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[tempestuous]

Gnomad2 is a gui for managing music files on the Creative Nomad/MuVo/Jukebox/Zen range of MP3 players, plus the Dell Digital Jukebox. These devices use Creative's custom communication protocol called "PDE" (Portable Digital Entertainment). This protocol is accessible via the libnjb library included in the Gnomad2 package.

Additionally, "MTP" (Media Transfer Protocol)-based devices are also supported, with the included libmtp library. Examples of such devices are by iRiver, SanDisk, Cowon, Nokia, SonyEricsson/Sony Walkman.
MTP is part of the "Windows Media" framework and thus closely related to Windows Media Player.

UPDATE 2014
This application remains useful for the old Creative devices, but modern MTP devices, especially Android smartphones, are now better supported by the go-mtpfs utility, in combination with various GUIs. Refer here -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91442

Let me be clear: both of these custom communication protocols, PDE and MTP, are not accessible to Linux without dedicated applications such as Gnomad2.
On the other hand, if you have a "conventional" digital audio player which is seen as a standard USB mass storage device, you require no special application at all. Just connect the device to Puppy via USB, mount the device as a normal external drive, and transfer your music files using the ROX file browser.

The iPod is a whole different story. For that you need gtkpod -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59183
http://www.gtkpod.org/wiki/Home

The iRiver range of MP3 players includes some models which are UMS mode (standard USB mass storage), some which are MTP, and recent models which are dual-mode.
Some of the early models can undergo a firmware upgrade which will change their mode -
www.iriver.com > SUPPORT > Download
but apparently the Clix 2GB ang 4GB models are fixed in MTP mode.

UPDATE Jan 01 2014
I have just repackaged gnomad2 with the latest v1.1.6 libmtp libraries, available here -
http://minipc.org/ipup/download/gnomad2-2.9.6-libmtp-1.1.6.pet

This should add support for recent MTP-compatible mobile phones such as Nokia's, and even Android-based Samsung phones.
This dotpet package was compiled under Puppy Lucid 5.2, and should work with more recent Puppies as well.

For the 2.x/3.x/4.x series Puppies, this package probably won't work, so the older Gnomad2-2.9.4 version remains available -
http://minipc.org/ipup/download/gnomad2-2.9.4.pet
This was compiled back in 2007, so don't expect it to work with modern devices.

The Gnomad2 homepage is here - http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/

[trapster]

I have only gotten gnomad to work in 109CE and never could get it to work in my current 216 frugal install.
When I want to use it, I always have to reboot into 109.

When I saw this I gave it a try and got this message:

[tempestuous]

UPDATE:
For Gnomad2 to work in the Puppy 2.x series (and avoid a lockup) it appears that libusb must be upgraded to version 0.1.12, now attached.

Gnomad2-2.9.4 should work OK in Puppy 3.x/4.x without any additional libraries.

Gnomad2-2.9.6 should work fine in Puppy Lucid 5.x

[tempestuous]

UPDATE:
Puppy 2.x might (?) also require these updated USB/nomad hotplug utilities.
The USB hotplug files are from Vector Linux, originally from http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/
The nomad hotplug configuration files are from the libnjb source code http://libnjb.sourceforge.net/

[tempestuous]

Puppy 2.x might (?) also require the lsusb utility.

[trapster]

Success!!!

I tried each .pet and restarted gnomad each time. No luck after all 3 .pets.
I decided to reboot to see what happened and lo and behold, I have a list of songs from my player in gnomad2!!!!!

Thanks tempestuous!!!!

Maybe I should have rebooted after each .pet, but I hate rebooting:)

[tempestuous]

That's good, but we don't know which packages were truly required, and which were not.
If someone could establish this in the future, please report.
The fact that trapster needed to reboot suggests to me that the hotplug files may have been the most important.

[Spanky]

I'm using Puppy 3.01 and only had to install Gnomad2 to get things working. I even have that "Play for Sure" junk loaded into the firmware of my Creative Zen Micro.

[mikemason]

Just wanted to add a note that gnomad2-2.9.2.pet works for my Creative Zen 1.01.03 out of the box [thanks ]

If you have a Zen it should work for you too [Dingo 400]

PS... when I bought this zen I was thinking forward [2002]... & I knew I wanted to go linux so I wanted an Open mp3 Player & Creative was it [PC Mag]

This is only my thoghts.... other player s may have been Hacked... but I think Creative may have wanted to be Open for the start.

Thanks again to "gnomad2-2.9.2.pet" for the work, Mike

[brymway]

I have a Sansa Fuze. I'm working on getting it to work. I must be an idiot. I can't hardly see what nomad does. I'm a little dense. Anyone get a Sansa working?

[tempestuous]

April 2009
Gnomad2 updated to latest ver 2.9.4
See first post.

[DaveS]

Works nicely on 4.2, except that it does not put a little icon in the menu. Little known feature of Gnomad is that it allows you to build a playlist directly on your mounted MP3 player. Works well with later Sony Walkman and Samsung players.

[tempestuous]

[firak]

works -otut of the box - for a creative zen tuoch - player.
installed on puppy 4.1 on eepc701.
thanks tempestuos!

[tempestuous]

UPDATED to version 2.9.6, July 11, 2011.
This version was compiled specifically for the Puppy Lucid 5.x series. In particular this involves udev rules which will not be compatible with earlier Puppies.

I have left the older 2.9.4 version attached as well, which was compiled and tested in Puppy 4.x.