(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

http://tmxxine.com/Wikka/wikka.php?wakk ... xxineShard

Yesterday 2.17.1 (the final bug fixed Puppy "Dancer") was released
today I am happy to release my personal slant on it

Much to my surprise I do not use OpenOffice very much
(Use Tmxxine Prism if you want that plus other programs)

I show how to add Open Office to Shard on the wiki
download one file and stick it in a directory (come on even Aunty No-Geek can manage that)

Xara I use all the time for DTP and creating images and artwork
I Love it.
Too big for Puppy but I much prefer this to Inkscape
So that is in
I have been using it right back from when it was in Beta for Windows

I prefer Gimpshop to Gimp, as it has the Photoshop look and feel


I like the Icewm themes in Warrens Ezpup so added Ezpup. However I removed the backgrounds
as I tend to have my own preferences
and hope you have yours too . . .
I provide a few suggestions for backgrounds and adding them . . . again easy enough for Uncle Ethel and Aunty Bert to manage . . .
Even your pet mermaid could do it . . .

Kompozer I use for HTML, it is basically a tweaked and bug fixed NVU
I added java because web sites often require it
and finally adblock+ blocks the ads and Stumbleupon is fun when browsing. Stumbleupon is too much fun - sorry had to go in

So basically you have Icewm with three icons for xara, gimp and Komposer and the rest is all the latest Puppy

It is my personal Tmxxine Shard. Hope you enjoy

http://tmxxine.com/Wikka/wikka.php?wakk ... xxineShard


Update:
Tronkel (see below) has reminded that Ezup should be uninstalled if you are updating to Shard from a previous install

I made the mistake of forgetting to uninstall a previous EZpup from my pup_save file. This of course clashed with the Shard deskop at first. I then uninstalled EZpup (takes a while) and then re-booted. Everything OK now.

should that be 2.17.1 ?

Yes

Corrected - thanks

How Linux Tmxxine Shard was created

For this distro creation, I started with:

* Puppy2.17.1 which I booted from with the option puppy pfix=ram (on initial bootup)

Move or delete any other sfs save files

Now set up Puppy the way you want your new distro to be
I started with the latest Ezpup and rebooted
I changed the desktop background with MU's background changer
I changed the default home page that Seamonkey uses
I installed Xara, Kompozer and Gimpshop .pets (ensuring I deleted the .pets once finished)
I added adblock+ and Stumbleupon to Seamonkey
I ran Dougals remaster script from the menu and followed the smart option
created an ISO which I then burnt
I asked MU and Pkag to host the ISO and uploaded to their servers

I've just tried Tmxxine Shard.

Very smart appearance and 3 well-chosen extra apps - no need to be more complicated than this. Appearance puts many other distros to shame! I'll keep this as my main Puppy version. Looking forward to a version based on 2.18 when it arrives.

Minor problem with duplicate menu entries for XARA. Probably my messy pup_save though. Can I manually delete the duplicates?

I made the mistake of forgetting to uninstall a previous EZpup from my pup_save file. This of course clashed with the Shard deskop at first. I then uninstalled EZpup (takes a while) and then re-booted. Everything OK now.

Maybe a warning to this effect should be included in the forum announcement?

Nothing to to with Shard - Anyone noticed a problem with 2.17.1 not retaining ALSA configuration? Sound is only partialy working as well.

I've just tried Tmxxine Shard.

Very smart appearance and 3 well-chosen extra apps - no need to be more complicated than this. Appearance puts many other distros to shame! I'll keep this as my main Puppy version. Looking forward to a version based on 2.18 when it arrives.

It is very much for me. The programs I actually use all the time. For example Audacity is a great program - never use it. I am gald you liked my choice of programs

Minor problem with duplicate menu entries for XARA. Probably my messy pup_save though. Can I manually delete the duplicates?

Rarsa or WhoDo would know for sure - I know I did some editing but can not remember where the Icewm menu config is. . .
it is an invisible file in an obscure place (use the eye in Rox to turn on invisible files)

Does this fix it?

you can just rename the appropriate .desktop file in /usr/share/applications, then fun fixmenus in a console window, control-alt-backspace, then restart the window manager with xwin

Also will use your warning about uninstalling Ezpup

Update

Not a bug
Solved in later post


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As I boot from CD I came across a serious bug

When I save, the settings are not retained on the next boot and it boots into a pristine JWM without Icewm
and without the added programs



At first I thought low memory on the HD - not that
typing ctrl + alt + backspace
and xwin (or xwin icewm) loads jwm and not icewm
- Icewm from Ezpup is only there on the first boot . . .

Not really sure where to start with fixing this.
I may have to go back to using Prism

Lobster wrote:At first I thought low memory on the HD - not that typing ctrl + alt + backspace and xwin (or xwin icewm) loads jwm and not icewm - Icewm from Ezpup is only there on the first boot . . .

xwin will only load the last chosen WM. To reload IceWM after JWM has run you need to run xwin starticewm. Does that help?

Try deleting /etc/X11/xorg.conf and rebooting. Reset your Xserver parameters and try to start IceWM again by using Ctrl+Alt+Backspace then xwin starticewm. Does that resolve the issue?

xwin will only load the last chosen WM. To reload IceWM after JWM has run you need to run xwin starticewm. Does that help?

Thanks for suggestions
No does not help

Try deleting /etc/X11/xorg.conf and rebooting. Reset your Xserver parameters and try to start IceWM again by using Ctrl+Alt+Backspace then xwin starticewm. Does that resolve the issue?

No.
. . . just thought of something let me try that . . .

Update
eh . . . I think I worked it out
somehow (the fish did it!) the pup_217.sfs that was on the hard disk in /mnt/home was from a standard 2.17.1

By copying the same file (bigger because of the added programs) from the Tmxxine Shard CD to /mnt/home
Icewm became available again

Puppy / Shard boots from these files on the Hard Disk first because it is faster

Thanks for suggestion Warren

We still have some way to go for the public release next year. PC compatible phones are not yet available and also I have decided Tmxxine should sing using "flinger"

The reason is quite simple. Communication between other branes requires maths and music. Maths as a language of science and music because it worked so well in 'Close Encounters of the third kind'

Here was our original spec
created in 2005
http://peace.wikia.com/wiki/Tmxxine_Linux

Tmxxine Linux is based on a future/alternative brane Puppy Linux featuring voice and natural language recognition incorporated in an embedded Cell processor powered mobile phone (manufactured in the far East)

Lobster wrote:Update
eh . . . I think I worked it out
somehow (the fish did it!) the pup_217.sfs that was on the hard disk in /mnt/home was from a standard 2.17.1

Ah, the nut behind the wheel is responsible more car crashes than any other single cause.

Operating systems would be perfect if nobody used them.

At the moment I am reading 'Machine Nature', about bio-inspired computing, for a course I may be doing.

Moshe Sipper, Machine Nature
http://www.moshesipper.com/mn/

Computers at the momet are almost autistic in their precision. Whilst this is useful in many areas, I am interested in self evolving computer languages . . .

seem to have wandered off again . . .