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Suggestions for Puppy 2.18
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BigPilot

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sun 20 May 2007, 08:54    Post_subject:  Suggestions for Puppy 2.18  

- Icons: I personally don't like the 2.16 icons. I feel like I'm colorblind looking at them. The 2.13 icons were great, splashy and playfull
- idem for the background which is bland. Sure I can change it but it will make a much better initial impression on people if there's a nice esthetically pleasing background. Note: I do like the new 'Mac' like buttons and scrollbars in 2.16.
- a 'Show Desktop' button just like 2.15CE
- TrueCrypt compiled into the kernel plus OneKript GUI
- the default application icon is an 'X' how about changing it to something more playfull?
- replace Mozilla mail with Sylpheed.
- better usabillity. Puppy does most things great but it would only take a small amount of tweaking to make it truly noob-proof. I've suggested a better HD installer in another post. Networking support could be better too by simply loading the module for a detected network card and connecting automatically via DHCP, for example.
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wdef

Joined: 13 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Sun 20 May 2007, 10:11    Post_subject:  

Add the shred utility from util-linux. This must be the only distro in existence that doesn't have it.
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wdef

Joined: 13 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Sun 20 May 2007, 13:23    Post_subject:  

Also: please add the 8th loop device. There's no reason it should be missing?

# mknod /dev/loop7 b: 7 7
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Wolf Pup

Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sun 20 May 2007, 13:34    Post_subject:  

RutilTv0.14 is released a while back
tktris only 10k compressed

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willhunt


Joined: 05 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Sun 20 May 2007, 14:12    Post_subject:  

BigPilot I hope this helps Smile

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Icons: I personally don't like the 2.16 icons. I feel like I'm colorblind looking at them. The 2.13 icons were great, splashy and playfull

really you can change this anytime by just copying the old icons over I think even the names are the same so just overwrite them
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idem for the background which is bland. Sure I can change it but it will make a much better initial impression on people if there's a nice esthetically pleasing background. Note: I do like the new 'Mac' like buttons and scrollbars in 2.16.

you can dload some really Great puppy papers at puppylinux.org
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- a 'Show Desktop' button just like 2.15CE

you can turn this on very easy just edit the file found at /root/.icewm/preferences
search for
# Show 'show desktop' button on taskbar
TaskBarShowShowDesktopButton=0 # 0/1
change it to a 1
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TrueCrypt compiled into the kernel plus OneKript GUI

you can patch the kernel I belive the prepatched kernel source is availabe as a sfs file here
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- the default application icon is an 'X' how about changing it to something more playfull?

I belive you can change this by changing these Icons /root/.icewm/icons/app_16x16 /root/.icewm/icons/app_32x32
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replace Mozilla mail with Sylpheed

try the package at http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups/Internet/thunderbird%20-1.5.0.10.pup

and now you don't have to wait Cool
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BigPilot

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sun 20 May 2007, 23:17    Post_subject:  

Thx, I know I can change this (and I have) but it would make a much better impression if it's esthetically pleasing right out of the box.

All in all, I would like the esthetics improved. I know it's a personal thing but I have to say that Microsoft got at least that right with Windows.
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pupshock

Joined: 23 Mar 2007
Posts: 140

PostPosted: Fri 25 May 2007, 08:16    Post_subject:  

slow down the releases, the puppies are breeding too fast!
Some users cant even remember which version they're using.
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joki

Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Posts: 79

PostPosted: Sun 27 May 2007, 15:20    Post_subject:  

implement the windows key and some common shortcuts to help windoze deserters and mouse haters. eg
win key on its own brings up the 'start menu', with M minimises all apps etc...

for frugal installs, allow all necessary files (vmlinuz, initrd.gz, pup_218.sfs, zdrv_218.sfs, pup_save.2fs, plus other downloaded sfss) to reside in a puppy version folder
(eg kernel parameter PHOME=/pup218 )
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bugman


Joined: 20 Dec 2005
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Location: buffalo commons

PostPosted: Sun 27 May 2007, 16:02    Post_subject:  

I'd like to see Puppy go back to smaller programs (Sylpheed instead of whatever the Mozilla/Firefox email app is called, etc.) by default, with the option to download bloatware later and separately. Internetbloat.sfs, officebloat.sfs, graphbloat.sfs, mediabloat.sfs, anon.

Oh, and less of them. I'm not sure about the version I'm using, but I remember being utterly bewildered by the profusion of calculators and vector graphics editors in my first Puppy. Pick one good one and throw the rest into an sfs.

Just because DSL is ugly as sin and has a useless spreadsheet app and non-functional setup wizard doesn't mean Puppy should give up on small and simple!
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Béèm


Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win

PostPosted: Sun 27 May 2007, 16:27    Post_subject:  

The conclusion of this thread up to now for me is:
You can't please everybody.
Some like this others that.
Some like smaller distro's others want every thing in there.

I think it's time to bring out a modular approach and have people build the functionality they want at boot time or having it prepared before a next boot. f.e. the bootmanager is already something interesting in this aspect.
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John Doe

Joined: 01 Aug 2005
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Location: Michigan, US

PostPosted: Sun 27 May 2007, 16:49    Post_subject:  

joki wrote:
implement the windows key and some common shortcuts to help windoze deserters and mouse haters. eg
win key on its own brings up the 'start menu', with M minimises all apps etc...


D actually:

D-Desktop
E-Explorer
R-Run
F-Find
L-Lock

I loooked into it with Rox Key binding, but I don't know what the key's name is or if they even implement it.
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Flash
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PostPosted: Sun 27 May 2007, 19:13    Post_subject:  

Béèm wrote:
...I think it's time to bring out a modular approach and have people build the functionality they want at boot time or having it prepared before a next boot. f.e. the bootmanager is already something interesting in this aspect.

Beem, I think you can already do what you describe. I think Barry addressed this same subject recently in another thread. If I remember what he said correctly, you can basically assemble your own custom Puppy from Puppy Unleashed. The disadvantage of doing it that way is that Puppy Unleashed is a much larger download than the standard Puppy ISO. Only a fraction of the total available software in Unleashed will be used to make up a custom Puppy. Someone has to pay for all that wasted bandwidth. Of course, you can order an Unleashed CD from Barry. Smile

It would be cool if you could choose the applications you want from a menu, and the server would put together a custom Puppy ISO for you to download. Cool

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GuestToo
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Joined: 04 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sun 27 May 2007, 19:37    Post_subject:  

well, it might be better if you picked the packages in a program running locally on your own machine, and the program downloaded the necessary packages and assembled them on your own machine ... that is, it might be better if your own machine does the work, rather than the server
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Béèm


Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Sun 27 May 2007, 20:19    Post_subject:  

I think my idea is misunderstood.
I don't need a large download like unleashed, on the contrary.
I am thinking of a basic distribution to which by prepared sfs files and the boot manager (very nice idea) you prepare to load the next boot.

f.e. right now I have prepared to load at boot office-2.2.0.sfs and a wine-0.9.28 ready. (hope a wine-0.9.35.sfs will be made later)

So I don't need the puppy-seamonkey.iso, but a puppy.iso and a seamonkey-1.1.1.sfs (f.e.) and for those wanting other ones a opera-x.x.sfs, a firefox/thunderbird.x.x.sfs etc....

Another benefit is, that newer releases of a product could come quicker to the users. f.e. right now SeaMonkey is still at 1.08, while the 1.1.1 (with spell checking) is out a certain time already.

A devx.sfs for compiling.

And in case more then 3 sfs files are needed that utility to combine sfs files (sorry can't remember for the moment who developed it).

So just a couple of sfs files are needed to cover quite some fields and everybody picks his poison to download. Not a big unleashed one thus.

I hope I made myself more clear now, or else shoot me. Wink
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d4p


Joined: 12 Mar 2007
Posts: 407

PostPosted: Sun 27 May 2007, 22:36    Post_subject:  

Puppy 2.xx look very good.
I guess we need a solid working Puppy: more support for scanner, cam, tv card, network, printer etc.
I've tried so many linux distros, but non can completely replace xp system. Sorry to say that, but I like Puppy the most.
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