it still valid for 5.3.1?
And another thing: ubuntu needed kernel parameters
not to hang during the boot procedure. Looks as if this were not necessary for puppy.
BTW.: Tried puppy on a 160MB RAM PIII today - awesome!!!!
Greetings,
Wolf
I'll try to relaunch this old thread…
Tried to install puppy 5.3.1 slacko today on my girl's Toshiba satellite 1805 with (wow!) 1GB of RAM.
As I expected it would fail when probing the xserver. As I have a working ubuntu (but: no hardware acceleration, that was broken sometimes around ubuntu 7), I mounted the hdd and copied the (known good, exept hardware acceleration) xorg.conf to puppy's /etc/X11. startx or xwin failed both.
I do attach ubuntu's the xorg.conf here - maybe somebody will find something:
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# xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
#
# Custom file by Michael Minn
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "Kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protoxol" "ImPS/2"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Trident Microsystems cyberbladeAi1d"
Driver "trident"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
Option "NoDDC"
EndSection
# Section "Device"
# Identifier "Card0"
# Driver "trident"
# VendorName "Trident Microsystems"
# BoardName "CyberBladeAi1d"
# BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
# EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "ToshLCD"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 30-71
VertRefresh 50-100
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Monitor "ToshLCD"
Device "Trident Microsystems cyberbladeAi1d"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "800x600"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
EndSection
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option "nodcc"
As this thread has become very long: I coudnt really get clear where the most recent advice can be found. Could someone give me a hint? - NB.: Is it still valid for 5.3.1?
And another thing: ubuntu needed kernel parameters
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i915.modeset=0 noapic
BTW.: Tried puppy on a 160MB RAM PIII today - awesome!!!!
Greetings,
Wolf