KDE version of Puppy

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klhrevolutionist · #16 Post by **klhrevolutionist** » Tue 09 Aug 2005, 02:28

It seems as though barry is taking this bull(KDE) by the horns and doing what he wants with it! I like the fact your trying to get rid of all the junk kde comes with, I think that fvwm will run fine with kde apps as like you were saying
get rid of the bloat!!! Good work barry and hope you got it figured out

p.s. "klh clears throat" I'll test drive it if you want!!!

Alienx · #17 Post by **Alienx** » Thu 11 Aug 2005, 11:36

How about this ?

http://www.simplekde.org/

Walt H · #18 Post by **Walt H** » Thu 11 Aug 2005, 21:26

Alienx wrote:How about this ?

http://www.simplekde.org/

While it seems a worthwhile project, the downloads (three in all, presumably all required) run to about 50 meg, or roughly 80-percent the size of the current Puppy. Maybe a St. Bernard Puppy version?

marquitico · #19 Post by **marquitico** » Tue 16 Aug 2005, 06:19

Just thought that I'd add a noob's perspective. Never having used LINUX before, the fact that Puppy worked perfectly right out of the box (or perhaps I ought to say, right off the modem) was breathtaking. A nervous puppy became an enthusiastic and crusading puppy, and burned ten copies of the CD-image file for ten of his friends. The results were these:

Two couldn't have been bothered.

Of the remaining eight, two went right out to Wal-Mart and bought boxes with some distro already preloaded (LinSpire, I think).

Of the remaining six, two are so pleased, they are downloading PupGet packages and DotPUPs, as happy as children.

The final four said, it's beautiful, but does it come with KDE? It's the desktop I've seen most often.

Conclusion: the more options available, the more converts, I'd say. Remember that Windows refugees are used to much bloatedness.

Mark
"marquitico"

Puppy 1.0.4 Chubby with OO

klhrevolutionist · #20 Post by **klhrevolutionist** » Tue 16 Aug 2005, 23:01

So, if I understand you right barry, you could'nt tame konqueror??
Well, it happens. Maybe you could give it to someone who would host it
anyways for others wanting to mess with it???

So, seeing as krazy puppy was a crazy idea, what if anything are you going to integrate from this experience into the next release of puppy???

mclien · #21 Post by **mclien** » Sun 25 Sep 2005, 13:19

ok, so far I use KDE on faster computer. But not for having KDE itself, but for some interesting applications.
These are:
1.konqueror (but perhaps there are much file browsers out there, that have the same features, with less overloading Qts or so)
Maybe endeavour is worth a shot, because wou have an Image AND filebrowser then.
2.KOrganizer, a calandar and task manager
....well, the rest of kde can be replaced by other (better) apps for me

#22 Post by MU » Sun 25 Sep 2005, 13:31

Hi,

do you know XfileExplorer http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=1922
and Monthcalendar http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=2026 ?

Not really comparable to the KDE-Programs, for example XFE does not support Ftp or other nice features.

But for me it is ok as alternative, I use Gftp for Ftp .

Greets, Mark

mclien · #23 Post by **mclien** » Wed 28 Sep 2005, 15:01

hi MU,

that lokks good for me. I think I get the dotpups within this weekend to give them e testrun.

My calendar file should work in diffrent enviornments/ OS without distroying something...

I'll try this out and post the results.

#24 Post by MU » Wed 28 Sep 2005, 16:37

The calendar-files can be copied from Linux to windows without problems.

The Calendar works with Linux, XP and Win98.

Mark

mclien · #25 Post by **mclien** » Thu 20 Oct 2005, 12:05

@MU no time to tset calendar so far.

according to a post above from myself: filemanager endeavour:

http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.p ... =endeavour

Guest · #26 Post by **Guest** » Fri 28 Oct 2005, 22:43

kde_complete-3.4.2.tar.gz decompressed is 0 bytes ?

Alienx · #27 Post by **Alienx** » Sat 29 Oct 2005, 01:08

Anonymous wrote:kde_complete-3.4.2.tar.gz decompressed is 0 bytes ?

Barry, please, we want to download it

bombay_rockers · #28 Post by **bombay_rockers** » Sat 29 Oct 2005, 18:22

ok i have got kde running in puppy. earlier i had tried to install kde in puppy but i had failed to get multimedia running.

this time around i have used slax .mo modules and got kde running in puppy

my installation consists of
puppy 1.0.5
a fresh pup file ~400 Mb
kde base
kde libs
arts
xorg server(from slax - arts does not work with the xorg.pup made by MU)
kde games (no sound ??)
kde multimedia (juk, kplayer, mplayer, kscd.. are all working - i have been using this as my default desktop for a week now)
kde network apps
kde pim

k3b is running but i have not been able to test it as i dont have a cd rw drive

the size of my complete installation is ~270 mb
making dotpups of these is out of question for now & i am still testing this.
if you want to help in the testing process i can write for you exact instructions on how to get slax .mo modules to working kde in puppy

bombayrockers · #29 Post by **bombayrockers** » Tue 01 Nov 2005, 09:17

this is a screenshot of kde running on my desktop

saintlangton · #30 Post by **saintlangton** » Tue 01 Nov 2005, 20:38

Well done sir!

How long would it take to do this from scratch with your instructions? Are we talking an hour? An evening? A weekend?

From the sound of most of this thread It sounds like it may have been a bit of a long hard jobs.

The use of slax modules sounds like a strike of inspiration. Does this mean slax modules in general are now available for porting to puppy? That would be cool. Or was a case of considerable surgery on those unsuspecting lumps of code?

Again, Congratulations!

Chris

bombayrockers · #31 Post by **bombayrockers** » Wed 02 Nov 2005, 05:28

instructions on how to extract slax .mo modules have been posted in how to section

http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=3366

i made this kde installation over a week in bits and pieces. i went about solving dependencies for applications one by one using ldd command.

you will require puppy 1.0.5
a fresh pup file ~400 Mb
usr_devx.sfs

a working SLAX ( download from slax.linux-live.org ~179 Mb)

128 Mb
200 Mb swap

i did not make a note of what all i have done so i will make a fresh kde install, jot down all steps and post them over here. with the instructions it should take a couple of hours to make the installation.

PeterSieg · #32 Post by **PeterSieg** » Wed 02 Nov 2005, 09:26

Hi. If I understood the last remaster script AlienX has put together, this
script takes all changes+new files inside pup001 and make a usr_more.sfs
out of them.. So that one can copy this to /mnt/home together with a fresh
pup001 file and seeing and having the same environment as just before the
remaster step... basically meaning all alterations are in usr_more.sfs ready
to rumble...

Maybe that could easily make a usr_more.sfs, that result in a kde puppy...?!

PS

bombay_rockers · #33 Post by **bombay_rockers** » Wed 02 Nov 2005, 10:35

Yes i know that the installation can be converted into usr_more.sfs. But the size of my final installation comes to around 250 Mbs so for puppy users it would be best if the packets are broken into much smaller packets(dotpups) i.e. arts (15 Mb), kdebase(20 Mb), ...

i have been using free servers on the net to post my stuff that usually have a limit of 50 mb. i have a internet connection as slow as a sloth. i have to try number of times before my files get sucessfully uploaded.

GuestToo · #34 Post by **GuestToo** » Wed 02 Nov 2005, 11:12

bit torrent is good for uploading files with a slow and unreliable connection

1) it breaks the uploads into small pieces

2) it automatically checks each piece ... when the torrent has finished downloading, the file(s) should be perfect copies of the original

3) as soon as another machine has a chunk, they will upload it too, at high speed if they have a high speed connection ... other computers with high speed connections can take over seeding the file(s)

4) super seeder mode will upload a different chunk to each downloader, so you don't have to upload the same chunk to a lot of different computers, so you only have to upload the file(s) once

the main problem with torrents is when people don't upload as much as they downloaded, because then someone else will have to upload what the leecher should have uploaded, or the torrent will break, because there won't be a seeder

when i decided how dotpups should work, the way i chose to make it is not very efficient in terms of space ... i figured that most dotpups would be relatively small, and any large packages could be downloaded and installed by the dotpup rather than be contained inside the dotpup ... basically, a dotpup is automatically unzipped in /root, which may have limited space if your pup001 file is not very big ... so you could have the dotpup and the unzipped dotpup in /root at the same time, which means you probably need at least twice as much free space as the size of the dotpup ... one thing i have thought of doing is to allow a user to choose where the dotpups unzip, so they could unzip on a mounted drive with lots of free space, for example

#35 Post by MU » Wed 02 Nov 2005, 11:29

You could split the file using "split" and send it to Ted_Dog.
You can split with "MToolsFM" in the filemanager-menue.
He could restore it with
touch newfile
cat kde.aa >>newfile
cat kde.ab >>newfile
cat kde.ac >>newfile
and so on.

Ted offers to host Puppys.
As a KDE-Package is larger than a puppy-iso, he might host that too.

See here:
http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=3336

Mark

(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

KDE version of Puppy

yes

To KDE or not to KDE...

understand

kde for puppy

have a look at kde puppy

how to slax .mo & kde - instructions

Probably make a usr_more.sfs with AlienX scripts..?