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tempestuous · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5032 Location: Australia

Gnomad2 is a gui for managing music files on the Creative Nomad/MuVo/Jukebox/Zen range of MP3 players, plus the Dell Digital Jukebox. These devices use Creative's custom communication protocol called "PDE" (Portable Digital Entertainment). This protocol is accessible via the libnjb library included in the Gnomad2 package.

Additionally, "MTP" (Media Transfer Protocol)-based devices are also supported, with the included libmtp library. Examples of such devices are by iRiver, SanDisk, Cowon, Nokia, SonyEricsson/Sony Walkman.
MTP is part of the "Windows Media" framework and thus closely related to Windows Media Player.

Let me be clear: both of these custom communication protocols, PDE and MTP, are not accessible to Linux without dedicated applications such as Gnomad2.
On the other hand, if you have a "conventional" digital audio player which is seen as a standard USB mass storage device, you require no special application at all. Just connect the device to Puppy via USB, mount the device as a normal external drive, and transfer your music files using the ROX file browser.

The iPod is a whole different story. For that you need gtkpod -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59183
http://www.gtkpod.org/wiki/Home

The iRiver range of MP3 players includes some models which are UMS mode (standard USB mass storage), some which are MTP, and recent models which are dual-mode.
Some of the early models can undergo a firmware upgrade which will change their mode -
www.iriver.com > SUPPORT > Download
but apparently the Clix 2GB ang 4GB models are fixed in MTP mode.

UPDATE Jan 16 2013
I have just repackaged gnomad2 with the latest libmtp libraries, compiled under Slacko 5.4 -
gnomad2-2.9.6-libmtp-1.1.5.pet
This might be OK to use with Puppy versions other than Slacko, but if you do have problems with older Puppies, I have left two older gnomad2 versions here as well.

The Gnomad2 homepage is here - http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/

trapster · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 1976 Location: Maine, USA

I have only gotten gnomad to work in 109CE and never could get it to work in my current 216 frugal install.
When I want to use it, I always have to reboot into 109.

When I saw this I gave it a try and got this message:

tempestuous · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5032 Location: Australia

UPDATE:
For Gnomad2 to work in the Puppy 2.x series (and avoid a lockup) it appears that libusb must be upgraded to version 0.1.12, now attached.

Gnomad2-2.9.4 should work OK in Puppy 3.x/4.x without any additional libraries.

Gnomad2-2.9.6 should work fine in Puppy Lucid 5.x

tempestuous · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5032 Location: Australia

UPDATE:
Puppy 2.x might (?) also require these updated USB/nomad hotplug utilities.
The USB hotplug files are from Vector Linux, originally from http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/
The nomad hotplug configuration files are from the libnjb source code http://libnjb.sourceforge.net/

tempestuous · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5032 Location: Australia

Puppy 2.x might (?) also require the lsusb utility.

trapster · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 1976 Location: Maine, USA

Success!!!

I tried each .pet and restarted gnomad each time. No luck after all 3 .pets.
I decided to reboot to see what happened and lo and behold, I have a list of songs from my player in gnomad2!!!!!

Thanks tempestuous!!!!

Maybe I should have rebooted after each .pet, but I hate rebooting:)

tempestuous · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5032 Location: Australia

That's good, but we don't know which packages were truly required, and which were not.
If someone could establish this in the future, please report.
The fact that trapster needed to reboot suggests to me that the hotplug files may have been the most important.

Spanky · Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 33

I'm using Puppy 3.01 and only had to install Gnomad2 to get things working. I even have that "Play for Sure" junk loaded into the firmware of my Creative Zen Micro.

mikemason · Joined: 24 Aug 2008 Posts: 36

Just wanted to add a note that gnomad2-2.9.2.pet works for my Creative Zen 1.01.03 out of the box Smile

[thanks

]

If you have a Zen it should work for you too [Dingo 400]

PS... when I bought this zen I was thinking forward [2002]... & I knew I wanted to go linux so I wanted an Open mp3 Player & Creative was it [PC Mag]

This is only my thoghts.... other player s may have been Hacked... but I think Creative may have wanted to be Open for the start.

Thanks again to "gnomad2-2.9.2.pet" for the work, Mike

brymway · Joined: 08 Dec 2007 Posts: 410

I have a Sansa Fuze. I'm working on getting it to work. I must be an idiot. I can't hardly see what nomad does. I'm a little dense. Anyone get a Sansa working?

tempestuous · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5032 Location: Australia

April 2009
Gnomad2 updated to latest ver 2.9.4
See first post.

DaveS · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3726 Location: UK

Works nicely on 4.2, except that it does not put a little icon in the menu. Little known feature of Gnomad is that it allows you to build a playlist directly on your mounted MP3 player. Works well with later Sony Walkman and Samsung players.

tempestuous · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5032 Location: Australia

firak · Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 172

works -otut of the box - for a creative zen tuoch - player.
installed on puppy 4.1 on eepc701.
thanks tempestuos!

tempestuous · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5032 Location: Australia

UPDATED to version 2.9.6, July 11, 2011.
This version was compiled specifically for the Puppy Lucid 5.x series. In particular this involves udev rules which will not be compatible with earlier Puppies.

I have left the older 2.9.4 version attached as well, which was compiled and tested in Puppy 4.x.