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Puppy 2.15CE "Viz" - Development Ideas/Requests
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GuestToo
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Joined: 04 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Feb 2007, 23:39    Post subject:  

i think what you are looking for is in /root/.icewm/preferences:

# Desktop mouse-button click to show the root menu
# DesktopMenuButton=3 # [0-20]

this line is commented, so Icewm uses the default, which is that the mouse button 3 (right click) will show the menu

i have configured my package the way i like, and MU has configured his package the way he likes ... in this particular case i did not change the default configuration

most of the configuration items i did not change ... i tried to label most of my changes ... either with a #G2 tag ... some of my configuration changes are at the bottom of the preferences file, in a group
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WhoDo


Joined: 11 Jul 2006
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Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2007, 01:14    Post subject:  

GuestToo wrote:
i think what you are looking for is in /root/.icewm/preferences:

# Desktop mouse-button click to show the root menu
# DesktopMenuButton=3 # [0-20]

this line is commented, so Icewm uses the default, which is that the mouse button 3 (right click) will show the menu

Yes, I found those lines doing a Gtkdiff between my preferences file and Pizza's. Changing that actually didn't help UNTIL I also changed the following:
Code:
#  Manage root window (EXPERIMENTAL - normally enabled!)
GrabRootWindow=1 # 0/1

GrabRootWindow was disabled, so I enabled it and voila!

Cheers, and thanks guys!
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lickthefrog2


Joined: 22 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2007, 04:18    Post subject:  

Very teensy, tiny point--and I could be wrong--but I don't think there should be a comma before "versatility" nor "vapidity" in the logo on the wiki page. Come to think of it, there probably shouldn't be a comma after "versatility".
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DC


Joined: 30 Apr 2006
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Location: Maidenhead, England

PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2007, 13:59    Post subject:  

Hi All,

Viz 2.15CE - have been reading through the forum regarding what programmes should be in and what should be out.
Would it be simple / easy to list the multiple programmes in a voting form for everybody to select what they would like in? And to record that you have voted (for the usual reasons).

I do have one objection to the windows look alike contest. That is the “Start” button! I think the button marked as “Menu” is more in keeping with the puppy style.


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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2007, 17:14    Post subject:  

DC wrote:
Would it be simple / easy to list the multiple programmes in a voting form for everybody to select what they would like in? And to record that you have voted (for the usual reasons).

A vote would be a very worthwhile effort for a CE project. Best way to handle that would be to set up a survey at Surveymonkey and provide a link here.

I'm sorry but I'm flat strap and can't spare the time to do that, so if you wanted to make that your contribution I'm sure the community would be very grateful.

Cheers, and thanks for your input.
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MU


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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2007, 17:36    Post subject:  

I had configured Icewm-Ultra like this, because at that time there were many requests in the forum to suppress a menu with click on the desktop.
Later, in Muppy, I re-activated it again, because I really missed it Wink

Mark
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WhoDo


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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2007, 18:46    Post subject:  

MU wrote:
I had configured Icewm-Ultra like this, because at that time there were many requests in the forum to suppress a menu with click on the desktop.
Later, in Muppy, I re-activated it again, because I really missed it Wink

Very Happy Well that's good because I'm not sure I like it, so now I know where to disable it! Razz

That said, I'm trying to leave 2.15CE open to user configuration as much as possible. It's all about choice.

Cheers
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Pizzasgood


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Location: Knoxville, TN, USA

PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2007, 19:50    Post subject:  

Great. Now when I'm home for the weekend I can get my sister's IceWM working again. She'll be happy, and messing with her computer will be more tolerable for me too.
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Pizzasgood


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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2007, 22:38    Post subject:  

Okay, I have set up a hopefully Puppy 2.15CE friendly version of PupBeGone. It doesn't have the fancy GUI or the speed of PETget, but it gets the job done. It comes with a basic .desktop entry too.

pupbegone-1.5.pet

Just decompress this and it should give you an Unleashed-friendly package directory. I haven't actually tested it with Unleashed though. I do know it works when installed in 2.14 with PETget though.

This has a dependency on the 0pkgs_db package. That is what contains the data it needs to uninstall things. It is created/updated by the createpetgets script in Unleashed. That must be done whenever the other packages have changed. It doesn't have to be done every time, just when you want PupBeGone to work correctly. You should do it anyway in the end, so you can create the PETget packages for the repository.

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veronicathecow


Joined: 21 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Mar 2007, 04:31    Post subject:  

Really love right mouse click brings up menu. Less mouse movement means less RSI and faster working. Definitly essential in my opinion. Thanks
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taichifu

Joined: 08 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Mar 2007, 06:36    Post subject:  

Read with great interest all the post. Why not include a universal printing Kernel (as in Ubuntu) to enable us to connect any printer straight out of the box, as CUPS although workable is a hit or miss (in my case), also a scanning utlilty for scanner install. I think Opera would be better as a standard rather than Firefox, as it is more user friendly. Also K3B for CR/DVD writing for it's user friendliness and stability, it was included in Puppy v2.10 so why not in the latest releases. Forget the awful KDE and Gnome, not needed.Abiword and gnumeric is excellent as it is no need for OO, too cumbersome and slow. After all why copy Microsoft, it's suppose to be a different OS much sleeker,faster and stable.

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Firescarab

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Location: Manchester, UK

PostPosted: Fri 02 Mar 2007, 08:17    Post subject: The future of Linux  

I’m a simple soul with simple needs. Currently, Puppy offers the best option for some of those needs. I use Puppy Linux on my old low spec’d laptop (rather than scrapping it – “Save the Planet”) to wirelessly connect (using a PCMCIA Card) to the Internet. Providing the O/S can load quickly, run quickly have a nice GUI and can cope with all the websites I visit and all the normal and immerging standards that that entails then I’m happy. Personally I believe Linux must not follow the MS route of becoming bloated - it will be their down fall.

Wireless and broadband have caused a revolution. It seems to me that most PCs are just becoming terminals. If you want a calculator, a metric/imperial conversion tool, a spreadsheet, a route planner or what ever they are all out there as web pages. Linux must become more accessible to women rather then the computer academic, the hobbyist, the boffin (all of whom are predominately men). Only when this happens will Linux come out of the computing back waters and be part of the lives of the common people selling things on Ebay, ordering holidays, reading film reviews and all the things people do.
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Pizzasgood


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Location: Knoxville, TN, USA

PostPosted: Fri 02 Mar 2007, 14:55    Post subject:  

Quote:
Linux must become more accessible to women

I thought we were equal? Care to explain how a woman is at a disadvantage? I'm a guy, so I don't know first-hand how well women learn linux, but my little sister gets by alright. I hate discrimination based on stupid things like race, gender, and age, so I'd be glad to try fixing it if you can point me toward something specifically anti-woman. (I really would be glad to fix it, more women using linux = Smile ).

I think what you meant to say is to just make it easier for anyone to learn. We're trying. One of the annoying things has always been configuring it. Now there are some people working on a control panel. Before that, I had set up a simple "Defaults-Changer". I also have a "Save-file Wizard" that I need to finish porting to Puppy. This will make encrypting and decrypting save-files easier in case you change your mind about using one.

After that, I need to study the new shutdown scripts a little and modify them to allow encryption on shutdown, like I did in Pizzapup. I should be able to make it cleaner this time too.


@WhoDo:
If 2.15 is going to support encryption, it would be best to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.modules to load the encryption drivers. Otherwise, the init script will load them if you load an encrypted save-file, but if you load a normal one, you wouldn't be able to mount an encrypted one without loading them. Just add these to the end of the file:
Code:
modprobe aes
modprobe cryptoloop

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bobn9lvu


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PostPosted: Fri 02 Mar 2007, 15:29    Post subject:  

I have a wanted suggestion as well, scsi support Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

Seeing that Puppy was originally meant for older- less powerfull systems,
it would be nice to include scsi hard drive install/boot support,
and gain use of all the nice scsi hardware thats available on the market... Rolling Eyes Wink
I have a lot of older scsi hardware that would really make Puppy sit up and HOWL like the big dogs!!! Twisted Evil

Bob Cool
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veronicathecow


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PostPosted: Fri 02 Mar 2007, 15:39    Post subject:  

Being still unable to print reliably or even at all nolw without re-installing cups each time I must agree with taichifu. It's essential for people to be able to input and output to their PC otherwise it's an expensive door stop!
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