Puppy 2.15CE RC2 Standard Edition Plus

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davec51 · #16 Post by **davec51** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 15:37

WhoDo wrote:
davec51 wrote:OK, I downloaded the iso's and extracted the sfs files, put them in the root of my hd, where my save file resides. Nothing happened.
I'm feeling helpless and hopeless. Could someone give me Dummy instructions?
Thanks.
Go to /usr/local/bin and drag swriter, scalc and simpress links to the desktop. All the other apps are linked from that directory too. The menu system isn't updating properly at the moment. I'll sort that out with Nathan and Pizzasgood before Final is released.

In the meantime, the office apps are there, the graphics apps are there and the web apps are there; you just need to know where to look. Typing the app name in a console works, too.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for the dozenth time, WhoDo. Before it worked, I had to put the xxx.sfs.bin files into my hd root and (this is the tricky part) rename them to remove the .bin part. Then it's perfect. OO loads, by the way, faster than from Windows.
Once again, WhoDo, you do the voodoo that you do so well.

Scoticus · #17 Post by **Scoticus** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 16:18

I liked the look of what was on offer but find that when I burn the ISO to disk I end up with error message when closing / rebooting. I am using multisession disk as it lets me experiment with what I am looking for.

davec51 remarks about sfs files has me confused.

Can someone please advise me where I am going wrong

Many Thanks

Ian

Jactek · #18 Post by **Jactek** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 16:28

Im having a heck of a time downloading the RC2 ISO
yesterday I tryed to down load 4 times and it kept coming up short anywhere from 4419k to 111meg. I was using rc1 yesterday witha save file on the HD and I tryed with Teen Pup this morning running on CD multi session but no luck I have DSL , AMD AthalonXP 2200+ 512 meg ram 8 gig swap.

Jim

#19 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 18:06

To get the menus working, just open a terminal and run fixmenus then restart the windowmanager. Presto, you should have menu entries.

Sit Heel Speak · #20 Post by **Sit Heel Speak** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 21:00

Jactek wrote:Im having a heck of a time downloading the RC2 ISO

Keep trying. It took me four tries to get the entire pgs_215.sfs, at around 8.5Kbps. Three tries to get OOo_215.sfs, two tries to get the Puppy 2.15CE RC2 .iso itself.

These mysterious cutoffs are why a BitTorrent stream download is a better idea than simple mirrors. Although mirrors are better than nothing.

Ted Dog · #21 Post by **Ted Dog** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 21:10

Jactek I am sorry you machine is too powerful to run puppy, try vista

I've haven't been involved with CE due to little RAM (240M) to run it, I'll find those files and put them on puptrix.

WhoDo · #22 Post by **WhoDo** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 21:10

Pizzasgood wrote:To get the menus working, just open a terminal and run fixmenus then restart the windowmanager. Presto, you should have menu entries.

Yep. Did that (several times) and still no menu entries. I checked (and rechecked) Nathan's updated XDG directory and menu files, too. No joy. Maybe it's just me, but from the posts above I don't really think so. Has something fundamental changed in the way XDG menus are dynamically created?

Scoticus · #23 Post by **Scoticus** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 21:39

If a superstar like WhoDo cant get things to work, what chance have I ?

Everything looks brilliant on paper but how do I get it onto my system. ?

I am having great fun experimenting at finding what I can do and what suits me but to have what looks so near to my ideal setup only to find that is is so far away is so frustrating.

I was hopefull that I could put this on a Flash Drive aand progress from there but so far I am stuck.

Your guidance will be most helpfull

Ian

ralphv · #24 Post by **ralphv** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 21:52

I found a few problems. When I switch to jwm, the menu has no option to switch back to icewm, I have to type restartwm icewm in a command window. Also, in jwm, Gaim is not in the menu, so it has to be typed in from the command line.

I tried to rip an audio cd, it said I have to belong to the cdrom group or otherwise get permission.

Ralph

WhoDo · #25 Post by **WhoDo** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 23:21

Scoticus wrote:I liked the look of what was on offer but find that when I burn the ISO to disk I end up with error message when closing / rebooting. I am using multisession disk as it lets me experiment with what I am looking for.

Ok, we need to know a bit more about the error message. What did it actually say? Did you check the md5sum for the ISO after downloading?

Are you using CD-RW? There are known issues with CD-RW multi-session. CD-R multi-session is fine ... I know because I always burn a test copy that way before uploading.

Don't worry about Dave's queries just yet. Let's get it booting right for you first, ok?

Cheers

Jactek · #26 Post by **Jactek** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 23:27

Got it 6th or 7th time must be the charm !!!!
Looks good

Thanks

Jim

WhoDo · #27 Post by **WhoDo** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 23:28

Scoticus wrote:If a superstar like WhoDo cant get things to work, what chance have I ?

I ain't not no superstar!

Everything is "working" ok, but the menu system isn't updating so the applications are easy to use. We'll work that out before Final, no worries.

Scoticus wrote: Everything looks brilliant on paper but how do I get it onto my system. ?

The best way, if you want to start with a full setup, is to download the iso and sfs files, then use Isomaster to add the sfs files to the iso. Then burn the iso to CD-R. Everything should then be available on the CD for next boot.

Scoticus wrote: I am having great fun experimenting at finding what I can do and what suits me but to have what looks so near to my ideal setup only to find that is is so far away is so frustrating.

That's very much the point with Puppy - the fun part, not the frustration. The fact it is also so complete, fast and usable is a bonus for the likes of us who are learning as we go.

Cheers

WhoDo · #28 Post by **WhoDo** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 23:31

ralphv wrote:When I switch to jwm, the menu has no option to switch back to icewm, I have to type restartwm icewm in a command window. Also, in jwm, Gaim is not in the menu, so it has to be typed in from the command line.

Yep. That's a long-standing JWM issue. I'll have a look and see if I can organise a workaround using XDG menus.

ralphv wrote:I tried to rip an audio cd, it said I have to belong to the cdrom group or otherwise get permission.

In Puppy you are root by default and root has access to absolutely everything? What program were you trying to use?

Cheers

WhoDo · #29 Post by **WhoDo** » Sun 25 Mar 2007, 23:48

Jactek wrote:Got it 6th or 7th time must be the charm !!!!
Looks good

I think the problem is bandwidth. Lot's of puppies trying to download their new toy all at the same time.

Although they are separate mirror sites, I believe at least two are using the same server; hence the bandwidth issues. We're looking at a generous offer to host for free on another server, so hopefully that situation should improve in time, and Barry has said he will host Final at ibiblio.org.

Cheers

Previously known as Guest · Sun 25 Mar 2007, 23:59

WhoDo wrote: I believe at least two are using the same server;

Cheers

Same host, but different servers.

WhoDo · #31 Post by **WhoDo** » Mon 26 Mar 2007, 02:21

Previously known as Guest wrote:
WhoDo wrote: I believe at least two are using the same server;

Cheers
Same host, but different servers.

Ok. Must be just extremely high demand then.

Cheers

ralphv · #32 Post by **ralphv** » Mon 26 Mar 2007, 02:34

WhoDo wrote:
ralphv wrote:When I switch to jwm, the menu has no option to switch back to icewm, I have to type restartwm icewm in a command window. Also, in jwm, Gaim is not in the menu, so it has to be typed in from the command line.
Yep. That's a long-standing JWM issue. I'll have a look and see if I can organise a workaround using XDG menus.

ralphv wrote:I tried to rip an audio cd, it said I have to belong to the cdrom group or otherwise get permission.
In Puppy you are root by default and root has access to absolutely everything? What program were you trying to use?

Cheers

ripperx
ralph

Previously known as Guest · Mon 26 Mar 2007, 02:40

WhoDo wrote: Ok. Must be just extremely high demand then.

Cheers

Yep, seems that peeps love their Puppy variants. Servage currently let me hit 110GB in one day which is astounding to think that much was downloaded in 24 hrs. (actually less than 24 hrs & tickets have been submitted on that issue.)

Still when MU's site & mine both go over the limit, which happens... that's 200+GB.

We both accept donations though.

willhunt · #34 Post by **willhunt** » Mon 26 Mar 2007, 02:52

I read some on the Bandwidth problems and thought this might help
I uploaded puppy-215CE-RC2-Standard and the extra sfs files to MiHD.net Just Click where it says request download link then click download link

puppy-215CE-RC2-Standard.iso
OOo_215.sfs
web_215.sfs
fltkc++_215.sfs

Maybe this will help in any case it's free

Ted Dog · #35 Post by **Ted Dog** » Mon 26 Mar 2007, 03:18

http://puptrix.org//isos/ce

monthly bandwidth resets in two days, 2TB per month, different hosting center than others.

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