2.17 Universal Installer feedback needed

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#31 Post by Bruce B »

RazzBear wrote:I posted picture first then apologised in my next post
after seeing how big it was

"Sorry about the big picture in my previous post "

Maybe i could have resized or cropped just the relevant part,
is what the apology is for
I get it. You thought it was too late to remove, crop or resize after it was posted. It wasn't and probably still isn't.

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#32 Post by Bruce B »

Barry, puppyinstaller-bk1.gz worked for me also. It now shows /dev/hda1, wereas the default installer didn't.

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#33 Post by Sit Heel Speak »

All existing disks/partitions are seen here.

I just tried 2.17, nolzma version downloaded from a mirror other than ibiblio, with a good md5sum starting with 2d0. Installing to a 1.6GB hard disk, cabled as secondary master.

If the disk has a single existing vfat partition, formatted vfat but with nothing on it, then Puppy Universal Installer (PUI) will put a frugal install on it, automatically.

If the disk has no partitions (i.e. I just used GPartEd to erase the vfat partition, but didn't then put a new partition on), then PUI does not offer any install. This is potentially confusing to a new user, since it still offers (only) the superfloppy install, and I can foresee woe down that path. You have to fdisk the disk first, using GPartEd, whose default setting is ext2. Ext3 and reiserfs are also offered.

If you at this point go away from PUI and call up GPartEd from the menu, and tell GPartEd to fdisk the particular disk partition to ext2, ext3, or reiserfs, then PUI installs to it just fine. You can choose either a frugal (co-exist) install or a full install. There is a danger to new users here, since the desired disk is not automatically selected by GPartEd.

It might be wise if GPartEd is automatically started, after an initial advisement prompt, and if the option is somehow advised of or prompted for, before GPartEd is started, which disk to install to. Also, it would be nice if PUI offers to put a 256MB swap partition on the disk if none already exists on the system.

Since I have a pre-exising GRUB install, I told PUI to quit when it offered to install GRUB; I then modified my existing GRUB config file (menu.lst) to boot from the newly-created install.

Works just fine, no matter whether the underlying partition is ext2, ext3, or reiserfs.

Upon first boot to the new disk-install, the heavy-encrypted pup_save file I created works just fine (however, I have recently seen it stated on the Gentoo forum that aes is now trivially easy to break).

Auto-version-update did not find any of the other pup_saves I have on other hard disks in this system (for earlier Puppy versions), which is good.

I notice the 2.17 bootup script is creating a Linux swap file, regardless of the fact I never told it to.

After creating the hard disk full install using PUI from the live CD, the CD (well, in my case, DVD actually) would not eject using the DVD-writer's front panel eject button. Had to choose Menu-Shutdown-Reboot and then push the DVD-writer's eject button in between Puppy shutdown and the initial BIOS splash screen of the next boot, in order to get the DVD to eject so as to boot from hard disk. I guess this means that it is not possible to play a DVD or access a data CD from the initial live-CD boot of 2.17.

The "Do you want to encrypt the pup_save.2fs file?" question talks about "to void the overhead." That should be "to avoid the overhead." Grammatical neatness counts.

BTW, when I GPartEd'd this disk, I forgot to format it after I fdisk'ed it. All three times with the three filesystems ext2, ext3 and reiserfs. Didn't matter, Puppy installed and ran just fine. I presume, then, that GPartEd automatically formats the partition if I forget to?

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#34 Post by Joe_DK »

Seems you have solved it, I can see all partitions now!
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#35 Post by Sage »

That CD retention matter can be a nuisance. Klaus introduced the auto-tray-open-before-shutdown-with-message right at the beginning of liveCD s. Has a touch of class about it! Several distros have adopted it. Not sure what the overheads are, though?

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#36 Post by RazzBear »

puppyinstaller-bk1.gz worked for me
It recognised the partitions and i did a full HD install to /dev/hda3
using grub on partition only

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#37 Post by BarryK »

Well, I haven't really solved it. puppyinstaller-bk1 is the version from Puppy 2.14 with some small improvements only. Dougal used that version and made considerable improvements, particularly with handling of GRUB and his version is in 2.16 and 2.17.

Now I will carefully look at importing some of Dougal's improvements into our working script. I'll just do some basic enhancing that is not likely to break anything, then release 2.17.1-prerelease soon.

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#38 Post by Greystar »

Can confirm also your test installer worked on mine as well.

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#39 Post by BarryK »

Have made a few more improvements.
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#40 Post by PaulBx1 »

Klaus introduced the auto-tray-open-before-shutdown-with-message right at the beginning of liveCD s. Has a touch of class about it!
Between the way Puppy does it, and Knoppix, I prefer Puppy. Otherwise you are always having to screw around with the CD drawer every time you boot. But I have a BIOS password enabled, which allows me to open the drawer any time I need to before proceeding with entry of the password. So I have to screw around with a password on every boot instead. :lol: One could put in a single-letter password (if that is allowed) which wouldn't be that much screwing around...

Guess this is getting pretty far afield.

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#41 Post by Sage »

Clearly too much screwing going on in the USA!

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#43 Post by nic2109 »

BarryK wrote:Have made a few more improvements.
This DOES represent an improvement as this version suggests a placement for GRUB; which has always been blank before.

Unfortunately the resulting installation still fails: it boots but X won't start and I am left with the # prompt.

I'm guessing that this is self-inflicted as I have 3 partitions all with Puppy on - in various states - with a couple of pup_save files too, and this seems to give PUI no end of problems.

The resulting menu.lst has all 3 entries, two of which give Error 15 File not found and the 3rd boots to the # prompt! :oops:

I'm considering trashing it ALL and starting again, but feel sure that this shouldn't really be necessary as it boots fine from CD and picks up a pup_save too and so runs just as I like. If only I could get it to install like that all would be well.

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#44 Post by edoc »

BarryK wrote:Have made a few more improvements.
I have downloaded and saved this to /mnt/hda1/root/my-downloads
the decompressed it.

I don't see where the decompressed app went so I do not know how to proceed.
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#45 Post by BarryK »

Here's the latest, as used in 2.17.1rc.

Download somewhere, then open a terminal in that directory, then
type this (not the #):
# gunzip puppyinstaller-bk3.gz
# chmod 777 puppyinstaller-bk3
# ./puppyinstaller-bk3
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#46 Post by edoc »

BarryK wrote:Here's the latest, as used in 2.17.1rc.

Download somewhere, then open a terminal in that directory, then
type this (not the #):
# gunzip puppyinstaller-bk3.gz
# chmod 777 puppyinstaller-bk3
# ./puppyinstaller-bk3
I walked through all of the steps ...
still get the Error 15 here.
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#47 Post by edoc »

Which log file should I post so someone can spot where my laptop is
finding and loading 216, please?

I have deleted every reference I can find to 216 and all of the displayed
boot text says it is loading 217 but I still end up in the broken 216.

It is driving me nuts ... and more importantly it is preventing productivity.
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#48 Post by Sit Heel Speak »

1. Hooray, puppyinstaller-bk3 ejects the live-DVD!

2. I didn't try the GRUB installation, I just clicked through the "X" close buttons until no more appeared, because I have a pre-existing GRUB installation (Grub4DOS).

2. Umm, but the DVD door is not automatically closed when I reboot.

3. Urk. Unlike with the original PUI from the 2.17 (not .1rc) live-DVD, the full (normal) install from puppyinstaller-bk3 on first disk-boot asks again for locale, puts me through xorgwizard, and needs the NIC and network IP settings reconfigured. In other words, on first disk-boot Puppy isn't reading the pup_save.2fs which I created upon shutting down the initial live-DVD boot. Yes, pup_save.2fs is present in / and its timestamp is correct.

4. On second disk-boot, the locale and xorg settings are not asked for, i.e. pup_save.2fs evidently is being read, but the network IP addresses once again must be reconfigured. The first disk-boot session is not saving them to pup_save.2fs. So, I entered the net stuff again in the Wizard and Seamonkey.

5. On third disk-boot, all ist in ordnung with locale, xorg settings, and network card module and IP addresses.

6. A nit, the "NORMAL" button (option 2) is on the left, the "COEXIST" button (option 1) is on the right. Oy vey! To a native English speaker this looks backward.

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#49 Post by Dougal »

Joe_DK wrote:I erased partition hda1 and created a new ext2 on hda1.
hda1,2,3,6 now appears in P.U.I.

I instal a puppy co-exist on hda1, don't install grub.
hda1,2,3,6 shows in P.U.I

I instal GRUB on SUPERBLOCK of hda1.
HDA1 IS now GONE in P.U.I. Only hda2,3,6 shows.
According to the list of changes at the top of my modified installer, that bug was fixed on May 10th. The installer in Puppy is simply not based on my letest version (available on the "Updated Universal Installer" thread).
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#50 Post by edoc »

Dougal wrote:
According to the list of changes at the top of my modified installer, that bug was fixed on May 10th. The installer in Puppy is simply not based on my letest version (available on the "Updated Universal Installer" thread).
Could you post the thread # or the URL, please?

EDIT: OOOPS! Is it this one?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 020#132020

I am among many who are trying to sort out problems we are having
with the 2.17 Frugal update install and am trying to find answers across
multiple threads ... it is challenging to say the least!
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