How to set up an internet connection with router? SOLVED

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How to set up an internet connection with router? SOLVED

#1 Post by oblivious »

I am new to Linux and Puppy (I downloaded Chubby Puppy) and I don't have a clue. I tried the instructions in the manual but that didn't work and I don't even know if that is what to do if you have a router.... I am getting a bit discouraged with trying to use Puppy. Could anybody point me to the instructions for what exactly I need to do? Part of the problem I have with this is that I don't know what the ethernet card does, the program connection settings do and the settings for the router do.... Thanks if you can help.
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#2 Post by Rickrandom »

I think Chubby Puppy is couple of years old now, so it might be that you are trying to use newer instructions that are not relevant. Puppy is a rapidly growing, although always a Puppy!

I haven't used Chubby Puppy, but other Puppy versions I have used have an internet connection wizard (or network connection wizard) on a sub-menu of the main menu. There are typically 4 or so buttons, so start with the top one, which will look for drivers for your network card, and so on, for each button. (I accept the Autoconnect options when pressing one of the buttons.)

You don't say whether you have Puppy working, at least in terms of the basic booting up and running of applications, or what sort of router you have and how it is set up.

Does the router work with other computers, or is it unproven?

Can you boot Windows on the same PC and connect to the internet via the router?

Can you boot Windows on a different PC and connect to the internet via the router?

Are you using a LAN cable or using USB or trying to connect wirelessly?

For the router I have, I simply type in an internet address something like 192.168.2.1 (in the instruction manual) in a browser, and do a very straightforward set-up in a browswer window, so could do this under any operating system. I think all I had to do was put in my ISP username and password, and leave everything else as default.

You should not need to change the router settings once it is working, whatever OS you run, so if it's easier to get it working under Windows, do so. Then move on to Puppy.

It might seem unhlepful of me to ask you questions when you want answers, but more information will help others to help you.

Bruce B

#3 Post by Bruce B »

oblivious, I sympathize with your frustration

my experience with computers is: persistence pays

The first step in the process is to find the Network Wizard, and use it. Puppy doesn't automatically setup your network. I have no idea if you've even done the Network Wizard.

If you have and it still doesn't work. Please post and be prepared to answer some basic questions. Because it is hard for us to divine exactly what you are dealing with. In other words, for me to help you, I have to have a reasonable facsimile of your setup in my mind, which I don't and I can't at this point.

Wishing you every success

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#4 Post by oblivious »

Ok - more info.... I only got Chubby Puppy because the links on the creator's site didn't work, and I got it from a different site (the info said it was basically the same, but has OpenOffice instead of another ...). If this isn't the pick of the litter, I am happy to get the "right" puppy that corresponds to the manual (but there are bits missing from the manual I found anyway??)

The router (Siemens Speedstream 4200) works with windows on this computer. Never tried it on another computer. It is hooked up with the ethernet cable that came with it. I only got broadband a month ago. I was told what to put into the settings by the ISP. I was getting firewall warnings and I queried the settings. I was then told to change the settings in the windows "network connection" part (the settings in the router settings and the settings in windows don't seem to me to match up now....) The settings were changed to disable DHCP and the 2 DNS server numbers were put in. In the router settings it looks to me like it thinks it has DHCP...

I get Puppy working to where the menu screen comes up - I haven't tried running any applications, I was hoping to get onto the internet first (that's about all I do on this computer, anyway). When I click on the icons, things open, so I guess everything is ok. (I'm only doing it from cd, so from what I can gather I can't save anything until I set something else up, or put it on the hard drive).

What I did was "ifconfig", look for eth0, bring it up, then open the roaring penguin thing under the "network" option on the menu, put in my username and other info. Then I found another option under setup to configure the eth0 thing. I tried putting in the info I know from the "ipconfig" thing in windows.....
:cry:

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#5 Post by HairyWill »

If you are connected to a router via ethernet that works on windows I don't think you need to use roaring penguin.

I've never used chubby but my guess is that you need to use something like a wired network wizard which you can probably get to via the menu - setup.
First this will need to detect your network card
then you can probably have options to try dhcp or enter your network details manually. before trying manual I'd give the dhcp a go even if it didn't work on windows.
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#6 Post by oblivious »

Thanks
If you are connected to a router via ethernet that works on windows I don't think you need to use roaring penguin.
So is the roaring penguin like a dialler?
I've never used chubby but my guess is that you need to use something like a wired network wizard which you can probably get to via the menu - setup.
I suspect this is the setup option which gives places to enter the IP address, DNS etc. But how does it get connected up? On windows I can "enable" and "disable" the "LAN connection" (which I understand is the connection between my computer and the router) and that then connects to the ISP.
I'd give the dhcp a go even if it didn't work on windows.
Well, it worked in that it connected but I was told to change it......

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#7 Post by HairyWill »

oblivious wrote:So is the roaring penguin like a dialler?
searching the web for "roaring penguin" got me this
Dubbed RP-PPPoE, this open-source product is ideal for Linux users with a DSL "modem" whose Internet service provider uses PPPoE. Before you download this software, check whether or not you really need it. If your ISP uses PPPoE, but has given you a router, you may not need a PPPoE client on your Linux box. DHCP may work fine.
from
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/en/pengui ... ts/rpPppoe
oblivious wrote:But how does it get connected up? On windows I can "enable" and "disable" the "LAN connection" (which I understand is the connection between my computer and the router) and that then connects to the ISP.
Once you have configured the network, the connection will be up if you do need to disable it for some reason, you can use the command "ifconfig eth0 down" and then "ifconfig eth0 up" replacing eth0 with the name of your network interface.
oblivious wrote:Well, it worked in that it connected but I was told to change it......
I can't really comment on this as I don't know why you were told to change it

Just give it a go, I'm sure we can get it working and if not I'll give you a full refund of my fee :-)
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#8 Post by oblivious »

If this is posted, then I'm connected :D How do I get the whole page of the Mozilla browser to show, and not have to page right to see the right hand side? (Reducing the view size doesn't seem to do anything)

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#9 Post by HairyWill »

I'm glad its working.
Welcome to the kennels.
I don't have an answer to your web browser problem though I have seen comments and solutions for similar issues recently. If you don't find a solution I'd try opening a new thread, your screen resolution may be important.
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#10 Post by oblivious »

Welcome to the kennels.
Woof?
Thanks, I'll see if I can find info to figure out how to cure the browser window thing.

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#11 Post by Rickrandom »

Well done!

A few words of explanation on how you did it may be of help to other users, and also perhaps put (Solved) in the main subject.

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#12 Post by oblivious »

A few words of explanation on how you did it may be of help to other users, and also perhaps put (Solved) in the main subject.
I just entered my server and gateway numbers etc in the "Network ADSL" wizard under the setup option in the Start menu and opened the browser and entered an address. The Roaring Penguin wasn't the right thing to be doing.
Thanks everyone for helping me.

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