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How to add ALSA to Puppy 1.0.4 HD install
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jcoder24


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PostPosted: Tue 13 Dec 2005, 17:00    Post subject:  

Quoted from http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=4618

cheepgeek wrote:
When I try to adjust volume in alsamixer I get this error:

alsamixer: relocation error: alsamixer: symbol snd_mixer_selem_get_play
back_dB, version ALSA 0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time
reference

Any help would REALLY be appreciated!!!


I'm assuming the alsapup you downloaded came from this thread.

From the error is looks like a version incompatibility issue. If you used a version of the alsa.pup downloaded before Dec 11, try downloading and install the libasound.pup. Alternatively you can download the newly updated package.
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jcoder24


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PostPosted: Wed 14 Dec 2005, 23:06    Post subject:  

Update.

The libasound.pup solved cheepgeek's problem. Other than the one major problem flash encountered when installing alsa initially, the testing seems to be going well. It would be nice if we can have some additionaly testers though.

Any takers?

Also, for those of you who have tested the package so far, do you have any suggestions?

jc
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Flash
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Dec 2005, 23:37    Post subject:  

jcoder24 wrote:
Flash

The installation doesn't require a reboot or xwin restart.

The icon should be puppy's wizard icon, so I hope that the right program ran. Maybe I should remove the menu entry?

I'm not clear on what you're saying. Confused

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As for the system freezing I'm at a loss. If only we had some logs. It would be nice to see what happens with a 'clean' pupxxx file.

What about installing the dotpup in a 1.0.7(a) CD booted with option 4 (no hard drive)? That's how I usually test new programs before I install them, but not your alsa dotpup. I installed it straight to a pup001 file. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec 2005, 00:40    Post subject:  

jcoder, I booted 1.0.7(a) CD with option 4 (no hard drive), got online, downloaded your alsa dotpup package, clicked it and got the first screen shot you see below. I didn't restart but simply clicked OK then clicked on the "alsacfg" gear icon which showed up, leading to the second screen shot. The top two choices in the second screenshot are from a Hauppauge TV tuner card. Apparently alsacfg thinks it's a sound card. Confused

As shown in the third screen shot, I flipped a coin and chose to modify /etc/modules.conf. At the very end of the install sequence the text said "unable to install alsa something or other" but went away quickly so I couldn't get a screen shot of it. My sound is working though, so how do I tell if alsa is actually installed and acting as my sound driver?
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jcoder24


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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec 2005, 00:58    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
At the very end of the install sequence the text said "unable to install alsa something or other" but went away quickly so I couldn't get a screen shot of it.

Prob the message saying something like "no alsa state found" (not in puppy now so I can't verify). Nothing to worry about since there wouldn't be any previous alsa states.

Flash wrote:
My sound is working though, so how do I tell if alsa is actually installed and acting as my sound driver?


/etc/rc.d/rc.alsa status
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec 2005, 01:40    Post subject:  

jcoder24 wrote:
Flash wrote:
At the very end of the install sequence the text said "unable to install alsa something or other" but went away quickly so I couldn't get a screen shot of it.

Prob the message saying something like "no alsa state found" (not in puppy now so I can't verify). Nothing to worry about since there wouldn't be any previous alsa states.

No, it definitely started out "unable to install alsa..."

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Flash wrote:
My sound is working though, so how do I tell if alsa is actually installed and acting as my sound driver?


/etc/rc.d/rc.alsa status

/etc is a symlink to /root/.etc (is that because I booted with option 4?), where there is no /rc.d/rc.alsa status, but there is a /rc.d/rc.alsa.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec 2005, 16:22    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
/etc is a symlink to /root/.etc (is that because I booted with option 4?)

/etc is always a symlink to /root/.etc

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where there is no /rc.d/rc.alsa status, but there is a /rc.d/rc.alsa.

status is the option being passed to the script /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa (or /root/.etc/rc.d/rc.alsa).

If /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa does not exists then alsa wouldn't load. In that case, try searching the system for rc.alsa find / -depth -name rc.alsa.

PS I've successfully installed the alsa dotpup with an option 4 boot. The only 'negative' message displayed is "No state present for card AudioPCI"
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec 2005, 17:03    Post subject:  

Ah, I was supposed to run "rc.alsa" and ask for status? Embarassed I'll try when I can find time to mess with Puppy again.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec 2005, 19:23    Post subject: alsa  

Flash did you try lsmod ? I saw that my old sound driver was not remove by the script (I did have the time to look why not , sorry) so I had to remove by hand and rerun the alsa script . Than it worked .
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec 2005, 23:39    Post subject:  

menno

Can you post a pre-alsa lsmod for your system? I'll like to see if I can get the alsacfg script to automagically rmmod your oss drivers.

jc
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Dec 2005, 00:52    Post subject:  

OK, I did everything exactly as described in my previous post above, but this time I thought to use ctrl-s to stop the next-to-last alsacfg dialog window and take a screenshot of it (see below), but ctrl-s wouldn't stop the very last window, which of course blinks off too quickly for me to read all of it. Oddly, even though the next-to-last window seems to say alsa wasn't installed, what I can read of the last window seems to say alsa was installed ok.

I also ran lsmod before:
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# lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
keybdev 1860 0 (unused)
mousedev 4020 1
hid 20804 0 (unused)
usbmouse 1880 0 (unused)
input 3360 0 [keybdev mousedev hid usbmouse]
parport_pc 15108 0
parport 23880 0 [parport_pc]
sr_mod 14488 0 (unused)
ide-cd 29504 0
cdrom 27744 0 [sr_mod ide-cd]
unionfs 157488 1
nls_iso8859-1 2812 0 (autoclean)
sd_mod 11404 0 (unused)
ds 6580 1
usb-uhci 21936 0 (autoclean) (unused)
usbcore 59596 1 (autoclean) [hid usbmouse usb-uhci]
i810_audio 23292 0 (autoclean) (unused)
ac97_codec 12020 0 (autoclean) [i810_audio]
soundcore 3588 2 (autoclean) [i810_audio]
yenta_socket 10436 1 (autoclean)
pcmcia_core 40228 0 (autoclean) [ds yenta_socket]
tulip 39200 1 (autoclean)
crc32 2896 0 (autoclean) [tulip]
e100 47604 0 (autoclean) (unused)
scsi_mod 93972 2 [sr_mod sd_mod]
# lsmod


and after alsa was installed:
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# lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
snd 33732 0 (autoclean)
snd-page-alloc 5268 0 (autoclean) [snd]
keybdev 1860 0 (unused)
mousedev 4020 1
hid 20804 0 (unused)
usbmouse 1880 0 (unused)
input 3360 0 [keybdev mousedev hid usbmouse]
parport_pc 15108 0
parport 23880 0 [parport_pc]
sr_mod 14488 0 (unused)
ide-cd 29504 0
cdrom 27744 0 [sr_mod ide-cd]
unionfs 157488 1
nls_iso8859-1 2812 0 (autoclean)
sd_mod 11404 0 (unused)
ds 6580 1
usb-uhci 21936 0 (autoclean) (unused)
usbcore 59596 1 (autoclean) [hid usbmouse usb-uhci]
i810_audio 23292 0 (autoclean) (unused)
ac97_codec 12020 0 (autoclean) [i810_audio]
soundcore 3588 2 (autoclean) [snd i810_audio]
yenta_socket 10436 1 (autoclean)
pcmcia_core 40228 0 (autoclean) [ds yenta_socket]
tulip 39200 1 (autoclean)
crc32 2896 0 (autoclean) [tulip]
e100 47604 0 (autoclean) (unused)
scsi_mod 93972 2 [sr_mod sd_mod]
#

(Sorry the column format was not retained when I copied from Beaver and pasted into the forum.)

Finally, I ran /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa status, which returned:
Quote:
ALSA sound driver loaded
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Dec 2005, 10:34    Post subject:  

flash

That usu happens when the oss modules are not removed before loading the alsa modules.

To manually uninstall your oss modules run the following.

Code:

rmmod i810_audio ac97_codec


Rerunning alsacfg should then complete successfully.

I've submitted a post in the Users ( For the regulars ) section requesting lsmod samples so I can modify the alsacfg to better determine and uninstall the oss modules.

jc
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Dec 2005, 17:00    Post subject: remove  

I use
Code:
modprobe -r i810_audio
. This remove also the assosiated modules . I cann't find what the difference is in rmmode and modprobe -r .
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Dec 2005, 00:44    Post subject:  

jcoder, menno, I tried 'em both and both gave the same result: "device or resource busy." Sad I'm not using the sound for anything so what's going on? Neither Top View nor KP Manage Running Processes list anything that looks like a sound driver.
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ARAN

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Dec 2005, 16:53    Post subject:  

hello !

can somebody tell me which sound card should i configure in alsacfg.

i have the choice between 4 auto detected sound cards.
i am not really sure if there are really good auto detected becouse the hardware probe say i have a "Via Technologies - AC97 Compatible Controller"
and the alsa conf script say i have a via modem as a sound card.


Thats here is what the hardware probe say.
Quote:
===== parse_pci_devices =====
No info found about the device 17fe.2220 (ETHERNET)!
Please send a snapshot of this window to ##########
Also read Modules HOWTO.
1106:3108 (3,0) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] DISPLAY (null)
1022:1103 (6,0) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] BRIDGE (null)
1022:1102 (6,0) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] BRIDGE (null)
1022:1101 (6,0) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] BRIDGE (null)
1022:1100 (6,0) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] BRIDGE (null)
1106:3065 (2,0) 11 [ Via - VT6102 Rhine II ] ETHERNET via-rhine
1106:3068 (7,128) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] COMM PORT (null)

1106:3059 (4,1) 11 [ Via Technologies - AC97 Compatible Controller ] AUDIO viaudiocombo

1106: 571 (1,1) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] EIDE (null)
1106:3177 (6,1) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] BRIDGE (null)
1106:3104 (12,3) 11 [ VIA Technologies - ] USB ehci-hcd
1106:3038 (12,3) 11 [ VIA Technologies - VT 82C586B Apollo ] USB usb-uhci
1106:3038 (12,3) 11 [ VIA Technologies - VT 82C586B Apollo ] USB usb-uhci
1106:3038 (12,3) 11 [ VIA Technologies - VT 82C586B Apollo ] USB usb-uhci
104c:802e (12,0) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] SERIAL (null)
104c:ac8e (6,7) 11 [ Texas Instruments - PCI7420 CardBus Controller ] CARDBUS yenta_socket
104c:ac8e (6,7) 11 [ Texas Instruments - PCI7420 CardBus Controller ] CARDBUS yenta_socket
17fe:2220 (2,0) 1 [ (null) - (null) ] ETHERNET (null)
1106:b188 (6,4) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] BRIDGE (null)
1106:7204 (6,0) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] BRIDGE (null)
1106:4204 (6,0) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] BRIDGE (null)
1106:3204 (6,0) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] BRIDGE (null)
1106:2204 (6,0) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] BRIDGE (null)
1106:1204 (6,0) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] BRIDGE (null)
1106: 204 (6,0) 0 [ (null) - (null) ] BRIDGE (null)


ad that here is what alsaconf say.
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