Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[GuestToo]

you probably still have rox opening the pinboard with the -o option ... if you read readme.txt, it tells you to edit .xinitrc
if you right click the ROX-Filer icon, you can choose to edit .xinitrc

version 0.0.2 of my installer automatically edits .xinitrc for you
it also fixes a problem in registering with pupget

part of the extra size comes from the shared-mime-info package

there are over 1 meg of language files

and about 300k of icons

[Lobster]

[Lobster]

OK I survived [groans from all the fish]

The -o (when I booted seems to have been automated - so went straight into the desktop again . . . (did read something in the readme files about this . . .)

Running Pupget - I see that ROX 2.20 is now a Pupget . . .
see enclosed mtsnapshot [reminder: use mtsnapshot, draw box around selected area, press delete, resize canvas and sharpen if required - I did]

This must be a new breed.
Well I knew they were set to merge . . . (our two package installers - pupget and dotpup)

Does this mean that if I uninstall Rox 2.20 I am left with the standard Rox?

I would try it but I have some frisking to do . . .

PS. A package manager? Wassat? Somebody who works in a mail room? "Program installer" - does that make more sense to Grandma Maude (generic user)?

[BarryK]

Ah, yes, that's a problem. PupGet only has a little brain ...sees an alien package with same name as one on the live-cd, so decides it is best to uninstall the alien package!

If I recall rightly, PupGet compares package names to the left of the "-", so PupGet would think it is a clash if the live-cd has say beaver-1.0 and there is an alien package beaver-2.0.
I think the way around this, ...well, one way anyway, would be to name the alien package beaver2-2.0.

[dvw86]

Couple of things I noticed were that it is much longer to restart the pinboard. This makes it very noticable when using the trash can. Also if click on a .tcl app it opens it in Beaver instead of launching the app. At least that is what happens with MUT. If I use a wrapper script it works fine.

[GuestToo]

the newer rox uses a different system for mime properties ... shared-mime-info (a gnome thing) is in /root/.local/share/mime and is about 1.5 megs ... it controls what mime types there are, and the mime types are sightly different ... what a mime type does is still contolled by a file in /root/Choices/MIME-types

i did setup some of the mime types, but some have probably been changed ... and i won't know which ones need setting except by trying each one

actually, i had to decide a few things, like whether i would include any config files in my package ... if you leave them out, the package works ok, but many of the rox options need to be setup to work properly, and it doesn't look good when it first starts, with no wallpaper etc etc ... i tried setting it up nicely, and replacing your Choices with my Choices, but it made the package bigger than 1 meg

i compromised by including some config files in Choices, and putting a copy-my-old-pinboard-file in the menu

as far as the mime settings, that is often a personal choice ... the package should probably be setup to have the same mime settings as a standard Puppy ... it will take a while to find all the mime settings that need setting

Puppy's rox is the latest version that does not use shared-mime-info ... the newer rox has some nice features, like recently changed files are shown with bold text, and the permissions window is convenient ... and the newer rox is prettier ... the older rox seems to be adequate for most purposes

[Alienx]

[flamesage]

Yeah, I keep on getting stuck with this stupid seagull as my background, and also it wiped my desktop clean. =(

[GuestToo]

[flamesage]

Would there be any way in the next verson you could include some sort of script, that would download the new update, and automaticly reboot and run the update for you?

Since my CD Burner seems not to place nice with puppy, I have to find an outside computer, burn a disk, and bring it back home...

[NVM Just found the backdrop]

[EDIT: is there anyway to change the font color on your desktop? My background clashes with the black letters.]

[GuestToo]

you can set the fonts in rox options in the pinboard section
it's a little different from the older version of rox

if you have Puppy installed on your hard drive (option 1)
it's easy to download the latest iso and update your Puppy

basically, something like,

wget url-4-puppy.iso
wget url-4-puppy.iso.txt
md5sum -c puppy.iso.txt
mount -o loop puppy.iso /mnt/data
cp /mnt/data/vmlinuz /mnt/home/
cp /mnt/data/image.gz /mnt/home/
cp /mnt/data/usr_cram.fs /mnt/home/

then reboot

[flamesage]

wow.... would have helped to know that.
If I want to update to the new version (I still havn't) would it erase my new rox update?
Or anything else?

[BarryK]

[GuestToo]

i'm not sure you can change what font rox uses
(you can specify the fonts the newer rox uses)

you can change the fonts colours, and whether there is a background slab ... that's what i was referring to

i guess it uses the default gtk-1 text font ... maybe changing the gtk-1 theme would change the font it uses ... maybe the fonts could be set in an app-defaults file

[puppian]

I like the new Rox. The font, the icons, the new dialogue box, the iconified windows... I just love it. Thanks!

And how can I set keyboard shortcuts? Options -> Menus -> Set Keyboard Shortcuts doesn't allow me to do so. Or should I edit /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/menus ?

Btw, when you upload the new rox dotpup, maybe you can upload two versions: 1. with everything; 2. the small one without the language files. This way everybody only needs to download one file.