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TabletPC Digitizer Pen - how to make it work with Puppy?
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HitRSS

Joined: 06 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep 2005, 06:16    Post subject:  TabletPC Digitizer Pen - how to make it work with Puppy?  

Hi there!

Just installed the Chubby Puppy on my TabletPC Toshiba M200's NTFS partition using the instructions from this forum and my 1400x1050 screen is being supported perfectly!

I'm only missing the Pen Digitizer to work with Puppy.

I found some websites on Toshiba and Linux that provide some info on how to get the Digitizer to work:

http://www.adebenham.com/laptop/toshiba_m200.html
http://www.xmission.com/~bmidgley/m200/
http://tuxmobil.org/toshiba_portege_m200_tablet_linux.html

but don't really know where to start...

Can some of the Puppy Experts provide me with some hints of where to start and what might/would work and I will try it and post results here.

I'm a linux newbie, but will definitely want to try this to work, just need some guidance and since many people know how "under the hood" puppy works, tips on where to start would be really appreciated.

I will post results here.
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lickthefrog

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Apr 2006, 02:53    Post subject:  

i also run puppy (still only sometimes) on a tablet pc, toshiba r15. i need to figure out pen support as well.

i'll add the link to the linux wacom project: http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/main

and here's a link to someone who sorted out ubuntu on his r15: http://aleph-null.tv/go.php?doc=20050625-0102-56.xml

here also is a link to tablet pcs with linux: http://tuxmobil.org/tablet_unix.html

just thought if anyone else searches these forums for tabletpc stuff, this might help.

when i get the digitizer working, i'll try and describe how i do it.

i still have no idea where even to put drivers...wish me luck...
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Apr 2006, 03:46    Post subject:  

Cool good luck

I did try getting my wacom Pen Digitizer to work - so there may be some benefit in searching the format. I must admit I got bored and did not try that hard - it should certainly be possible. I am not sure if it might be better to use the 2.6 kernel based Puppy2 beta that will be out soon. I have a feeling it might be. Do report back if you run into difficulties.

Nathan who runs grafpup and the 1.09 community project that in one of the paradoxes of Linux will be going into beta after Puppy2 may be able to help. He is busy this week and will be working on the beta of 1.09 over the weekend - but certainly contact him for any advice.

Anyway once again - good luck Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Dec 2006, 03:02    Post subject: Specific Xorg Question for my TabletPC
Subject description: Xorg SDK or XFree86
 

Arf, arf! (a baby puppy greeting)

I feel like I've come a long way since imagining replacing WindowsXP Tablet Edition over a year ago. I was waiting for Puppy2 to come out and so I'm back at it.

Recently I flirted with ArchLinux in order to see if I could get my wacom driven TabletPC digitizer to work. I did. Then I broke something rather badly and was rescued a second time by Puppy (Muppy005, what I'm using now and what I'm hoping to build up to perfectly suit my Toshiba R15--so far I got my Alps synaptic driver configured properly).

So, now I'm stuck and can precisely name the point. I am attempting to compile (I don't even know if that's the correct term) linuxwacom. I got devx_212.sfs file and ran ./compile in the linuxwacom directory and much of it seems like it will work, but there is an error.

Code:
------

checking for specifying Wacom X driver module path... ***
    *** WARNING:
    *** Unable to compile wacom_drv.o{o,so} without XF86 build environment
    *** or Xorg SDK.
    *** wacom_drv.o will not be built
    ***
------------

BUILD ENVIRONMENT:
        Xorg SDK - no /usr
    XSERVER64 - no
          dlloader - no

-----------------

BUILD OPTIONS:
     wacom.o - no
  ----
     tabletdev.o - no
     wacom_drv.so - no
     wacom_drv.o - no /usr/X11R6/lib/xorg/modules/input


I'm thinking that I can find Xorg SDK somewhere and then it will work.

Then again, maybe I just don't know into which directory to tell it to look.

I'm going to keep searching, but if someone has a tip, I'd be much obliged.

Thanks,
Lickthefrog
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 04:49    Post subject: Got over the xorg-sdk problem  

Found a package from which I extracted xorg-sdk.

Figured out where to put that and then got over the previous error. Shocked

Linux-wacom compiled (if that's the correct term), and things are not so dim on this lonely and winding path.

I have to admit, it's kind of fun trying to solve these problems and follow a complex set of instructions. I'm not really technical. Rolling Eyes

But I'm still stuck. I have a driver, a place to put it, and some xorg.conf settings but there are a large number of variables so I have a lot of configuring to do.

Good night.

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 14:33    Post subject:  

Success!!! Very Happy

I can't really believe it myself. But I did it! I can use the TabletPC feature of my Toshiba R15 running Puppy Linux (Muppy005)!

So obviously it's possible. Took a lot of trial and error on my part and a whole lot of searching through forums (mostly this one, but some devoted to other distros).

This process has educated me somewhat, which has the greatest value.

I will offer any tips to someone who wants to try to set up what I have done; however, I'm not really sure I can be of much help since half the stuff I did, I can't really explain. Rolling Eyes

Well...I can't really describe how I feel yet. There are about two or three more steps I have to go through before I can really be happy because I want to replicate the good and efficient system I have going for grading papers (my real job) using WindowsXP Tablet Edition.

Yeah!

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jan 2007, 00:33    Post subject:  

We could do with a how to / dotpup for wacom tablets

I tried before to get my wacom working - it was time consuming Smile

also these progs might be of interest
anyway well done on getting it all working

    gsumi
    http://www.gtk.org/~otaylor/gsumi/index.html
    gogh
    http://www.goghproject.com/


Cool

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jan 2007, 00:59    Post subject:  

Thanks Lobster,

I was contacted by theinfamousj who is trying to do a better job than I did of getting it up and running. By that I mean, he mentioned he is writing up what he is doing (I'm assuming theinfamousj is a he).

For me, I was really confused by the linux-wacom site instructions, but obviously I got it working somehow. It took a lot of trial and error.

So while I offer it, I doubt I'll be of much help.

A dotpup would be cool. One thing, though, is that Tablet PCs are different from USB Tablets because the TabletPC wacom digitizer is a serial connection.

Here's a link to a page with some software I'm trying to play around with: http://groundstate.ca/node/370

The program I used to make the image is jarnal, which is java based so even a newbie like me can run it without knowing the correct way to install linux packages.

- lickthefrog2
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jan 2007, 03:22    Post subject:  

lickthefrog2 wrote:
A dotpup would be cool.


Yes it would.

It would be even COOLER if we could just get it going for everyone, "out of the box".

Did you add anything or just change some settings?
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jan 2007, 19:33    Post subject:  

John Doe wrote:
lickthefrog2 wrote:
A dotpup would be cool.

Did you add anything or just change some settings?


The main thing was getting Xorg SDK. I eventually found a debian package that I opened up and pulled the appropriate folder out of.

Beyond that, I just followed as best I could the directions from the linux-wacom site.

But my stylus button still isn't working properly as a right-click mouse button. I keep meaning to try to fix it, but haven't had time.

- lickthefrog2
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PostPosted: Sat 06 Jan 2007, 21:32    Post subject:  

I'm a she, but apparently my username is almost always taken as male. Maybe I'm too egotistical to be a female online. Who knows.

Anyway, a dotpup would be super. Right now, I'm stuck at the Xorg SDK part. So if anyone knows where I might find it, or has it to send to me directly, please do. I found a debian package that claimed to include it, but then couldn't actually find it in the package. Grrrr ...

Right now I've thrown up my hands and said: If my USB tablet is a HID device, why can't it just be a HID mouse? I don't even want all the cool tilt and whirl functions. Anyone know?
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jan 2007, 19:49    Post subject:  

Again, sorry, I'm not the best person for this because I really don't know what I'm doing,

I'm trying to get to you the directory I think you need. I zipped it up but the forum won't let me post it as an attachment, nor can I attach it to a PM to you. If you PM me your email address, I'll send it off to you.

As far as I know, the Xorg SDK thing is just a directory labeled "Server" that goes in the lib directory according to this page http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/debwacomnosrc:

Quote:
The xorg SDK in the case of FC3 is located in /usr/X11R6/lib/Server and we can
tell the configuration script this

./configure --with-xorg-sdk=/usr/X11R6/lib/Server


So I just took that folder from the debian package and put it there and then I no longer got the XorgSDK error.

Let me know if you want me to email you the archive. Otherwise, browse into that debian package, find the directory and copy it over.

Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

- lickthefrog2
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Jan 2007, 21:31    Post subject:  

Hello everyone, hello lickthefrog2!

I'm the orignal poster of this post and I'm back here and back with an interest of installing Wacom digitizer on my M200's newest Puppy!

OK, lickthefrog2, I know you wrote you didn't know exactly what you were doing but I'm sure that's not the case since you made it work. First of all - congratulations!

OK, we all want to make it work (at least I do) so let's start with it. Maybe we'll get to a dotpup phase in the end and prepare something for other fellow tableters!

So, please lickthefrog2, write as much as you can, try to write step by step what you did, I will try to do the same on my tablet and will keep you posted here of my progress... in the end we may come up with a full step-by-step guide on how to get wacom driver running on a tabletpc....

Again, congratulations lickthefrog2... and I can't wait to make it work on my tablet!

Please help me as much as you can.

- Michael
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PostPosted: Mon 22 Jan 2007, 02:48    Post subject:  

Hi HitRSS,

I'll write what I did. I actually did it twice, both times getting stumped, interestingly, at different points.

So I'll do it a third time, hopefully within a week. I'll write it as I go.

I still can't figure out the right-click pen button.

Back to my real job...

- lickthefrog2
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PostPosted: Mon 22 Jan 2007, 05:59    Post subject:  

Thanks for that!

I'd love to hear from you about it. I will try to do the same on my M200 and maybe we'll come up with an ultimate step-by-step guide on how to get it working.

I'll try to follow your steps once you've written something then. Have a great week!
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