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musher0

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:49    Post subject:  

Hi rockedge.

Nice success story!

Yeah, although DOSBox was initially meant to keep old DOS games running,
it's doing a great job with the more serious stuff, too.

BFN.

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Nov 2015, 13:03    Post subject:  

Not trying to hijack the thread...but it seems there may be some folks on the forum that are old enough to remember a CP/M then DOS based flat file database called DataStar(InfoStar) made by MicroPro(The WordStar folks).

There was a 16 bit DOS version that should run under DOS-BOX, and you can do a lot with the application....If anyone has it, I'd love to experiment with it under DOS-Box in Puppy.
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Nov 2015, 13:35    Post subject:  

Even better, throw together a nice bash program which would do the same...
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Nov 2015, 14:32    Post subject:  

tlchost wrote:
Not trying to hijack the thread...but it seems there may be some folks on the forum that are old enough to remember a CP/M then DOS based flat file database called DataStar(InfoStar) made by MicroPro(The WordStar folks).

There was a 16 bit DOS version that should run under DOS-BOX, and you can do a lot with the application....If anyone has it, I'd love to experiment with it under DOS-Box in Puppy.
Hi tichost!

I don't know about your DataStar/InfoStar, but DataPerfect is still
available! Smile (And I still can't understand any of it!) Sad

BFN.

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Nov 2015, 16:00    Post subject:  

@ tlchost -- try these --

https://winworldpc.com/product/micropro-datastar

...and, for CP/M-80 (3rd link down under "Text")...

http://pcsauro.altervista.org/CPM.PHP

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Nov 2015, 16:44    Post subject:  

starhawk wrote:
@ tlchost -- try these --

https://winworldpc.com/product/micropro-datastar


thanks
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Nov 2015, 11:38    Post subject:  

Hello all.

Here is the basic structure of a CLI database that uses awk. (Run < dos2unix > on
it first, otherwise you'll get errors.) It's to tally students' results, but it can be developed
into any kind of database -- if one has the talent for it.

And look more closely, people, your Puppy already has three DB programs included:

1) gnumeric -- use it to create a 2D sorted list of anything, with as many fields
as you like. You don't need to use a spreadsheet only to do calculations, you know.

2) notecase -- you can create a template for say, a daily organizer with various
hours of the day and perhaps a theme for the day and some comments at the
end of the day, and clone it as "children" for other days.

Both of the above could be used to create templates to inventory collections of any
kind: CD's. movies, books, tools in your shed, flower seeds for your garden, etc.

(Don't forget to save your templates,eh?)

3) For a names and address database, of course, osmo already has one (as
well as seamonkey, if your Puppy comes with the seamonkey browser).

I hope the above will help you with your databasing needs.

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Nov 2015, 12:12    Post subject: the forum has no interest, that is not their cup of tea :)  

Databases are really not a success in Puppy. The reason is not the bad quality of the proposed database, but that the forum has no interest, that is not their cup of tea Smile
I gave up.
I have just a few ones for personal usage, managing my devices as Pendrives and pupsaves inside, and managing my ISO files.
Gnumeric can do everything, Osmo, sqlitemanager, symphytum make database too, in a more complicated way, as MSaccess by Microsoft.

All my life, at the office, i fulfilled databases, where i wrote the work done on everything : aircraft, machines, screws, paints, and time spent doing that. But i had the boss surveying me... and paying my wages.
In Puppy, nobody will pay me for that.
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Old fashioned : An exercise book, a pencil, an eraser, and a pocket calculator

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Nov 2015, 21:49    Post subject:  

Hey, pelo,

Let's go and have a beer together! Very Happy
We'll weep over the lack of interest for databases from our fellow Puppyists!
We know how powerful and useful DB's can be. They don't! We are the wise ones! Wink

Cheers, my friend, cheers!



Then we'll flex our elbows and start a beer database! Very Happy



BFN. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Nov 2015, 23:40    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
Hey, pelo,

Let's go and have a beer together! Very Happy
We'll weep over the lack of interest for databases from our fellow Puppyists!
We know how powerful and useful DB's can be. They don't! We are the wise ones! Wink

You two have not cornered the market on databases....I'm one who really likes them...and fondly remember beta testing dBase III and IV....and then compiling applications with Clipper.

Some of the stuff I did is still in use by non-progressive, luddite business folks.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Nov 2015, 01:59    Post subject:  

tlchost wrote:
musher0 wrote:
Hey, pelo,

Let's go and have a beer together! Very Happy
We'll weep over the lack of interest for databases from our fellow Puppyists!
We know how powerful and useful DB's can be. They don't! We are the wise ones! Wink

You two have not cornered the market on databases....I'm one who really likes them...and fondly remember beta testing dBase III and IV....and then compiling applications with Clipper.

Some of the stuff I did is still in use by non-progressive, luddite business folks.

Hi tichost.

Sorry if I ruffled your feathers. I just wanted to stir up things a little. No harm intended.

So, do you think you could come up with a little DB for Puppy? At least a suggestion?

BFN.

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Nov 2015, 06:33    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:

Sorry if I ruffled your feathers. I just wanted to stir up things a little. No harm intended.

None taken....it's actually nice to see others interested in database stuff

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So, do you think you could come up with a little DB for Puppy? At least a suggestion?


I'd look for things that work under wine and/or DosBox....that would allow use under both Puppy and Windows.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Nov 2015, 08:08    Post subject: Travailler pour le roi de Prusse, je n'aime pas bien..  

Musher0 there is a special Database for brewing beer in the PPM, a really serious one, for real brewers.(brewtarget)
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/brew-setups/61st-and-hydraulic-brewing-co-64.html : the man compiled the database in Ubuntu.
If people don't use available databases, why loose time searching others.
Travailler pour le roi de Prusse, je n'aime pas bien..
Néanmoins, amis canadiens, ce n'est pas çà qui nous empêchera de trinquer à notre santé !
Nevertheless, Canadian friends, it will not prevent us from drinking to our health!

Dbase II : 1985 on a Logabax offered by the boss. I was fond of DBase, and experienced. We were consumable kits for line stations including o'ring, seals, etc... taking account of Military standards, Bac standards (Boeing aircraft). And to survey life time of these consumable all over the world..
And without bragging, i was famous database manager, perhaps the best in my airline. I could have been of some help here. But PUPPY's surgeons discourage me.
Smile The only harware i found to enter in a database with Puppy was my pendrives.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Nov 2015, 08:38    Post subject: Just take a glance at business forum  

Just take a glance at business forum
Softmaker, open Concerto, Planner (Gantt project) sqliteStudio symphytum Osmo Associations sucribers OOo Kexi Libre Office : nobody use them !
Some are easy, some are hard to use, but everybody can find what he needs, excepted somebody to fullfill them,
Fullfilled, a database is a fantastic management tool.
Pet PPDB is available e@nautia here (the gposil one)
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Nov 2015, 11:08    Post subject:  

I guess databases have an image problem. A lot of people think databases
are boring and for bureaucrats only.

Unless of course, it's always possible that Joe and Joanne Public (the
general public) like being disorganized! Very Happy

Just a thought. BFN.

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