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don't burn coasters! use qemu instead.

#1 Post by muggins »

a lot of people seem to be having continuing problems getting successful burns of puppy onto cdroms.

i'd recommend the use of qemu, which is available for windows, or linuxes, which can emulate booting a cdrom iso, so that before you burn you'll have an idea of whether the iso can boot, and what it will look like when it does.

this is the site of the creator of qemu, Fabrice Bellard:

http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/

a link for installing to puppy:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 47&t=10188

and Erik Veenstra's site, for prepackaged usb-ready qemupups:

http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/index.html

once you've got a working qemu on you computer, then you can test booting cdroms with:

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qemu -L . -m 128 -cdrom name-of-distro.iso

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#2 Post by jason.b.c »

Why use something over complicated..??

Why would you need to use qemu to burn a disk..?

You could just use this instead..

http://www.imgburn.com/

That is , If you have a windows system..
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#3 Post by muggins »

to save burning coasters! qemu isn't for burning cdroms, but you can use it to emulate booting them before burning.

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#4 Post by Pizzasgood »

In other words, as a preview, so you can decide if you really want to burn a cd of Puppy or not.
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#5 Post by muggins »

yeah pizza,

as a preview, but also if qemu can boot it then you can be sure you've got a good iso.

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#6 Post by jason.b.c »

Pizzasgood wrote:In other words, as a preview, so you can decide if you really want to burn a cd of Puppy or not.
So then , It begs to question..

"Why did one ( IOW "A person" ) download the ISO to begin with..??"
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#7 Post by Lobster »

I use RW-DVD's and before that RW-CD's

they cost more but soon pay - being reusable

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#8 Post by cb88 »

Check out VirtualBox at http://www.virtualbox.org
I have also posted a sugested that it be made into a package for puppy since it is faster than Qemu
runs on win and linux
check it out in the sugestions area of the forum if you are interested and maybe some developers will take notice

Happy virtualization,

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#9 Post by muggins »

i had a squizz at virtual box, but it's definitely out of the question on my dilapidated machine!
you will need at least 512 MB of RAM (but probably more, and the more the better). Basically, you will need whatever your host operating system needs to run comfortably, plus the amount that the guest operating system normally needs.

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#10 Post by amish »

"Why did one ( IOW "A person" ) download the ISO to begin with..??"
to run it in qemu :)

say a new alpha version of puppy comes out, and you have high speed. you can't test your hardware running it from qemu, but you can check libs, software, try xdg menus or the new installer.

the better way to make sure the iso is good is to use md5sum.

but if you are running windows, you can access your puppy apps from qemu, you can access your dos apps from puppy, etc. yes, dosbox is more convenient. you can't run win98 in it tho. (you can run 98 or xp in qemu, not that you'd want to) i guess the question "why?" remains, but people are weird.
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#11 Post by Gn2 »

Jason

An ISO does NOT have to be burnt to be installable !

Nor is an ISO an absolute Requirement to install an O/System.

Another common use for an ISO - mount it in loopback & extract
individual portions.

Amish

Md5sum check is mandatory to VALIDATE the download
That does not ensure a good burn

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qemu dotpups updated

#12 Post by cb88 »

I think there is a kemu dotpup now since it is gpled. I am gonna try puppy in qemu in puppy in virtualbox on that o/s that start with a W.

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#13 Post by pg99 »

You can do much the same thing with VMWare if you have their player or server on your windows setup, or maybe you run a bigger distro like Suse, Ubuntu as well as Puppy...
anyway there is a pre-built (very small) virtual machine for VMWare which just boots ISOs

http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/284

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