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Posted: **Wed 23 Jan 2008, 01:19**

sorry, i had posted my bug report in the wrong section. here is a link to it:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=25633

sorry for that. i'm kinda noob to the forum. but i have been with puppy for a while and really like it alot.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan 2008, 01:27**

crabbypup wrote:sorry, i had posted my bug report in the wrong section. here is a link to it:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=25633

sorry for that. i'm kinda noob to the forum. but i have been with puppy for a while and really like it alot.

You actually got responses - seems like that's the better method. I doubt this thread is looked at much since it's become apparent that 3.0x or whatever will never be released.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan 2008, 22:53**

I thought Barry was still going to maintain 3.xx, but was just working on 4.xx for the time being.

Posted: **Thu 24 Jan 2008, 18:08**

Hello,

I have an Averatec 3200 series laptop with an Ralink wireless card (I guess it is 2500). The puppy versions - 2.14 through 2.17 easily recognized the card and showed the network interface as RA0 and I could enter the required details and get connected.

In Puppy version 3.01, the interface is recognized as RA0 and I can enter the details, but there is no connection.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Posted: **Thu 24 Jan 2008, 19:30**

I posted earlier about how it would take as long as 5 minutes for applications to start up in 3.01:

RobertB wrote:I read through the thread, and noticed several references to applications taking a long time to start up. That's the problem I'm having, and it's also noted in this thread under "Beginners Help". In that thread, a new user of Puppy Linux started with 3.01, had troubles, and gave up on it. I'm not giving up, but I'm wondering if I need to go back to 2.17.

I did a full HD install of Puppy 3.01 (from a disk directly from Barry, yay!) on a new (to me) computer, freshly repartitioned (4 data partitions and a 1GB swap) and reformatted. It's a Celeron (don't know what vintage) with some 300MB of RAM. But from the beginning, it's behaved strangely.

My ex-wife got a new Windows box (obviously, I had no say in the matter), so I got the memory from her old box. Replacing the 128MB stick with a 512MB stick appears to have solved the problem with applications starting up slowly.

Great for me, but Puppy's claim to fame is bringing back old equipment, even ones with very little RAM. And the programs ran fine in low memory; it was just starting them up that was a problem.

But as was noted before, 3.01 looks to be something of a lost puppy, with all the current development occurring in the 4.x direction. I won't worry about it any more -- just wanted to post the update for future reference.

Posted: **Fri 25 Jan 2008, 01:48**

It sound like Puppy wasn't loading into ram, or else was but only left a very small amount for using.

Posted: **Sun 27 Jan 2008, 02:41**

I just realized that the HTML composer window is missing from SeaMonkey in 3.01. When I click on the "html" desktop icon a little window pops up saying

Please open Composer from Window menu of currently running Mozilla

but I can't find the composer anywhere in SeaMonkey.

It was there in previous Puppys. What gives?

Posted: **Sun 27 Jan 2008, 09:29**

Flash wrote:I just realized that the HTML composer window is missing from SeaMonkey in 3.01. When I click on the "html" desktop icon a little window pops up saying
Please open Composer from Window menu of currently running Mozilla
but I can't find the composer anywhere in SeaMonkey.

It was there in previous Puppys. What gives?

Which version of Seamonkey? One of them was badly flawed.

I'm using Seamonkey 1.1.7 in Puppy 3.01 and it works fine. See Window>Composer or press Ctrl+4 and it should pop up.

Hope that helps.

Posted: **Sun 27 Jan 2008, 13:14**

WhoDo wrote:
Flash wrote:I just realized that the HTML composer window is missing from SeaMonkey in 3.01. When I click on the "html" desktop icon a little window pops up saying
Please open Composer from Window menu of currently running Mozilla
but I can't find the composer anywhere in SeaMonkey.
Which version of Seamonkey? One of them was badly flawed.

I'm using Seamonkey 1.1.7 in Puppy 3.01 and it works fine. See Window>Composer or press Ctrl+4 and it should pop up.

In SeaMonkey's Help > About it says SeaMonkey 1.1.2. There's no Composer in the drop-down menu under Window, only Navigator, and Ctrl+4 does nothing. Hm, I downloaded Puppy 3.01. /etc/puppyversion says 301. What happened?

Posted: **Sun 27 Jan 2008, 13:30**

Flash wrote:In SeaMonkey's Help > About it says SeaMonkey 1.1.2. There's no Composer in the drop-down menu under Window, only Navigator, and Ctrl+4 does nothing. Hm, I downloaded Puppy 3.01. /etc/puppyversion says 301. What happened?

Yep. That's the flawed version that came with Puppy 3.01 so you'll need to upgrade. It's easy though. Just go to the Seamonkey Project page and download the full installer. It's a one-click GUI install that I've found relatively painless.

Hope that helps, and if BarryK does decide to put out a bug-fix version 3.02, I also hope he includes the Seamonkey update.

Cheers

Posted: **Sun 27 Jan 2008, 13:59**

Thanks.

Posted: **Tue 29 Jan 2008, 03:01**

Ok, I downloaded the latest SeaMonkey and tried it out. It seems to open faster than the version that came with 3.01, and I generally like it, but I didn't save it because of a few problems I'd like to clear up first.

1) How do I install it so that clicking on the desktop "browse" icon starts the new version? I can only start it by typing ./seamonkey in an rxvt window. I guess what I'm asking is, is it possible to replace the old version, and how do I do that?

2) How do I install Flash? Nearly every website I open causes a window to pop up telling me I need to install (the latest version of) Flash. I tried installing the tar.gz download, but it didn't work.

Posted: **Tue 29 Jan 2008, 03:26**

http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Internet/Flash7.pup
and
http://dotpups.de/puppy3/dotpups/Internet/Flash9.pup

They have a menu-entry to choose 7 or 9 (9 might be unstable on some sites, but others require it).

Mark

Posted: **Tue 29 Jan 2008, 11:19**

Flash wrote:1) How do I install it so that clicking on the desktop "browse" icon starts the new version? I can only start it by typing ./seamonkey in an rxvt window. I guess what I'm asking is, is it possible to replace the old version, and how do I do that?

Open /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser file and edit as follows:

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#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/seamonkey/seamonkey "$@"

Seamonkey-1.1.7 is placed in a slightly different location than version 1.1.2 and earlier. Seamonkey-1.1.5/6/7 all update to the same directory now. Earlier versions used to create a separate directory including the version number, which made it hard to upgrade over the top rather than just adding another version.

Hope that helps

PS I've had no problems with Flash 9 and Java in Seamonkey-1.1.7 either.

Posted: **Thu 31 Jan 2008, 02:50**

Xorg Wizard that comes with puppy seems to not finish making the Xorg.conf file and that is why it doesn't have out of the box Multi Monitor support.

What it doesn't do is a detection on the second monitor, it declares it is there in one part but does not attempt to do a scan on the next monitor to generate the information and also it doesnt put a second screen section.

Posted: **Thu 31 Jan 2008, 03:26**

Actually, if I remember right it's the parsing that's the problem. The xorgwizard runs Xorg -configure to generate an xorg.conf file, which Puppy then hacks apart based on what you choose in the wizard. I don't remember for sure, but I think when I ran that by hand and analyzed its output (/root/xorg.conf.new) it did have the extra screen section. I'd check it, but you can't run that command while X is going and I have important stuff running right now so restarting X isn't an option.

Anyways, if I'm right then Puppy puts in the serverlayout section without really looking at it, but only grabs a single monitor section. To fix it would probably be pretty simple. Just have it check the serverlayout section to see if there are multiple screens, then modify it a little to handle extra screens (don't just limit to two either, count the number in serverlayout).

Posted: **Sun 03 Feb 2008, 17:44**

Back to an old issue that doesn't seem to be resolved... after adding memory to my PC, the problem I was having with applications not coming up seemed to go away. But just now, the system froze up (as old boxes sometimes do), requiring a hard shutdown. When I brought Puppy back up, it was back to the bad times -- over a minute for Opera to come up. This time I thought to run Top, and it showed that Opera was never using more than 8.5% of CPU.

But that's enough for me -- I'm going to do a 2.17 frugal install, and see what I can learn about copying files from one installation to another. And I think I'll pay more attention to the suggestion that a frugal install is more flexible than a full HD install, like I've currently got.

Posted: **Sat 09 Feb 2008, 23:41**

I've had probs decompressing pet's, no room left to decompress..
you have xxx blocks left and the pet needs xxxx blocks to decompress install..
There's enough displayed room left, seemingly,
but the ram has reached it's pre-determined safe limit
and Flushing the RAM, pup-save, has it's unionfs limits.

I know there are patches to (fix) that issue, but it doesn't cure it.
What about putting in the real file-size in the pet, as a variable
so the pet, petget manager could check if it could decompress and install ?
.

Posted: **Sat 09 Feb 2008, 23:53**

as written here

I have looked a very strange behaviour with upload. many times, uploading on youtube, connection is lost and i must reboot to have a new working connection and, finally, i must reboot again and turning on windows for upload to youtube

these problems affects all browser i have tried: seamonkey, firefox, opera, elinks, netsurf and dillo. may be a puppy problem?

Posted: **Fri 22 Feb 2008, 03:39**

If anyone is having problems with X hanging on boot and then droping to a command line, try this:

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# Fix X hanging on some boots
/bin/rm /tmp/.X*-lock >> /tmp/xerrs.log 2>&1

it should be added to:
/usr/X11R7/bin/xwin

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[ -z $DISPLAY ] || exit #v2.11 from GuestToo.
echo "This script will run X windows for you..."

# Fix X hanging on some boots
/bin/rm /tmp/.X*-lock >> /tmp/xerrs.log 2>&1

save then reboot.

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