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NOP (Nearly Office Pup) 3.01 final available for download
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Henry

Joined: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 829
Location: Oregon USA

PostPosted: Sat 19 Jan 2008, 14:42    Post subject: More notes, email, etc.
Subject description: "good puppy"
 

I have been using Nop 3.01 r4 since it appeared daily and it is excellent! Please disregard my previously reported problems, most of which were because of the omission of e2fsck in earlier versions and some because of my initialisation oversights in Opera.

One exception. however, remains. Sometimes (infrequently, sorry I can't specify further) when I start Nop the lower left menu does not appear and full amplitude vertical lines keep scrolling through the CPU graph. Restarting (from the upper panel) usually clears this.

About email. This has nothing to do with Nop, but I'll put it here anyway. I extensively tested and used both Sylpheed and the built-in Opera M2 email 9.25 with my huge real world Pop3 email files.

Sylpheed is very likeable, simple and elegant. Very small and fast, conventional folders. But attachment handling is odd/confusing - it shows the paperclip icon for any html, etc. not only "real" attachments.

Opera mail is very different, using virtual folders (filters or views) with all mail in one "received" folder. Well, now that I understand it I really like it. Opera, browser and mail, really takes days, at least, to understand and choose from the hundreds of setup options, but then it's the best even if proprietary.

All my email was from Eudora windows. The best way I found was to import it to Thunderbird 2 windows mbox files and from there to M2 and Sylpheed in Linux cross platform.

Eudora integrates inline GPG. Neither Sylpheed nor Opera does. But I found it's easy to decrypt CLI, and you have no more than one plain text credit card in the computer at a time.

www.henrystrobel.com/linux.htm See new screenshot at bottom.

Henry
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klu9

Joined: 27 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Sat 19 Jan 2008, 19:42    Post subject:  

kattami wrote:
On the other side I too have the glitch that I get less and less memory. Something else I discovered was that when I uninstalled programs with pet package manager or gslapt, then the program files was still in my .2fs file.


If I've understood what you're talking about, then I think both these things are both Puppy issues, not specific to NOP. There are various threads in the forum about them.

Re really getting rid of programs, investigate pet-be-gone.
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Caneri

Joined: 04 Sep 2007
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Location: Canada

PostPosted: Sat 19 Jan 2008, 19:49    Post subject:  

here is pup-be-gone

http://puppylinux.ca/members/pupbegone/

I don't know of pet-be-gone..any help with this so I can post it?

Eric

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kattami

Joined: 17 Jan 2008
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Location: Norway

PostPosted: Sun 20 Jan 2008, 05:48    Post subject:  

Caneri wrote:
here is pup-be-gone

http://puppylinux.ca/members/pupbegone/

I don't know of pet-be-gone..any help with this so I can post it?

Eric


Yeah, it is here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=501227887&t=17035

Well, I am somewhat confused on this because from what Pizzasgood says there, it is only possible to use PetBeGone in a full installation except if remastering after removing programs one want to remove.

But I dont think I have much to remove from Grays NOP-version anyway, so wouldnt it be just as good if I started from scratch again and just added the programs and eventual addons for Xfwm4 and Opera I absolutely want to have and then remaster?

Oh...now I understand why I didnt get some of the themes removed on the list in window manager in the Settings Manager. Because of the above issue. Which means I probably have to look at this since I would like to remove some of the themes. But PetBeGone cant remove themes? It would only be something like Edit-sfs that could remove themes, or am I wrong?
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richhard

Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Posts: 51

PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 22:49    Post subject:  

Hi Gray,
first, I agree with anybody: Puppy NOP with Xfce is absolutly great,
thank you for the good work!!

But: today I had to rearrange my partitions, so I put my Puppy CD
(rev 4) to do it with Gparted.
Shock- Gparted is not here, but some other tool I never saw bevore. Confused

With your rev 1 happy, I can find the proven Gparted again Laughing

What was your reason to replace the excellent Gparted, which I
think many people are used to work with, by an unknown one??
Would it be possible you come back to this point??
Puppy is an excellent and comfortable tool for system maintnance Exclamation
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gray


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Posts: 313
Location: Adelaide - South Australia

PostPosted: Wed 23 Jan 2008, 01:15    Post subject: Gparted  

Richard,

It seems replacing Gparted with QTparted has caused some angst among the NOPites Crying or Very sad . The reason for doing so was to save space, as we already have the QT libraries (needed by Opera). Gparted adds another 1Mb to the iso and QTparted seemed to work OK for me.

I will go back to Gparted and include the latest Pburn for an r5 version though.

Kattami, you need to remove the themes by hand and then remaster - nothing is truly gone until you have remastered. It wont save much space though as the theme files are quite small.
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richhard

Joined: 22 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Jan 2008, 02:08    Post subject:  

Gray,
I understand, 1Mb is painfull, but I can really confirm: Gparted, current
version is a very reliable tool to tweak partitions!

As I read about r5 version, an other question: I started with Puppy 2.17,
and was very impressed: anything worked easy, play DVD included. Very Happy
But since then: no reliable DVD player anymore.
Also with your NOP: I was not really able to use Xine and watch a DVD!

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1180452681&t=25211
excerpt from ttuuxxx
Yes You Can, Man I really hate Gxine, The best way to fix it is to replace it!!!!!

Perhaps he is right, but anyway, it would be nice to come back to 2.17
status with a nice and easy working DVD player. Laughing
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jcoder24


Joined: 06 May 2005
Posts: 601
Location: Barbados

PostPosted: Thu 24 Jan 2008, 09:15    Post subject:  

For r5, how about the ability to mount isos and sfs via double click similar to the standard puppy3?
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Henry

Joined: 29 Jul 2006
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Location: Oregon USA

PostPosted: Mon 28 Jan 2008, 16:23    Post subject: Keyboard shortcuts in Nop
Subject description: how to target text files?
 

I habitually use keyboard shortcuts ("hot keys"), and it's very easy to set these up in Xfce settings/keyboard for executables, but I would like to use them e.g. for files, as to open file.txt in mousepad.

One can easily send a text file to the desktop. But can one activate such items with a hot key? This may be just a basic Linux syntax question, no surprise there, but thanks anyway ;-)
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gray


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Location: Adelaide - South Australia

PostPosted: Mon 04 Feb 2008, 03:55    Post subject: NOP 301r5  

I have uploaded NOP 301 r5 to www.puppylinux.ca/NOP

r5 goes back to using Gparted as promised. QT libraries have been removed and so opera is now the static build. Updated pburn to 0.9.3 and added Hardinfo utility and also xdelta3.

richhard: I am suprised xine does not play DVD for you. It works really well for me - even full screen. Did you use the CD/DVD drive wizard so that the DVD:/ link is activated for xine ?

jcoder24: You can right click on an sfs file and select open with filemount to open up an sfs file (also close it the same way).

Henry: Just set the hotkey to use the command eg mousepad myfile.txt to open that particular file.
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prehistoric


Joined: 23 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Feb 2008, 14:50    Post subject: Great Job!  

Just tested NOP-3.01r5 on two machines. This one's a keeper!
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jcoder24


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PostPosted: Mon 04 Feb 2008, 15:05    Post subject:  

What is the size diff between, opera+qt libs and opera-static? The reason I ask is that by having the qt libs available it is "easier" to install skype, gizmo, and a few other apps that require qt libs.

BTW. I noticed that .zip files are treated like dotpets, is this the case with r5?
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Henry

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Feb 2008, 17:36    Post subject:  

"Just set the hotkey to use the command eg mousepad myfile.txt to open that particular file."

Yes, don't know why I had a problem. Maybe if I muff it (wrong path) it has to be first deleted, not just edited?

Thanks for r5.iso.
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setecio

Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Posts: 326
Location: UK

PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2008, 06:32    Post subject:  

PUP_301.SFS ZDRV_301.SFS INITRD.GZ VMLINUZ

For r5, is it still only the pup_301.sfs file that needs up dated from previous versions ?

In simple terms, how does the change from opera+qt libs to opera-static affect the end user ?

Thanks.
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Henry

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2008, 09:14    Post subject:  

Setecio: "For r5, is it still only the pup_301.sfs file that needs up dated from previous versions ?"

I had the same question, and to be safe, mounted the CD to copy both files to the hard disk, since it doesn't seem to offer to do that with pfix=ram.

I like this puppy more all the time.
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