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wow · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 950

[Click here to read the instructions for NVIDIA cards(AGP)]

WARNING: Backup your pup_save.2fs file before do anything. Yep, your pup_save file. These updates are not recommended for full HD installs, unless you know how to restore the system. Continue at your own risk Twisted Evil

Beryl official site

http://www.beryl-project.org/
Beryl FAQ

http://www.beryl-project.org/faq.php
Beryl on Puppy

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=16427
Features

http://www.beryl-project.org/features.php

Finally, after some weeks of not intensive tests I got all the packages required to install and run Beryl not only on PC's with nVidia graphic cards.

Instructions for ATI and Intel GPUs:

System Requirements:

Hardware:

Quote:

Beryl runs acceptably well on a GeForce 3/i855/Radeon 7500, 256MB of RAM, and a 1.2GHz processor. It also works best with Xorg 7.1 and requires a recent version of Mesa.

If you want a more optimistic review, please read: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/node/1797

Software:

Updates, dependencies required and instructions:

Fix for Emerald

[read more]

Code:

export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1

X11R7.2 [read more]
- [Pack]x11-7.2-i486.pup
Exit X and run x11upgrade(don't run x11upgrade in a terminal window, you must exit to the prompt)

SVG support on Puppy: [read more]
Install everything in this order.
1. libcroco-0.6.1.pup
2. librsvg-2.14.1.pup
3. cairo-1.4.0[svg].pup

Mesa-6.5.2 [read more]
Download and install these files for x11r7.2:
- mesa-6.5.2.pup
- mesa-6.5.2-xdemos-glxinfo.pup
- mesa-6.5.2-dri.pup
- drm-02Jul07-k2.6.18.1.tar.gz

Extract [drm-02Jul07-k2.6.18.1.tar.gz] to / and run this command:

Code:

depmod -aq

Then create a symlink with this command

Code:

ln -s /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/dri/ /usr/X11R7/lib/

Now modify the xorg.conf file localizated on /etc/X11 then edit the Section "Module" as show above:
Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf as show above:

Code:

Section "Module"
# This loads the DBE extension module.
# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
# This loads the font modules
Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
# This loads the GLX module
Load "glx"
Load "dri" # This enables the Direct Rendering
# This loads xtrap extension, used by xrandr
Load "xtrap"
EndSection

Add the following lines at the end of /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

Code:

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

Edit: To avoid "screen garbage/weird colors/unrefreshed windows" add this to the "device" section of xorg.conf[tested by Pizzasgood]:

Code:

Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"

And RESTART X. Check with glxinfo if your card has direct rendering activated, open a terminal window and run glxinfo

Code:

display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes

Python-2.5 and py* dependencies for beryl-settings and beryl-settings-simple [read more]
- Python-2.5.pup
- pycairo-1.2.6.pup
- pygtk-2.8.6.pup
- pyrex-0.9.5.1a.pup

More Beryl & Emerald dependencies:
- startup-notification-0.8.pup
- libwnck-2.16.1
- xdpyinfo.pup
- glitz-0.5.6.pup

[Pack]Beryl-i686.pup(All in one) Wink

Contents:
beryl-core-0.2.1 beryl-manager-0.2.1 beryl-plugins-0.2.1 beryl-plugins-unsupported-0.2.1 beryl-settings-0.2.1 beryl-settings-bindings-0.2.1 beryl-settings-simple-0.2.1 emerald-0.2.1 emerald-themes-0.2.1

[Pack]Beryl-i686-locale.pup(Optional languages)
i18n translations:
ar_AR ca cs de_DE en_GB es es_AR es_ES fr fr_FR gl_ES gl_GL gu_IN hu hu_HU it it_IT ja ko ko_KR my_MY nb_NO nl pl pl_PL pt_BR pt_PT ru ru_RU sk_SK sv_FI sv_SE tr_TR uk_UA zh_CN zh_HK zh_TW

Notes and extra stuff:

There’s nothing NEW in the 0.2.1 release

Beryl autostart for KDE

by orbisvicis

Downloads:

Known issues:

Usage:

Screenshots:

Links:

Video capture plugin for Beryl

Beryl on Puppy(now testing, only for nvidia gfx cards.):

Good luck.

wow · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 950

First post updated.

Lobster · Posted: Tue 01 May 2007, 01:43 Post subject:

Thanks Wow
Anyone able to simplify and step by step?

Please do so here
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BerylUsage

disciple · Posted: Tue 01 May 2007, 04:30 Post subject: "These Romans are crazy"

I'm just wondering... what is the point of it?

Lobster · Posted: Tue 01 May 2007, 08:45 Post subject:

For you there is none. Don't use it. I remember a DEC user who was unconvinced a mouse had a point . . . Everything can be done from the CLI . . .

m m m . . . picopup

For those interested. It points to future ways of arranging, displaying, accessing and manipulating data and desktop information. What is really needed is screens that are x6 as big . . .

disciple · Posted: Tue 01 May 2007, 20:52 Post subject:

Wish I was that competent with the command line Wink

Its just that that sort of thing seems to make things more complicated - sort of the opposite of Puppy (and the mouse!).

I'm not complaining - the more crazy things people do with Puppy the better - I was just wondering if people actually find it useful, or just use it because it looks cool.

Pizzasgood · Posted: Tue 01 May 2007, 21:46 Post subject:

Looking cool is a good use for something. Smile

I was playing with this today, but I couldn't get it to work all the way. For one thing, when I'm using it the guts of a window freeze up. I can still "use" them, but I can't see what I'm doing unless I roll-up then roll-down the window after every interaction. I tried messing with the settings that pop up when you run beryl-manager, but the only thing that did anything was when I used "force nvidia". That made the guts update, but then everything would get garbled looking very quickly (I'm using an ATI card w/ radeon driver, so that makes sense). EDIT: The same effect happens when I change the render path to copy.

The only error message I got was something about not finding a videomode 0x4d, but some googling made it look like that's an insignificant error.

Also, just so it's clear, I can move windows around and spin the cube. It's just that the guts of a window don't (visually) update until I either restart beryl or roll-up&down the window.

Also, I can't run the bery-settings. It complains like this:

Lobster · Posted: Wed 02 May 2007, 00:18 Post subject:

John Doe · Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 1689 Location: Michigan, US

Pizzasgood · Posted: Wed 02 May 2007, 11:03 Post subject:

An update on my situation: I tried installing Beryl on a blank save-file. I've got nearly the same problem, except now the settings app works. Which is great because I can tweak stuff now. Also, this savefile hasn't had several failed attempts at installing XFCE on it, so I don't get the GTK errors.

I've also noticed that resizing an app will refresh it's display. Even better, with some apps it will actually revive the display, allowing me to use them normally. It seems to be most successful with GTK things. Firefox, Geany, and the beryl-settings app all behave this way (broken until a resize). RXVT, on the other hand, stays messed up, so I have to continuously resize it or roll it up and down to make it useful.

The rest of Beryl works fine. I played with the close and minimize animations, and that flame thing is much better than it looks on a screenshot. You have to see it in action. And the snow thing is way past cool.

As for the wiggly windows, it's pretty strange at first, but you do get used to it. When I left Beryl for IceWM yesterday, it felt really strange for the window to not deform when I moved it.

The cube feature (note, not limited to cube) is also pretty nifty. You can configure the "sky" not not be black. Currently I'm using the default sky-box, which is kind of an afternoon looking blue-to-yellow gradient.

The "zoom-out" thing is nice too.

Also, there is a "zoom-in" feature. Hold "super" (windows-key) and scroll the mouse wheel. That could be nice if you have poor vision or really high resolution.

I originally thought of Beryl as a gimmick. I wanted to install it so I could see what it was like, but I figured it would run too slow to be useful. It actually runs pretty well on my computer (I'm so used to my old secondhand machine that I chronically underestimate this one). I like it enough that if I can get the window guts working I might stick with it. At least until I break it anyway. Then I'll crawl back to IceWM like I always do Rolling Eyes

EDIT: Odd. If I resize a terminal window enough times, it comes to life too. It's more iffy to get working than GTK windows though.

jam · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 245

Pizzasgood,

Are you planning on integrating Beryl into a future release of PizzaPup? Real-life applications for this technology include:

- Video production
- Engineering
- Mathematical modeling
- Trading
- Gaming
- System Monitoring

...and more.

Besides the special effects, it does have pratical use. Add to that the fact that you can get this and the entire OS to run strictly in RAM and you add real value to the way it can be applied. Nice work on getting it to work on Puppy. It definitely poses a technical challenge!

Pizzasgood · Posted: Wed 02 May 2007, 13:46 Post subject:

If I did, it would probably be part of a deluxe version due to all the dependencies. My goal is to keep the standard Pizzapup two digits in size (decimal digits). But if I made a deluxe version with Beryl, I could also throw in Blender since I'd have to include OpenGL, graphics drivers, and Python anyway.

wow · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 950

Pizzasgood · Posted: Wed 02 May 2007, 23:21 Post subject:

Neither of those options worked, but I found something else that did. I couldn't think of how to search for it before, since it's hard to describe in ways that a search engine will help. But I decided to just type in "ati" and "resize" at the Beryl forum search, and waded through some of the results. Most were for the reverse problem, a broken Emerald. But I eventually found something that matched. It said to add this to the "device" section of xorg.conf:
Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
So, I did that, and Success!!! Mr. Green

Also, for the adventurous, it is not necessary to install XFCE or KDE. What I'm doing instead is a trick I learned a long time ago. Exit to the commandline and type xwin rxvt and hit enter. You'll load into X as usual, but with an RXVT window on the screen and no windowmanager. From there you can run anything you normally could, just with no window-manager functions (stuff cannot be moved or minimized and whatnot).

So, I did that and ran beryl-manager. Now, when I do that I have to open another window too. If I don't have at least two windows open, stuff doesn't work right. But this way I don't need anything fancy.

So, next on my list is getting the XFCE panel running again. Between that and Beryl, I ought to be a very happy hacker.

One more nice feature I forgot to mention is that you can easily invert the colors of individual apps or even the whole thing. Just use super+n or super+m, respectively. Very nice when I have to keep the lights off so my roommate can sleep. Not only does it not hurt my eyes, but it shines less light at him. And it's fast and easy to do, and works on an app by app basis (I set my normal RXVT windows to black, so inverting them would reverse that). Plus it just plain looks cool.

I'm tempted to play with it more now that it's fully working, but I need to sleep now for my Calc III exam in the morning. Fortunately, anything higher than a 66% will result in an A for the semester. Much better than last semester, when I pretty much needed a 100% to get an A. Of course, both of those numbers are without taking into account a curve, which as I discovered can be quite beneficial Smile

Anyways, better go sleep.

wow · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 950

@Pizzasgood
Thank you for the useful info. Smile