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Posted: Mon 16 Jul 2007, 12:57
by Firefox
I deleted then reformated hda1 and wiped mbr. There was nothing on it except an empty lost& found file.

I just tried the connect icon and it works fine, using it now, Maybe a reboot was needed or maybe me pressing bittons to quick
Everything fine now.

Puppy 2.17beta available

Posted: Mon 16 Jul 2007, 13:14
by Scoticus
Barry

There have been a number of posts on loading sfs files where things appear still be up in the air.

There are 3 posts :

OpenOffice, devx, -any sfs files not being merged or loaded

Placing sfs files in a frugal install

More problems merging sfs files.

where I and others are struggling. Therefore the question in relation to 2.17.

I was hoping that everything would fall into place easily as I have to get OO up and running after a HD crash and 2.16.1 was my main hope

Posted: Mon 16 Jul 2007, 14:34
by kirk
* The rt73-rt2570 module problem seems fixed.

* The clock being an hour slow is fixed.

* Still have pup_save.2fs being created on a ext3 partition. When rc.shutdown is running the final sanity check shows that the name of the save file is pup_save.2fs and the file system inside the pup_save file will be ext3.

* Encrypted pup_saves are mounted as ext2 and not fscked. A comment in the init script says "#forum feedback this takes to long when encrypted..." That's a mis-understanding. When I posted that, some assumed I was talking about an encrypted pup_save, but it was non-encrypted with a lot of files.

* The bcm43xx problem I reported for 217a is a non-problem. I tried it again last night and it worked. I had tried it a few times before and couldn't get it going. Don't know why. Sorry for the spam.

The ext/fsck problems are not new to 2.17. Looking good though.

Upgrading difficulties?

Posted: Mon 16 Jul 2007, 16:45
by Henry
Hello, again (edit)

I think everything is mostly working now! Instead of trying to use the 2fs file from 2.17alpha with 2.17beta, I used the 2fs from the older NOP 2.16.1, thus doing a true version upgrade. Had to jiggle a few things, relocate icons, etc., but now Glipper works, and with the help of the upgrade moving some of the old cups dross out via /tmp/versioncleanup/ and removing the old ghostscripyt programs the new cups works too!

BTW I have stuck with Adobe Reader 5 in favor of epdfview!

Henry
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I had written (disregard, I guess):

Two things, so far, I have trouble with in 2.17beta are Glipper and CUPS. Yes, they work fine in a fresh install! But it seems very hard in an upgrade to overcome the effects of previous use of Glipper and and 0.3 cups, which seem to be "uninstallable," at least without skilled surgery.

As a result, in the menu Glipper icons appear both for the regular and the new autorun choice. Problem is Glipper never returns after a reboot, even though the "glipper_on" file toggles as expected in root.

Cups works but only with the old, bulky 0.3 version previously used. Long term one expects the problem of the package installer having very old and very new items, mostly inadequately described, will pass. In the meantime, maybe someone can suggest a way around this.

Posted: Mon 16 Jul 2007, 19:33
by headfound
Barry, i'll post this here as your blog gave a cgi error!
In the gamepup i just created, i put a small program in to pop a window up after the xorg/xvesa wizards saying ' welcome to puppy, Do you want to view a short introduction, yes or no'. 'Yes' opens dillo with the normal page, 'no' kills the script.
It might be worth considering as the majority of people trying the new releases are already users!
I used MU's wizardmaker, but i'm sure you could make something smaller and simpler.

Re: Puppy 2.17beta available

Posted: Mon 16 Jul 2007, 20:47
by Leon
Scoticus wrote:There have been a number of posts on loading sfs files where things appear still be up in the air.

There are 3 posts :

OpenOffice, devx, -any sfs files not being merged or loaded

Placing sfs files in a frugal install

More problems merging sfs files.

where I and others are struggling. Therefore the question in relation to 2.17.

I was hoping that everything would fall into place easily as I have to get OO up and running after a HD crash and 2.16.1 was my main hope
I use one frugal install with Grub4dos on a hard disk FAT32 partition and another one booting from Wkpup2 floppy diskette on a usb flash drive VFAT partition. Both sfs files, devx_200.sfs and OpenOffice.org ooo-220.sfs mount from / directory without any problem in both installations.

I noticed that psubdir parameter works now for pup_save.2fs file and not for pup_xxx.sfs file as before.

Now it's possible to have all pup_xxx.sfs, devx_xxx.sfs, zdrv_xxx.sfs and pupswap.swp on / directory and all pup_save.2fs with the other Puppy files each in its own directory.

This is a part of my menu.lst:

# Boot Puppy Linux
title Puppy-p2.17b, idehd, bp217b, pup_save.2fs file created by Puppy-p2.17b
rootnoverify (hd0,4)
kernel /bp217b/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd psubdir=bp217b
initrd /bp217b/initrd.gz
boot

# Boot Puppy Linux
title Puppy-p2.17b, idehd, bp217b_, pup_save.2fs file upgraded from previous version
rootnoverify (hd0,4)
kernel /bp217b_/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd psubdir=bp217b_
initrd /bp217b_/initrd.gz
boot

# Boot Puppy Linux
title Puppy-p2.17b, idehd, bp217b0, create new pup_save.2fs
rootnoverify (hd0,4)
kernel /bp217b0/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd psubdir=bp217b0 pfix=ram
initrd /bp217b0/initrd.gz
boot

Posted: Mon 16 Jul 2007, 21:36
by John Doe
BUGS

1# Modem that is autodetected when booting to RAM is not detected when booting from FULL HD install. When I open pupdial and hit "probe for modem" it is found.

scratch this one, it's a behaviour not a bug -> 2# Using Full HD install, I uncompressed OpenOffice Squash. Did fixmenus and restarted X all was well. When I rebooted, entire pinboard vanished except for the office icons.

Urgent Sm/Ff/Tb security releases, this week.

Posted: Mon 16 Jul 2007, 22:56
by Greatnessguru
Heads up:

mozilla . dev . planning
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/
Weekly Status Meeting: July 16
"WeeklyUpdates/2007-07-16
Fx/TB 1.5.0.13/2.0.0.5
* Due a critical security bug (cross browser scripting) Fx/Tb2005 has become a firedrill release.
* A regression was found in Fx2005rc1 builds which caused a respin.
* Fx2005rc2 testing is in progress. We will have updates ready to test this evening.
* At this point the tentative release date is next Thursday (7/19), but we might be able to accelerate the release, as Fx2005 buils are ready/tested. This is to be discussed.
* Tb2005 will either be released at the same time or shortly after Fx."

SeaMonkey RCs:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/ ... tes-1.1.3/

Note: no Sm 1.0.x.RCs since that branch is EOLed.

Thank you,
Eddie

Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2007, 02:31
by kirk
Tried the kernel-src.sfs, when I tried building a driver (rt2570) it complained:

ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid.
include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing.


Also, not a Puppy problem, if geany is minimized and you right click to close it, X crashes.

Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2007, 02:38
by John Doe
scratch this one, it's a behaviour not a bug ->
2# Using Full HD install, I uncompressed OpenOffice Squash. Did fixmenus and restarted X all was well. When I rebooted, entire pinboard vanished except for the office icons.

Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2007, 02:59
by PaulBx1
* Encrypted pup_saves are mounted as ext2 and not fscked. A comment in the init script says "#forum feedback this takes to long when encrypted..." That's a mis-understanding. When I posted that, some assumed I was talking about an encrypted pup_save, but it was non-encrypted with a lot of files.
Maybe you were talking non-encrypted, but I noticed a distinct slowdown when fsck'ing encrypted files.

My problem with that bit of code is that it stops doing fsck at all with encrypted files. I thought when we were talking about it, way back when, that we were going to fsck every 10th time or so for encrypted pupsaves.

On that download of the src code, I tried it too and it got truncated too. First time I ever ran into that. Wonder what is going on?

BTW I have to report a success. :) Got a Canon MP390 printer working using CUPS and the recipe at linuxprinting.org. First time printing with Puppy. Too bad the printer has a marginal print head. :roll:

Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2007, 03:52
by jamesbond
Is there a way for me to enable the "scrolling tons of messages" view when puppy is booting? (like the early version of puppy)? I tried pfix=debug but it's nor verbose enough.

Trying to figure out why 2.17beta (and 2.17alpha for that matter) won't boot off virtualbox, while 2.16 and earlier does.

Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2007, 04:11
by John Doe
jamesbond wrote:Is there a way for me to enable the "scrolling tons of messages" view when puppy is booting? (like the early version of puppy)? I tried pfix=debug but it's nor verbose enough.
perhaps this works?:

puppy pfix=debug loglevel=7

don't know if it works or not, got it here when researching wakepup2 tune-up:

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BootParms

Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2007, 04:17
by jamesbond
John Doe wrote:perhaps this works?:

puppy pfix=debug loglevel=7

don't know if it works or not, got it here when researching wakepup2 tune-up:

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BootParms
Thank, it does help. Inch closer to problem (seems something to do with aufs test_add). Vbox log shows "guru meditation" error though... stopping at fxrstor instruction, so most likely it's vbox emulation error.

Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2007, 10:34
by Lobster
Time to try printing . . .
I have a Lpt1 printer (Canon Bubblejet)

these are the options provided whilst running the CUPS wizard
Image

None of those seem right? Is it not recognizing my lpt1 (parallel printing port)?

Printer

Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2007, 12:34
by Firefox
Hi Lobster

There should a couple of parallel printer ports defined as Epson or HP at least whenever I`ve used it. I can only surmise that your bios is not configured corectly so the port is not recognised.

Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2007, 12:43
by Lobster
:oops: I blame the fish

OK Firefox, will look in BIOS - good tip - and try again. Many heads are better than one (that sounds strange)

:wink:

Update - see further on - you was right! Many thanks :)

Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2007, 12:51
by BarryK
Lobster, I haven't tested a parallel port printer, just assumed it works. Can you check that the 'lp' module is loaded, in a terminal window type 'lsmod'. It should be, if it isn't then we would have to chase down the reasons why not. If it isn't, try loading it, with 'modprobe lp' then run the CUPS Wizard.

Other than that, you printer needs to be turned on when you start the CUPS Wizard.

Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2007, 13:17
by Lobster
Hi Barry hi guys

Some fool [ahem . . . moi] :oops: had turned off the Parallel port in the bios (probably an IRC conflict)

Anyway ran the very simple wizard again. Did not even bother to do a test print, just went straight to print.

Just worked. Another Puppy success. 8)

Basically this new system works on lpt. It is faster then the previous Puppy system on my system and the quality is better. Outstanding.

I wanted to print this
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Empanadas

worked very well :)
Now to make fish and banana Empanadas . . .

Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2007, 15:44
by willhunt
file mounter fails to remove dir in mnt when mnt fails:(