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#46 Post by edoc »

The ISO has been downloaded -- took "forever". :-)

Need to get some sleep so will check the download for accuracy then run the upgrade
in the morning.

Will report back ...
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#47 Post by john biles »

Hello edoc,
It took me 24 hours to upload TEENpup 2.14 to servage on broadband, so I know what your feeling.

Now I've been thinking about you typing app and by what I can make out you want an App to teach your children to type.
If this is the case, here's the beauty of TEENpup2.0.0 and TEENpup 2.14
As both run a KDE base (version 3.5.4) all you need to do is download from debian the KDE Education package which contains about 15 Apps from periodic tables to a typing teaching app.
After downloading the package using the "Console" convert it with undeb/unrpm which is already in TEENpup and paste all the required files in their correct folders.
Find the App you've just pasted in /usr/bin and again in "Console" type ./name of app you want to open and see if it starts or tells you a dependency is missing.
Most of the time if there is a dependency missing say for example libedoc.so.1 either do a search for libedoc or look in /usr/lib or /opt/kde/lib and see if there's something like libedoc.so.0.0.0 if there is create a link and rename it to libedoc.so.1 and in Console try again with ./name of app you want to open and see what happens.
I know this works as I have a laptop running with these apps and it took only about 20 minutes to get 13 of the 15 working.
Any problems let me know
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#48 Post by cb88 »

whoa never said anything about kid chatting on the net that is part of the point they are not on the net they are chatting to the computer offline to well mannered AI not that the kids wil be well mannered could make it so the chatbot exits if you aren't "nice". You could add all kinds of trivia stuff to the chatbot to make it educational maybe I will have a better experience compiling j-alice....

it wouldn't nessarily produce good typing habit though would it...good for practice later on then perhaps....
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#49 Post by edoc »

I am not sure why but I never seem to get a clean iso download under TeenPup 2.14
but will try again on my other laptop with 3.00. Failing that I will very reluctantly bring
up W2K and try that.

sh-3.00# md5sum teenpup2.14.iso.md5.txt
8e453d57dde0483ddc144815ea1238fd teenpup2.14.iso.md5.txt
sh-3.00# md5sum teenpup2.14.iso
2197f55c84c430c112feda456ea262f3 teenpup2.14.iso
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#50 Post by edoc »

No joy using Live-CD Puppy 3.00, md5sum shows a mismatch on the other laptop.

Sigh.

Will try again - downloading is now going much more quickly than before.

I turned off the screen saver and energy saver in case they are causing some sort
of corrupting interruption.
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#51 Post by john biles »

Hello edoc,
I use Prozilla Downloader which comes in TEENpup2.0.0 and has never let me down. It will keep redialing a website until it gets the whole iso if if it times out 200 times. it just keep trying until it gets what you want.

You can download it from MU's site but it also needs another dotpup to work.
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#52 Post by Bahurim »

I also had troubles with d/l when using Firefox. CLI and wget to the rescue, no problems.

Posting this using the new TeenPup 2.14 now and I can tell it is improved. I very much like the included CUPS and Java, thanks! Works good here with my Epson RX700. Java installed fine too.

On the other side, this release is a little too newbie for my own tastes but it would be great for grandma's / grandpa's. Ex. - I prefer to name things the actual program name. That's just my personal preference.

Anyway, great release all the same! What are the plans now?

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#53 Post by john biles »

Hello Bahurim,
On the other side, this release is a little too newbie for my own tastes but it would be great for grandma's / grandpa's. Ex. - I prefer to name things the actual program name. That's just my personal preference.
First thank you for confirming my intension for TEENpup 2.14's menu to be newbie friendly.

I have plans to make TEENpup more useful with extra Apps that you don't normally see in a Puppy based distro, but it's early days yet.
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john biles wrote:Hello edoc,
I use Prozilla Downloader which comes in TEENpup2.0.0 and has never let me down. It will keep redialing a website until it gets the whole iso if if it times out 200 times. it just keep trying until it gets what you want.

You can download it from MU's site but it also needs another dotpup to work.
I had quite a problem trying to find Prozilla.

A search on username MU brought me to a site in German - nothing there.

Finally tried a Forum search on Prozilla and found your old post among others.

For the sake of others following this thread here is the URL:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 116&t=5886
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#55 Post by edoc »

http://pkagfiles.net/.isos-fM9/TEENpup/ is not working.

Tried Prozilla on http://puppyisos/isos/2007-07-12-to-12/teenpup2.14.iso
and after 58 tries it also does not seem to be working.

Ideas, please?
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#57 Post by edoc »

sh-3.00# wget -c --referer=http://puppyisos.org http://puppyisos.isos/2007-07-12-to-12/teenpup2.14.iso --18:09:22-- http://puppyisos.isos/2007-07-12-to-12/teenpup2.14.iso
=> `teenpup2.14.iso'
Resolving puppyisos.isos... failed: Name or service not known.
sh-3.00# wget -c --referer=http://puppyisos.org
wget: missing URL
Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]...

Try `wget --help' for more options.
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sorry, was a typo, corrected previous message :oops:
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#59 Post by edoc »

HOORAY!!

My TEENpup 2.14 upgrade appears to have gone smoothly - so far everything in
Seamonkey appears intact.

It is 2 hours later than I should be up so more tomorrow.

Well Done Mr. Biles & Thanks to MU for Prozilla!
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#60 Post by edoc »

Streaming Audio works on BBC but not video here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/tv/d/

The window opens but nothing plays. Anyone else seeing the same result?

Also, this site: http://www.seehawaiilive.com/skea-cam.cfm calls for application/x-java-vm

Any chance TEENpup has resolved that?
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#61 Post by Bahurim »

A few things I noticed for your consideration.

Bringing up kcontrol or kcontroledit from CLI gives a blank config, no values to change.

Petget program is empty on the left where usually all the progs are.

Did you take out the freememmapplet from the taskbar?

I also installed EZpup but it makes the desktop not come up when rebooting. Strange, this is twice now, first with your earlier release now on the new.

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#62 Post by edoc »

Also, I opened Kate to edit a file and then could not close it.

I was in the middle of selecting the directory where the text file to be edited was
located and then switched tasks to do something else. When I tried to close
Kate it did not respond - I had to use the task manager to kill it.
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#63 Post by john biles »

Hello edoc,
Both sites open for me see screenshots.
One question did you use the Java installer dotpup icon on the right of screen and install Java before going to the site requiring Java.
The other site BBC TV worked fine with the realplayer plugin for Seamonkey? I'm running TEENpup 2.14 installed to my HD. I don't know if this makes a difference or not?
As for "Kate" I'll have to do more testing?

Hello Bahurim,
Even though TEENpup 2.14 uses some KDE Apps it doesn't contain the full KDE System. So that is why some KDE functions don't work, sorry.
As for Petget Program, I must have removed the file containing the Package list for Petget. I try and find it and post it here if you haven't found it yourself.
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#65 Post by edoc »

My goof! I had Java loaded before but had not reloaded it following the upgrade to 2.14.

Not sure why but the BBC video feed is working fine now as well.

Thanks for the quick solution!
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