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PostPosted: Wed 17 Oct 2007, 05:12    Post subject:  

I've given it a spin and its very nice and polished Smile
I couldn't use xorg because my nvidia chip and usb mouse don't agree with it Sad but it worked fine with xvesa and seemed very fast. Everything opened almost instantly, much faster than my ageing 2.15 install!
There's a great choice of software too.
Great work Lob!

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Sage

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Oct 2007, 09:38    Post subject:  

Looks nice on your displays, Lob., but is far too big!
I don't permit any of my many machines to run on more than 256Mb main memory, although it can be a struggle with some distros.
Really, we do NOT want to follow the bloat-road set by some OSes I could mention.
Trim it, friend!
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Oct 2007, 10:20    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
I don't permit any of my many machines to run on more than 256Mb main memory, although it can be a struggle with some distros.
Really, we do NOT want to follow the bloat-road set by some OSes I could mention.
Trim it, friend!


You are right.
It is too big and I am getting some slow down after an hour or two, which I guess is something to do with memory flushing and sfs? Not sure..

Warren wanted to make a big Viz in Puppy 2.15 (again by adding Open Office and I berated the early betas until we got it down to Puppy size.
Viz was still big but great and the legacy continues in Ezpup. So I have to take my own medicine . . .

One of the things I am very keen on with Tmxxine is as much compatibility with Puppy as possible and rapid operating system creation, modification and deployment

It is time to create "Shard 3.01" . . .
Will announce its arrival soon . . .

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Oct 2007, 02:28    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
It is too big and I am getting some slow down after an hour or two, which I guess is something to do with memory flushing and sfs? Not sure..



I'll hazard a guess that it is the Open Office slow-bloat.
Suggest leaving out OpenOffice and including Wine;
M$office is better : )
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PostPosted: Mon 22 Oct 2007, 04:05    Post subject:  

I created Shard based on NOP (Puppy 3.01 based puplet)
http://tmxxine.com/Wikka/wikka.php?wakka=LinuxTmxxineShard

There is a section on adding sfs, which I have not automated - but something along the lines of automated sfs is being prototyped for Talking Stick
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22514

The only program I have tried with Wine is Dreamweaver
and even though Dreamweaver is a great product
I did not enjoy using it with Wine and preferred Kompozer

Native apps feel better

I imagine the same is true of MS Office
If I need to run from MS Office
I would take the Shard CD out of my DVD Drive
and boot into Windows and run
- well to be honest I would run Open Office . . .

Why should I learn to use a piece of software
that I have no interest in using anymore?
I have taught MS Office and I know it is a great product.
Open Office has NOT surpassed it - Yet.

Abiword becomes unstable after 7-8 pages
but Open Office Write is stable.
I don't use IE under Wine
(I hear the latest version is very good)
simply because MS only make a good product
when they have to.
When there is no competition, they don't bother . . .
Anyway IE is now the inferior, insecure, incompatible product

My commitment to Linux is pragmatic.
I use it because it has a future. MS is heading for a crash
(they won't dissapear) Everyone at MS know this.
Tesco (the largest UK supermarket) have put Ubuntu
on a base unit and sell it for £139 (with Open Office)
This sort of thing moves Linux into mainstream adoption. Hardware + Linux

The other day I had to transfer pics via cable to my PC
- I have done it with Puppy but could not find the info
- I used Win98 which I have on the computer
and which the camera is designed for.

If it works for you. Use it.

I think I am ramblin' . . .
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PostPosted: Mon 22 Oct 2007, 08:44    Post subject:  

pupshock wrote:
M$office is better : )

nice troll

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PostPosted: Fri 02 Nov 2007, 08:25    Post subject: problem with xorg  

problem with xorg.
have upgraded TMxxine with the prism 3.01
all went well but all of a sudden xorg won't load, doing xorgwizard, test.
alle goes well, click done and get a black screen with red that there were problems
started up de cd, copied de xorg config, nothing
did a new install with update, reboot and again nothing.
the system won't work.
typing xwin gifs me the same result.
(i think puppy is jalouse because i have had to use windows a lot the last days)


and a hint about open office
i think open office has to be on a distro, just like thinderbird and firefox.
why?
because these are programs that people know from windows.
i now have a bootable usb stick with puppy, and portable apps.
if a host pc can't boot the usb i can use portable apps that has open office, thunderbird and firefox to.
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PostPosted: Mon 31 Dec 2007, 06:16    Post subject:  

Well..finally got me some tmxxine (think 2.17 based) action going on this gateway mt3705 lap wifi using a d-link dwlG122 ver b1 usb dongle with the pup rt2750 driver (first time I got it to work that way..)

Cool so far & looking forward to more! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Feb 2009, 16:59    Post subject:  Tmxxine Prism  

Just installed Txxine_Prism to a 4gig usb recently and found that this is a great puppy to work with. Having Open Office already installed is a big plus for those of us who are new to linux package management. There are a few new concepts to learn when using linux, however this distro is more user friendly than some others. Thanks for helping me make the transition to being a linux user.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Feb 2009, 00:13    Post subject:  

danjandris:

You heap praise on our Crustaceous member Lobster,
and is he around to thank you?

Not on your Nellie.

But welcome to Puppy anyway.

I'm sure Lob will be pleased with your great results.

Chris.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Feb 2009, 05:16    Post subject:  

Thanks guys Very Happy

Sadly the bandwidth on the tmxxine site has been exceeded - which is strange as I did not think there was a bandwidth limit . . .
You can download from here for now
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Linux-Tmxxine-39799.shtml

and see a video of the previous 'Rainbow' version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VihXCn07R5w

Prism is very good - my last effort 'Dark Force' did not work very well. Embarassed
Why should this be? It is the programs included - this was a developers edition. I just added programming languages and they did not seem to work too well. The DeveloperPup that someone else has been creating has more potential (but the mouse was not working on that one for me). New version expected soon . . .

The truth is I consider the puplets I create to be 100% Puppy compatible. I change as little as possible and Prism just includes Icewm (Ezpup from Warren) and OpenOffice and a few other pogs.
http://tmxxine.com/wik/wikka.php?wakka=LinuxTmxxineFaqs
For a lot of people that is ideal.
I also spend usually only about 6 hours creating the puplet.
Maybe when Woof is ready it will be even easier for everyone to generate customised puplets. Cool

So what about the latest Linux Tmxxine?
http://tmxxine.com/wik/wikka.php?wakka=LinuxTmxxineUpgrades

and the future . . .
Will we be using Deep Thought? Yes! Woof? Yes!
. . . and what will this be known as? 'Shine' . . . or whatever name you use . . .
Over to you . . .

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