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[tempestuous]

Gnomad2 is a gui for managing music files on the Creative NOMAD and Zen range of MP3 players, plus the Dell Digital Jukebox. These devices use Creative's custom communication protocol named "PDE" (Portable Digital Entertainment).

And because this version of Gnomad2 was compiled with the optional libmtp library, it will also support most "MTP" (Media Transfer Protocol) devices.
MTP is part of the "Windows Media" framework and thus closely related to Windows Media Player. MTP devices can only connect to Linux systems via the libmtp library.

UPDATED to version 2.9.4, April 2009.
This version was compiled specifically for the Puppy4.x series. It includes the libusb library plus updated libid3tag library, and should require nothing more.

Gnomad homepage is http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/

UPDATE: MP3 players which have no special communication protocol, and are known as "Mass Storage Devices", will not be recognised by Gnomad2. For these devices, just mount them as any standard form of USB device, and transfer MP3 files with ROX.

The iRiver range of MP3 players includes some models which are UMS mode (standard USB mass storage), some which are MTP, and recent models which are dual-mode.
Some of the early models can undergo a firmware upgrade which will change their mode -
www.iriver.com > SUPPORT > Download
but apparently the Clix 2GB ang 4GB models are fixed in MTP mode.
Update: iRiver Clix is tested and working with Gnomad2.

The ipod is a whole different story. For that you need gtkpod -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41028
http://www.gtkpod.org/about.html

[trapster]

I have only gotten gnomad to work in 109CE and never could get it to work in my current 216 frugal install.
When I want to use it, I always have to reboot into 109.

When I saw this I gave it a try and got this message:

[tempestuous]

Mmmm, nothing's easy.
The quickest thing to do is run "lsmod" after plugging in your Zen Micro to see if any extra modules are loaded, a prime suspect would be "usb-storage".
Unload any such modules before launching Gnomad2, eg -

[tempestuous]

2. USB/nomad hotplug utilities.
The USB hotplug files are from Vector Linux, originally from http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/
The nomad hotplug configuration files are from the libnjb http://libnjb.sourceforge.net/

EDIT Sep 30 2007
Device ID's in this packag updated to include several additional Nomad/Zen models.

[tempestuous]

3. lsusb - Gnomad might (?) require this.

[trapster]

Success!!!

I tried each .pet and restarted gnomad each time. No luck after all 3 .pets.
I decided to reboot to see what happened and lo and behold, I have a list of songs from my player in gnomad2!!!!!

Thanks tempestuous!!!!

Maybe I should have rebooted after each .pet, but I hate rebooting:)

[tempestuous]

That's good, but we don't know which packages were truly required, and which were not.
If someone could establish this in the future, please report.
The fact that trapster needed to reboot suggests to me that the hotplug files may have been the most important.

[Spanky]

I'm using Puppy 3.01 and only had to install Gnomad2 to get things working. I even have that "Play for Sure" junk loaded into the firmware of my Creative Zen Micro.

[mikemason]

Just wanted to add a note that gnomad2-2.9.2.pet works for my Creative Zen 1.01.03 out of the box [thanks ]

If you have a Zen it should work for you too [Dingo 400]

PS... when I bought this zen I was thinking forward [2002]... & I knew I wanted to go linux so I wanted an Open mp3 Player & Creative was it [PC Mag]

This is only my thoghts.... other player s may have been Hacked... but I think Creative may have wanted to be Open for the start.

Thanks again to "gnomad2-2.9.2.pet" for the work, Mike

[brymway]

I have a Sansa Fuze. I'm working on getting it to work. I must be an idiot. I can't hardly see what nomad does. I'm a little dense. Anyone get a Sansa working?

[tempestuous]

April 2009
Gnomad2 updated to latest ver 2.9.4
See first post.

[DaveS]

Works nicely on 4.2, except that it does not put a little icon in the menu. Little known feature of Gnomad is that it allows you to build a playlist directly on your mounted MP3 player. Works well with later Sony Walkman and Samsung players.

[tempestuous]