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2+ laptop wired eth "cards" not working in grafpup/puppy1&2
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amish

Joined: 24 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Feb 2007, 21:45    Post_subject:  2+ laptop wired eth "cards" not working in grafpup/puppy1&2  

here you go... avoid these until someone says they got one working:

netgear 32bit 10/100 (not a gigibit) fa511 testing in grafpup 104 / puppy 107 & 211 - comes with drivers for xp/98 and redhat 6, 7 (haven't tried that) and dos

us robotics cardbus 10/100 - model 7901a - comes with drivers for 98, dos, "linux" (source only) tested in puppy 211 and grafpup 2 alpha

those were pcmcia, this one was usb:

linksys 10/100 compact usb (fragile, like to break, don't like to work) network adapter, drivers for 98 2000 and xp (this one was a hail mary, but i figured it would be fun if it worked.) tested on puppy 2.11 and grafpup 104

so on none of these did the network wizard find an eth 0. pcmcia Sucks, but if you really want to get an old laptop on the net, you need it.

so, find a card that works first! because if you buy one new IT WONT and gigabit cards are less likely to work. sadly i don't have a cache of pcmcia nics that work in puppy laying around from a while ago.

it's that or i'll have to keep looking or buy a new computer, which will be good for the ridiculously bloated 200mb ce version of puppy 2.1x (you guys wanna use sfs to do that with a normal sized puppy as the core like grafpup? that would be a better move than one 200mb thing.) i need a laptop, i can't use a desktop to get online all the time. buying new sucks.

by the way, even tho it's a waste of $40, i'm holding onto one of the pcmcia cards. it'll be fun if i never get it working. after this long trying to get f***ing linux online, it's just more and more fun. i don't even want to switch to highspeed but linux wants to force me to- and, the best part is even that isn't helping. hurrah.

tips to linux newbies:

don't use new hardware/don't use old hardware/don't use laptops/don't bother with wine even tho you think it will be cool/don't bother trying to get dialup to work/don't bother playing games/get a mac.

BAH...

EDIT: DONT TRY TO GET A MAC TO WORK WITH PUPPY!
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tempestuous

Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Thu 22 Feb 2007, 06:10    Post_subject:  

It sounds like your problems are due to using modern Cardbus devices with an old PCMCIA interface. Cardbus is 32bit, PCMCIA is 16bit. This will never work, not with any operating system. Puppy and Linux have nothing to do with the problem.

Newbies, don't be discouraged. Puppy is ideal for older hardware ... as long as the hardware components, themselves, are compatible.

With a true Cardbus interface those network devices would be detected by Puppy, and the appropriate driver loaded. There's no need to go off and obtain drivers separately.
The Netgear FA511 is supported by the "tulip" driver.
The US Robotics 7901 is supported by the "pcnet_cs" driver.

And the Linksys USB200M is supported by the "asix" driver.

Hardware modems are bulletproof under Linux.
And Puppy has driver support for most winmodems, particularly Lucent and SmartLink winmodems.
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amish

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Feb 2007, 06:53    Post_subject:  

OH HELL. you're right... i didn't have any clue that cardbus differed from pcmcia.

if any of you are in dc (usa) for a trip of some kind, meet the amish coder and get a free cardbus card Sad i should have kept the usb one instead. the other two got returned. sodding cardbus! i need to find a real pcmcia nic. thanks for the info.

p.s. i've been telling people for 8 years... it's a $&@$!^# hardware modem (no offense) i've had it for years now, it's not usb, it's a little box with a serial port on one side and a phone jack on the other. and it has a row of lights on it. and it works fine in dos, which is what i bought it for.

i strongly suspect that it is not a winmodem. so moving past that, i just need a nic that i can put in my laptop.
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setecio

Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Posts: 326
Location: UK

PostPosted: Sun 08 Apr 2007, 17:25    Post_subject:  

I'm trying to install the netgear FA511 on an IBM thinkpad 560z, Puppy 2.14. It worked fine on win98 so am I correct in assuming the cardbus socket is a cardbus socket and not pcmcia. I'm using it in the lower slot (but have tried upper as well)

560z tech manual here ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/56ztecrf.pdf
Quote:
The system board has two PC Card slots that support the following
types of PC Cards:
Ÿ 16 bit PC Card Type–I, II, III 5V, 3.3V
Ÿ CardBus PC Card Type–I, II, III 3.3V

Quote:
The Type I and Type II PC Cards can
be installed into either the upper or the lower slot, or into both slots
at the same time. The Type III PC Card, however, must be installed
only in the lower slot. The Type II PC card cannot be used in the
upper slot when a Type III PC Card is used.


I noticed the Tulip driver in Puppy is labelled as PCI. Are you sure that The FA511 cardbus card should install using the Puppy Tulip PCI driver ? Or do I have to get a cardbus tulip driver from somewhere?

I also tried ndiswrapper on the winXP .sys and .inf files (I assume those are the only 2 I needed to access?) but that didn't work either.
Is ndiswrapper purely for wireless card as the fa511 is an ethernet card.
ifconfig doesn't show eth0.

Can anyone help ? Thanks.
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