(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

GuestToo wrote:Alienx, you made a giftui dotpup ...

it was a prototype, I think you could do a more interesting one

GuestToo wrote:
bash works ok on my Puppy (i'm running it now) ... i have a line in rc.local that copies it from /root to /bin/sh ... i compiled 3 versions, 2.05b, 2.05b with a appdir patch (bash finds and executes a rox-app-dir as if it is an executable file), and 3.0

the really really nice thing about bash is it's history

anxiously awaiting

I thought xboard had to be used as an interface to gnuchess, so gnuchess is needed anyway...

And on the subject ... http://eboard.sourceforge.net/index.html seems to be nicer than xboard.

Cheers
JohnM

JohnMurga wrote:I thought xboard had to be used as an interface to gnuchess, so gnuchess is needed anyway...

And on the subject ... http://eboard.sourceforge.net/index.html seems to be nicer than xboard.

Cheers
JohnM

No, you can run xboard and gnuchess separately. Without chess engine, xboard is just animated chessboard that can disallow illegal moves, set timers, etc, but cant play chess. One could use it to try out moves, etc or play game with another human. GnuChess run alone is a commandline chess program that will give moves in chess notation. You have to be able to translate the notation however and tell it the move you made in same notation. If using combination, Xboard starts GnuChess (or one of other available engines) and interprets allowing you to play against GnuChess (or other engines) in gui mode.

Xboard is old and long in the tooth. Not very attractive board/pieces and apparently difficult to significantly upgrade or I'm sure somebody would have made it more attractive, but it still works. I just took quick look at Eboard, looks promising. Seems like developement is stalled on it though due to developer's lack of time. One of those things about open source freeware. More or less a hobby or school project (especially small projects by an individual). Not necessarily developed very fully or maintained though good and worthy ideas. Fact of life that activities generating income rank higher in priority for most of us. I am very happy that Barry seems to find time to develope Puppy and at breakneck speed compared to many such projects. I have to wonder if he ever gets any sleep.

Eboard 0.9.0

this will download and install a 1.5 meg rpm package

installs in my-applications/eboard
installs an icon in my-roxapps
(drag to desktop, right click for Help, to uninstall, etc etc)

you can use this to play GnuChess (GnuChess must be installed seperately ... see:
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=18&start=10

Not tested:
Eboard can to connect to other computers running Eboard
Eboard can connect to FICS servers to play chess online

Edit:

version 2 ... fixes a bug with sound configuration
version 3 ... works with newer busybox's md5sum

Thanks !

GuestToo, you are a God

Note the change in your status.

Cheers
JohnM

Thanks to GuestToo, I went ahead and downloaded Eboard and tried it with GnuChess. Its the better mousetrap over Xboard. Much easier to configure without going and looking over long list of commandline options. Its good enough, I'm surprised it isnt just included with at least the bloat distributions. Yet I hadnt even heard of it until JM mentioned it.

there's a small bug in my Eboard installer

Puppy's sound plays one thing at a time, and if something is using the sound system, like gxine or xmms or mplayer, it puts the sounds in a queue ... and plays them all later, when the sound system is free again

it used to work that way anyway

i tried a little script that doesn't play the chess sound if the sound was busy ... but i forgot about it ... so my config file is set to use a program called wavplay2 ... but i didn't include wavplay2 in my package ... so the sound doesn't work when you use my config file

easy to fix, but i should think about this, maybe try a few experiments

in the mean time, if you want the sound to work, you can right click the Eboard icon and select Set Default Configuration, and edit /root/.eboard/eboard.conf and change all the wavplay2's to wavplay ... or set up the sound yourself in Settings

I didnt activate sound option so didnt even notice. Isnt sound in a chess game bit of gilding the lily. I mean I like sound with pinball and think it adds to the game, but chess? Thats kinda like adding sound to solitare. Or that silly windows program that makes every keystoke sound like it was made on a manual typewriter.

i think the Eboard sound works ok now

to fix it you can download the same installer file ... eboard.pup ... and run it (you don't have to download the other 1.5 meg file ... just click eboard.pup and it's fixed)

it might be useful having a sound play when GnuChess makes a move so you know when it's time for your move

if you right click the Eboard icon and click Set Default Configuration, it will overwrite the config file with my config file, which has the sound enabled

Aumix 2.8

This puts an Aumix icon in my-roxapps
click the icon to run Aumix
drag the icon to the desktop if you want a shortcut
right click the icon to uninstall Aumix

If you are using Icewm, then Aumix should have a systray icon
click the systray icon to show Aumix, click to hide Aumix
also, you can change the volume by holding ctrl+alt and pressing * and / on the number keypad

Aterm 0.4.2

installs aterm in my-applications/bin
installs an Aterm icon in my-roxapps
- drag to desktop
- click to run
- right click to uninstall
- right click to change colours

Screenshot: http://tinypic.com/546jkg

[Edit: ver 0.0.2 ... fixes Home, End keys]

Downloader for Puppy Unleashed 1.0.2 - ver 0.0.2

edit: 24/08/2006 attachment deleted

[edit: new bug fix version]

this version also downloads and runs expandtarballs.sh

this puts a downloader program in my-documents
copy it to the dir you want to download Unleashed to
click it to download Unleashed

downloads all the files automatically
checks the md5sums so you are sure it downloaded ok

(actually, you would be sure that the files you download are identical to the files i have on my drive ... which may not be what Barry has on his drive ... an official md5sum file for the packages would be nice)

basically, just click the program to download Unleashed

Dotpups seem to appear in the last directory I saved to - as they are going to be deleted should they not appear and dissapear in my-roxapps by default?

Dotpups seem to be one of the most popular pup features and I am glad to see that they will be eventually integrated into Puppy and the Pupget installer.

I tried to install hbasic and gambas (no problem with xbasic) on my system and just know it should be a dotpup away . . .

The problem is Hbasic needs the troltech QT - so may not be suitable for Puppy?

My feeling is the Shell is a kind of Basic programming without a GUI front end
and [better stop before completely off topic]

most normal non-Crustaceans would probably download the dotpup file somewhere, maybe my-documents, and click it

after it's finished, they can delete it, where ever it is, or they might keep it to reinstall later ... or because clicking the dotpup again often uninstalls it

you can also Open With rox and run the dotpup directly from the internet, instead of downloading it (well, it gets downloaded to /tmp)

Top for Puppy 1.0.2

Busybox's top doesn't seem to work with the 2.6 kernel

this installs top in /usr/bin
(this package does not register with PupGet, so if you upgrade, the top should be automatically uninstalled)
it also installs a library file (libproc.so) in my-applications/lib

Zsh 4.2.5 shell

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/shells/zsh-static

TrueCurve Theme for Icewm

based on the BlueCurve Metacity RedHat 8.0 theme

the theme should show up in the themes menu immediately after installing

TrueCurve-Aqua Theme for Icewm

TrueCurve theme with Aqua style buttons

the theme should show up in the themes menu immediately after installing

undeb, unrpm - package extraction utilities

2 command line utilities that can extract the files from rpm and deb packages

Puppy has dpkg-deb, but it doesn't seem to work properly
so this puts a dpkg-deb binary in my-applicaions/bin, renamed to dpkg-deb2

useage:

unrpm file.rpm
undeb file.deb

(Edit: this version of unrpm uses busybox's rpm2cpio, which sometimes does not work ... the full version of unrpm should work if this one does not)

I feel that this is quite important but am not quite sure . . .?

Does this enable us to instigate a testing program for the huge file depository of rpm and debian files for possible inclusion in pupget?

Perhaps we should start a wiki page of packages known to work under Puppy?

Thanks GuestToo