Pizzapup 3.0 FINAL

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#46 Post by Pizzasgood »

I did a little research and confirmed that 2.13 added better support for USB keyboard detection (and more keyboard stuff in general). I think it might be more than a simple driver change.

This made me more anxious to get started on the next version, so last night I started prepping to convert Pizzapup to the 2.14 base. I was originally just going to replace the packages Barry changed, but he did so much when doing XDG and PETget that it will be simpler to apply Pizzapup to a new base instead. So-far I have a standard 2.14 that thinks it's Pizzapup 3.0 (that means I've changed the version number and implemented the pza_ prefix, and this time I used a variable so I could change the prefix if I felt like it).

My next goal is to add all the stuff from Pizzapup 3.0 into it. From there I can start doing new things.

However, I might upload an "alpha" when I get the main stuff added, before I make changes. In essence, it would just be Pizzapup 3.0 with the guts from Puppy 2.14 (PETget, official XDG implementation, and better startup scripts). So actually, it would be like Pizzapup 3.0.1 (and that's what the guts will see the version number as).

This would let people make sure I didn't break something, along with providing a solution to keyboard problems and access to PETget. Otherwise it would be at least several weeks before I uploaded a "real" alpha of 3.1, with changes and stuff.

So how's that sound? I should have it done by St. Patrick's day at the latest.

It will also include any small tweaks I've made since releasing 3.0. Not many though.
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#47 Post by Scoticus »

I hope that this is not all down to me all the extra work you are doing.

If I can assist by checking how the changes respond to the changes just PM me and I will get on the job..

Hope everything works to plan and it is not too much work.

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#48 Post by Pizzasgood »

If I said I'd have 3.1 done by St. Patrick's day, that would be too much. Just getting 3.0 upgraded to the 2.14 base isn't too bad. The only reason it might take even that long is that I have two exams between now and then (not bad considering I had two just last night).

I'm also making allowances for some other smaller things I'm working on in the mean time.

And it isn't extra work, because I was going to do it anyway. The only thing I wasn't planning to do before was upload a 3.0.1 version. But actually making one is a required step toward 3.1.
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#49 Post by iscraigh »

Tried it out, that's what I have been looking for, firefox-gaim that works with msn, and mplayer. All under 100 mb. Can't believe I haven't tried previous versions. Does it contain the lates remaster script that supports ntfs? If not it would be a good addition.

great work.

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#50 Post by Pizzasgood »

If it was in 2.12, yes. Otherwise, is it in 2.14? If not I'll add it to Pizzapup 3.0.1.

I can't guarantee it works with Pizzapup though, as I changed the pup_xxx.sfs file to pza_xxx.sfs. If it doesn't, let me know and I'll fix it.

Thanks. :)
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#51 Post by Basu »

Has anyone used this as a multisession CD? It says that it has flash 7. Can I upgrade to Flash 9?
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#52 Post by Pizzasgood »

I don't know of anyone using it as multisession. I've never used multisession on any Puppy myself. Why not try it and let us know :wink: I'll make a mental note to test the next version that way, though. I never thought about it before.

As for flash, yes, you can upgrade it. You might want to check the thread about fixing it so flash 9 doesn't crash though.
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#53 Post by iscraigh »

It doesn't have the latest remaster script, the one that supports ntfs. I installed it and did a remaster, it worked but did make the pza file into a pup file. This caused a challenge when I then tried to install it to a usb drive because the installer wanted a pza.....so isomaster, extract, rename, install, all good.
Can you make it so that it will accept either file?

The other issue I had with ndiswrapper is fixed in 2.14 so when you upgrade it it will be all good.

I'm thinking this will be my CE, great looking, gaim works, Mplayer works and small.

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#54 Post by Pizzasgood »

Nope, sorry. The whole reason I changed the prefixes on the save-file and pza_xxx.sfs files was to let it co-exist with Puppy better, so they don't try loading eachother's files. I will make a modified version for the next Pizzapup though, so it will work. If you post a link to the one you want, it will save me some work. Thanks :)
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#55 Post by iscraigh »

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=105

Also the setup network out of 2,14 the one in yours does not load ndiswrapper drivers

following the manual directions works but I have to modprobe on every reboot.

Where can I add a command to modprobe ndiswrapper?

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#56 Post by Scoticus »

Tried again to access but on starting boot sequence my keyboard and mouse were not detected as USB. Once again got stuck when offered keyboard selection.

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#57 Post by ricstef »

Pizzasgood,
I think you're looking for this simple change by Pakt to solve the USB kb & mouse detection.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13550

Keep up the good work. :)
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#58 Post by Pizzasgood »

Cool, thanks.

I found out I actually have two exams this week, but the one I didn't know about is just computer science. Also, we don't get CS homework when we have an exam. The time I spend studying will actually be less than the time I'd spend doing homework. :roll: For stress reasons though, I might not finish 3.0.1 by St. Patrick's day, but I'll try. I want to get it done so I can work on the bootsplash again. I refuse to make 3.1 without my bootsplash. That way I'll be forced to work on it :D

So I might be a day late. Just letting you know. We'll see. :)
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#59 Post by Nathan F »

Cool, that will make two puplets with a boot splash :D

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#60 Post by bostonvaulter »

Hey pizzasgood,

is there any chance in getting this page updated? http://www.puppylinux.org/user/downloads.php?cat_id=2

It still lists pizzapup105. I was halfway throw downloading it when I noticed that you said that pizzapup is up to version 3.0 in your sig...

thanks,
Jason

[edit]maybe you could update this thread also http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=3145 . (it's the one linked from that puplet download page)[/edit]
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#61 Post by Pizzasgood »

Okay, I'll PM Puppian tonight or tomorrow. I'd do it now, but I'm almost done with 3.0.1, so I want to wait until I get that finished and uploaded. About all that's left is going through G2's service pack for anything I didn't already do, and then some final testing.

I added a note to that old thread too, but I don't feel like constantly editing threads when I make new version. So what I'm going to do sometime is set up a page on my website for Pizzapup in general, listing all of them with information and stuff. Then that can link to the forum threads for each version. Then I'll just point to the appropriate page of that site rather than a forum thread.
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#62 Post by GuestToo »

you might want to add Gdmap with the large file support patch, if you already haven't ... i really don't know if there are any bugs in it or not, but it was a simple patch ... i like the version with the Exit button, but i compiled that on Puppy 108, i think it should be compatible with Puppy 2, but again, i'm not totally certain (well, it works on my machine)

i was thinking of adding Gdmap to SP214

also zcat, which you already know about

you might like the /etc/X11/app-defaults/XCalc file from this:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=16040
it just makes xcalc prettier, and easier to read for people with vision problems

i've been watching the Bugs forum, but i haven't noticed anything to put in SP214

maybe you would like to add a Startup folder to Pizzapup? http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 182#105182

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#63 Post by Pizzasgood »

Thanks, I had intended to grab that Gdmap, but kept forgetting. The other stuff is cool too, but I'm going to hold off on putting them in 3.0.1. I'm trying to limit myself to just porting to 2.14 and fixing some bugs. 3.1[.0] might get them though, especially that startup directory idea.

I'll throw in the patched Gdmap in a couple minutes, and probably upload overnight (I'm at home for the week, so I don't have the "faster than Sonic with three power-rings" internet connection I get in my dorm).

Next I'm working on the web_215.sfs, which will hopefully be semi-compatible with Pizzapup 3.0.1 if you rename it web_301.sfs :twisted:
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Is there a graphing calculator emulator for puppy like ti-86 or ti-89? They are they main calculators used at the colleges in NC. UNC-Charlotte and the Comm. College I am attending use them. is there an emulator with a simple interface? the emulators i have seen did not seem very streamlined or compact. Basically what I am talking about is an ti-86/89 emulator that focuses on the guts of the calculator and non of that sissy photographic quality Gui mess although a layout similar in arrangement would be nice.

I've got a hideous :twisted: Calc Lab this week as follows:
triangle formed by line with endpoints y=4 and x=3 find the max area of an inscribed circle. Now that is something to bend your brain around. anyhow I probably just missed something simple.

High hope for 2.15 CE
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#65 Post by bostonvaulter »

cb88,

I don't think strict emulators are 'legal', if you have your own calculator, you can get an image directly from the caluculator to use with the emulator. and then that would be legal
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