WHICH Puppy derivatives?
Well. Cool. I've changed kernels to get the SD card slot reader working. Touchscreen still works.
This is not a biggie per se. I can fly on a Ubuntu or Debian or Arch minimal install and go from there. I am not hip on building up from a minimal Puppy install though.
I am usually install and tweak and go on Puppy with just minor tweaks at that.
This is the AntiX one I have dialed in pretty good.
http://imgur.com/CWY6JBQ
I have a feeling though that touchscreen>32 bit> and Puppy Linux might not be in the cards for me. Carolina Vangaurd looks promising. But ram usage on these I try and keep
at a minimum. So Fluxbox or JWM would be my druthers. E17 would be a option also and I am comfy in Icewm also.
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I am usually install and tweak and go on Puppy with just minor tweaks at that.
This is the AntiX one I have dialed in pretty good.
http://imgur.com/CWY6JBQ
I have a feeling though that touchscreen>32 bit> and Puppy Linux might not be in the cards for me. Carolina Vangaurd looks promising. But ram usage on these I try and keep
at a minimum. So Fluxbox or JWM would be my druthers. E17 would be a option also and I am comfy in Icewm also.
No need to. I can download and run off SD card if I wish with a save while doing the unetbootin shuffle. Install grub4dos and blow away unnetbootin syslinux boot loaderstarhawk wrote:Hey, I've been thinking of seeing how Vanguard would run on my netbook... since the specs are dang similar, would it help you any if I did so and reported results?
on mbr of the SD card and I am off to the races.
Just bored while this cold front here blows through. So the shop is slow today.
I got a feeling I'll need a new kernel although the touch screen on this rig is not the latest or greatest. Being a 2009 machine and all.
I will see what I will see I guess. If Vangaurd works OK for me. I'll be sure and post about it.
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How Do I Know Which Puppy to Adopt?
There are so many now! I'm sure they're all great, but for a newbie it's hard to know which Puppy I should try first. It would be awesome if someone wrote a little blog post or sticky post on Which Puppy to Adopt.
I have a really old Dell Dimension with 512 RAM and some kinda Celeron processor I don't know how fast. It's older than me, a hand-me-down from my parents when they got their new computer. It used to run Windows XP but I have LXLE on it now which is pretty fast. I even got my parents to dual-boot it because they love LXLE too!
But I tried Puppy for the first time today and it's like, Whoa, warp speed! Really cool. I chose Tahr 6.0.2 CE because it's based on Ubuntu so I thought it would be somewhat familiar. I wanted something I can show at the computer club at school that would be portable and fast. But there are so many other choices that I bet are just as awesome.
Maybe it could be categorized by:
I have a really old Dell Dimension with 512 RAM and some kinda Celeron processor I don't know how fast. It's older than me, a hand-me-down from my parents when they got their new computer. It used to run Windows XP but I have LXLE on it now which is pretty fast. I even got my parents to dual-boot it because they love LXLE too!
But I tried Puppy for the first time today and it's like, Whoa, warp speed! Really cool. I chose Tahr 6.0.2 CE because it's based on Ubuntu so I thought it would be somewhat familiar. I wanted something I can show at the computer club at school that would be portable and fast. But there are so many other choices that I bet are just as awesome.
Maybe it could be categorized by:
- hardware requirements / compatibility
what they are built from Slackware, Ubuntu, Debian, whatever
default applications (Libreoffice or Abiword, etc., or Firefox or Seamonkey or whatever)
Availability and size of repositories
whatever other categories
Tahr 6.0.2 CE is the right choice, for your DELL.
Tahr 6.0.2 CE is the right choice, for your DELL, Sweet Baby Jamie .
Perhaps big enough for 512MB RAM...
Perhaps big enough for 512MB RAM...
@ jamie
I have mirrored ALL the puppies I could find, most major distributions I have also mirrored the repository where I could
the repositories are not as complete as I would like but there is a lot there
go here: http://archive.org/details/puppylinux and you will find over 3500 pups and other goodies too
on the right of the page you will see a search box, type in slackware, debian etc and you will get some options, this is just a keyword search and required me to add that to the puppy page, I'm sure I have missed some though
I used to run slacko 5.3.3 on everything I had as it worked on everything I put it on and really well, my current go to is tahr (64), they will all have a slightly different personality so play with a few
if you have the recommended 'frugal' install you can dual boot in seconds
create a suitable folder, click on the downloaded ISO to expand it, copy all the files into the new folder, click the ISO file again to unmount it, run grub4dos and you're done
add more puppies and play!!
I have used puppy exclusively for around 8yrs now and probably boot windows twice a year and do not miss it, there are much prettier linux installs but nothing so simple and FAST as puppy
enjoy dude!!
I have mirrored ALL the puppies I could find, most major distributions I have also mirrored the repository where I could
the repositories are not as complete as I would like but there is a lot there
go here: http://archive.org/details/puppylinux and you will find over 3500 pups and other goodies too
on the right of the page you will see a search box, type in slackware, debian etc and you will get some options, this is just a keyword search and required me to add that to the puppy page, I'm sure I have missed some though
I used to run slacko 5.3.3 on everything I had as it worked on everything I put it on and really well, my current go to is tahr (64), they will all have a slightly different personality so play with a few
if you have the recommended 'frugal' install you can dual boot in seconds
create a suitable folder, click on the downloaded ISO to expand it, copy all the files into the new folder, click the ISO file again to unmount it, run grub4dos and you're done
add more puppies and play!!
I have used puppy exclusively for around 8yrs now and probably boot windows twice a year and do not miss it, there are much prettier linux installs but nothing so simple and FAST as puppy
enjoy dude!!
@Sweet Baby Jamie.
If only all computers were the same - but, they are not. Even the model dropped directly off the assembly line may contain a different chipset from the previous batch. This continues with sub-assemblies; video, sound, Internet, etc ; and you are working with a very different beast from the previous incarnation of only a few weeks ago. Add any extras - such as specialist video cards, more sound systems - anything, then it becomes very hard to quantify what will work for one computer system, then say it will work for another.
Welcome to that very quirky little number. Mike Walsh and myself have the Dell 1100 - "the Dell from Hell!" It has some very anachronistic (lack of) capabilities!There are so many now! I'm sure they're all great, but for a newbie it's hard to know which Puppy I should try first........
......I have a really old Dell Dimension with 512 RAM and some kinda Celeron processor.
If only all computers were the same - but, they are not. Even the model dropped directly off the assembly line may contain a different chipset from the previous batch. This continues with sub-assemblies; video, sound, Internet, etc ; and you are working with a very different beast from the previous incarnation of only a few weeks ago. Add any extras - such as specialist video cards, more sound systems - anything, then it becomes very hard to quantify what will work for one computer system, then say it will work for another.
slacko 5.3.3
I list 380 Puppies from the forum, but yesterday in sourceforge.net, i saw a lot of puppies unknown here.
Newbies, first, choose official ones, and small as Thin slacko 5.3.3, Racy 5.3, or Puppy 4.3.1
You shall test bigger in a second step...
3500 "you will find over 3500 pups and other goodies too "
Newbies, first, choose official ones, and small as Thin slacko 5.3.3, Racy 5.3, or Puppy 4.3.1
You shall test bigger in a second step...
3500 "you will find over 3500 pups and other goodies too "
'discontinued', what does that mean ?
it's just like songs. Singers create new songs, but people like to listen old ones. My juke box now has 160 puppies active.
Valiant Puppy, Xfce, never has been replaced, and is still the best, in spite of Jejy69 stop to be a singer. ISOs are available for download, and users would help if any trouble. 'discontinued', what does that mean, if people keep it active ?
Barry Kauler retired from Puppy Linux, and puppy is still alive.
Valiant Puppy, Xfce, never has been replaced, and is still the best, in spite of Jejy69 stop to be a singer. ISOs are available for download, and users would help if any trouble. 'discontinued', what does that mean, if people keep it active ?
Barry Kauler retired from Puppy Linux, and puppy is still alive.
WHICH Puppy derivatives
I have narrowed my favorites down to two, because they both recognize my home wifi (using Jasper) from a variety of different laptop and netbook wifi cards, and use lightweight browsers "out of the box":
LxPup Tahr-15.12.1-pae (LXDE, pale moon web browser)
xslacko-slim-082816 (stripped down XFCE, VERY lightweight, yet still surprisingly functional; Midori web browser)
LxPup Tahr-15.12.1-pae (LXDE, pale moon web browser)
xslacko-slim-082816 (stripped down XFCE, VERY lightweight, yet still surprisingly functional; Midori web browser)
Which puppy uses this kernel: mt7601u_huge_slacko_PAE-k4.1.11.pet
I am tired of having to change it everytime I install puppy, or is there a way to change kernel inside the iso?
I am using tahr-6.0.5_noPAE and only this kernel supports the driver [mt7601u_slacko630-k4.1.11-x86_64.pet] needed for the wifi dongle.
Or any other puppy with mainstream kernels, like k4.9.x as explained here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=106484
I am tired of having to change it everytime I install puppy, or is there a way to change kernel inside the iso?
I am using tahr-6.0.5_noPAE and only this kernel supports the driver [mt7601u_slacko630-k4.1.11-x86_64.pet] needed for the wifi dongle.
Or any other puppy with mainstream kernels, like k4.9.x as explained here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=106484
That's confusing. I think you mean "Which Puppy uses this driver package"?jss83 wrote:Which puppy uses this kernel: mt7601u_huge_slacko_PAE-k4.1.11.pet
The huge_slacko_PAE-k4.1.11 kernel was an optional kernel built by 01micko for people who wanted to upgrade their Slacko kernel. No Puppy has it OOTB. If you want to use that driver PET, you must do a kernel change.
I don't know what "it" means. Are you saying that you are familiar with the kernel-change procedure?I am tired of having to change it everytime I install puppy, or is there a way to change kernel inside the iso?
Again confusing. You have a 32bit noPAE Puppy but are referring to a 64bit driver PET.I am using tahr-6.0.5_noPAE and only this kernel supports the driver [mt7601u_slacko630-k4.1.11-x86_64.pet] needed for the wifi dongle.
I want to use a puppy where I don't have to change the kernel right after I install it coz without changing it, no driver works and the wifi don't work.
Yes I can change the kernel with change_kernels in the terminal but .. I would prefer a puppy that has the driver already. Or.. maybe there's a way to add this kernel to the tahrpup iso, I don't know about that.
I copy pasted the wrong driver there.. sorry about that. I am using tahr-6.0.5_noPAE and I use change_kernels-1.0.pet to change the kernel to this kernel-modules.sfs-4.1.11-slacko_PAE and then I add this driver to use the wifi mt7601u_slacko630-k4.1.11.pet. Am I doing everything wrong?
Yes I can change the kernel with change_kernels in the terminal but .. I would prefer a puppy that has the driver already. Or.. maybe there's a way to add this kernel to the tahrpup iso, I don't know about that.
I copy pasted the wrong driver there.. sorry about that. I am using tahr-6.0.5_noPAE and I use change_kernels-1.0.pet to change the kernel to this kernel-modules.sfs-4.1.11-slacko_PAE and then I add this driver to use the wifi mt7601u_slacko630-k4.1.11.pet. Am I doing everything wrong?
No. You are using the correct procedure with this adapter and its driver.jss83 wrote:Am I doing everything wrong?
At the moment, I don't believe that ANY Puppy supports this device OOTB.I would prefer a puppy that has the driver already.
You could change to the 4.9.13 xenial kernel that has the driver built-in. Then do a remaster of the ISO to contain the new kernel files.Or.. maybe there's a way to add this kernel to the tahrpup iso, I don't know about that.
The program ISOMaster in the Multimedia menu does this. If you have trouble, ask for help in the Users section.jss83 wrote:I like the last part, not sure I know how to though, I tried to built a remastered cd long time back but I don't think I succeeded but I'll try again.
You will need to test it yourself to be sure. It is a big jump in kernels from your Tahrpup 605.This one would work right huge-4.9.13-xenial_noPAE.tar.bz2