Micro Muppy 002 (12 MB-Iso with Xvesa)
I updated the iso.
isolinux.cfg was missing the parameter ramdisk_size=29000
Burned a CD, and can boot from it.
But on my desktop, all the USB-modules for my mouse are unused.
I tried 2 different mice on different controllers, so there must miss a module.
I load them in /etc/rc.d/rc.local0
Hope we can sort this out.
On my laptop, the USB-mouse works.
On boot, you have a 1000 second timeout now, and can choose to use acpi or not.
Mark
isolinux.cfg was missing the parameter ramdisk_size=29000
Burned a CD, and can boot from it.
But on my desktop, all the USB-modules for my mouse are unused.
I tried 2 different mice on different controllers, so there must miss a module.
I load them in /etc/rc.d/rc.local0
Hope we can sort this out.
On my laptop, the USB-mouse works.
On boot, you have a 1000 second timeout now, and can choose to use acpi or not.
Mark
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wonder what I am doing
wonder what I am doingMU wrote: Burned a CD, and can boot from it.
- tried the new iso and this time did not boot (something missing in config file was the error message - I assume from grub
I'll get there . . .
In Puppy 109
/etc/mousedevice psaux
/etc/mousebuttons 5
readlink /dev/mouse
/dev/psaux
In micromuppy
/etc/mousedevice input/mice
/etc/mousebuttons 5
and changing to psaux made no difference.
I also tried on a usbflash drive with wakepup today and had to add ramdisk_size=29000 to make it start otherwise I got kernel panic.
Phil
/etc/mousedevice psaux
/etc/mousebuttons 5
readlink /dev/mouse
/dev/psaux
In micromuppy
/etc/mousedevice input/mice
/etc/mousebuttons 5
and changing to psaux made no difference.
I also tried on a usbflash drive with wakepup today and had to add ramdisk_size=29000 to make it start otherwise I got kernel panic.
Phil
the last update had broken the iso again, as I made that on a second computer.
Here I now had to modify the initrd-editor (set the pad-value to 900 from 600).
I tested this new iso now in qemu, and it works.
Sorry Lobster.
Please try again.
Phil:
I must make more tests, to solve that issue, have no idea atm.
Amish:
I added transset, and a utility to set windows transparent.
Sage:
According to the picopup-thread, picopup seems to run on 486.
But the things I added, might run on a Pentium only.
It uses a 29 MB-ramdisk, so 32 MB might be sufficient.
Please try it
Mark
Here I now had to modify the initrd-editor (set the pad-value to 900 from 600).
I tested this new iso now in qemu, and it works.
Sorry Lobster.
Please try again.
Phil:
I must make more tests, to solve that issue, have no idea atm.
Amish:
I added transset, and a utility to set windows transparent.
Sage:
According to the picopup-thread, picopup seems to run on 486.
But the things I added, might run on a Pentium only.
It uses a 29 MB-ramdisk, so 32 MB might be sufficient.
Please try it
Mark
Mark; Looks like what I was messing with about 6 months back, very interesting.
It's a tough call, build up or strip down, each has it's advantages.
I got kdrive running on PicoPup, but I don't have MU's ability at making apps. work.
I'm running EmptyCrust-1.0.7, here's the info:
/etc/mousedevice = psaux
readlink /dev/mouse = /dev/psaux
I posted a problem I'm having jumping from the bootup Save & Squash to new ones.
Before login the boot ones have no user settings or working apps. for security.
I hope it can be done without rebooting, otherwise I'm in for a major rework.
It's a tough call, build up or strip down, each has it's advantages.
I got kdrive running on PicoPup, but I don't have MU's ability at making apps. work.
I'm running EmptyCrust-1.0.7, here's the info:
/etc/mousedevice = psaux
readlink /dev/mouse = /dev/psaux
I posted a problem I'm having jumping from the bootup Save & Squash to new ones.
Before login the boot ones have no user settings or working apps. for security.
I hope it can be done without rebooting, otherwise I'm in for a major rework.
Last edited by sunburnt on Tue 30 Jan 2007, 01:59, edited 1 time in total.
transset:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 826&t=6547
It does not work with the original Xvesa in Puppy, just with xorg or the recompiled xvesa from micro muppy.
Mark
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 826&t=6547
It does not work with the original Xvesa in Puppy, just with xorg or the recompiled xvesa from micro muppy.
Mark
Fun, apps and programming
This is pure fun - X and file manager work and the file manager can load applications!
Time to learn PuppyBasic, the included programming language, and to search for PuppyBasic applications.
Time to learn PuppyBasic, the included programming language, and to search for PuppyBasic applications.
Thanks, Mark. It works fine. Can this be made the default condition for Inactive windows? If so, how would that be achieved?MU wrote:transset:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 826&t=6547
It does not work with the original Xvesa in Puppy, just with xorg or the recompiled xvesa from micro muppy.
Mark
Thanks again
whodo:
no not possible, the windowmanager had to support that.
raffy:
yes, with Puppybasic or bash and xmessage one could write simple tools like a drivemounter
Not as sophisticated as MUT, but easier to use than the console maybe.
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I uploaded another one: MicroMuppyOpera (18 MB).
It has only jwm and wmsetbg and opera 9.10.
I use a "brute force" method to load drivers for ethernet-cards (in a loop I modprobe all *.o.gz in /lib/modules/2.4/net).
Then dhcpcd connects to a network, if available.
This slows down startup a bit, but gives you a good chance to get a working internet -connection on a network-computer, for example if you go online via a router.
I found no solution to disable VT-switching (exit X with ctrl-alt-F1).
This would be important for public internet-terminals.
It seems for this I would have to replace Xvesa with Xorg using a vesa-driver, that allows that via option "DontVTSwitch" in xorg.conf.
I'm too tired for this now.
Mark
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To test the isos in qemu, I downloaded:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Emulators/KQe ... ppy109.pup
Then I added this startscript as "start" in the folder /usr/local/QPuppy109:
Now you can copy your iso there, and run:
/usr/local/QPuppy109/start
no not possible, the windowmanager had to support that.
raffy:
yes, with Puppybasic or bash and xmessage one could write simple tools like a drivemounter
Not as sophisticated as MUT, but easier to use than the console maybe.
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I uploaded another one: MicroMuppyOpera (18 MB).
It has only jwm and wmsetbg and opera 9.10.
I use a "brute force" method to load drivers for ethernet-cards (in a loop I modprobe all *.o.gz in /lib/modules/2.4/net).
Then dhcpcd connects to a network, if available.
This slows down startup a bit, but gives you a good chance to get a working internet -connection on a network-computer, for example if you go online via a router.
I found no solution to disable VT-switching (exit X with ctrl-alt-F1).
This would be important for public internet-terminals.
It seems for this I would have to replace Xvesa with Xorg using a vesa-driver, that allows that via option "DontVTSwitch" in xorg.conf.
I'm too tired for this now.
Mark
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To test the isos in qemu, I downloaded:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Emulators/KQe ... ppy109.pup
Then I added this startscript as "start" in the folder /usr/local/QPuppy109:
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#!/bin/bash
a=/usr/local/QPuppy109
rm -f /tmp/qiso
#ln -s "$a/MicroMuppy002.iso" /tmp/qiso
ln -s "$a/MicroMuppyOpera.iso" /tmp/qiso
cd "$a"
./qemu -std-vga -append 'root=/dev/ram0 PQEMU=1 clock=pit' -m 128 -boot d -cdrom /tmp/qiso
/usr/local/QPuppy109/start
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Usable - using it now
This is very much usable - am using it now. Thanks, Mark.
Will want to test it on a USB flash, but others can do that for now as I have to finish a LAMP sfs add-on for Puppy 2.01+ and present it tomorrow.
Note: Clock is 16h behind my time (+8 ), or 8h behind GMT.
Will want to test it on a USB flash, but others can do that for now as I have to finish a LAMP sfs add-on for Puppy 2.01+ and present it tomorrow.
Note: Clock is 16h behind my time (+8 ), or 8h behind GMT.
Puppy user since Oct 2004. Want FreeOffice? [url=http://puppylinux.info/topic/freeoffice-2012-sfs]Get the sfs (English only)[/url].
micro muppy is adorable!
it certainly took care of my misunderstanding that the lovely xfe needed xfce wm for some reason (heh)
and it didn't come with much... i've seen the editor before (there's a windows version) but i thought i'd see if it had puppybasic - yep, and version 2.5
so i tried to come up with a fun (read: useless) one line script: (remove "shell ("sleep "& (n mod 2)):" to make it run instantaneously, otherwise it takes 24 seconds)
puppybasic -e 'for n=1 to 48:for s=1 to int(cos(n*3.14*.25)*10+50):print " ";:next s: print chr(27)&"[32m";"C":for s=1 to int(sin(n*3.14*.25)*10+50):print " ";:next s:print chr(27)&"[34m";"s";shell ("sleep "& (n mod 2)):next n:print chr(27)&"[39m":remark="this is public domain"'
it certainly took care of my misunderstanding that the lovely xfe needed xfce wm for some reason (heh)
and it didn't come with much... i've seen the editor before (there's a windows version) but i thought i'd see if it had puppybasic - yep, and version 2.5
so i tried to come up with a fun (read: useless) one line script: (remove "shell ("sleep "& (n mod 2)):" to make it run instantaneously, otherwise it takes 24 seconds)
puppybasic -e 'for n=1 to 48:for s=1 to int(cos(n*3.14*.25)*10+50):print " ";:next s: print chr(27)&"[32m";"C":for s=1 to int(sin(n*3.14*.25)*10+50):print " ";:next s:print chr(27)&"[34m";"s";shell ("sleep "& (n mod 2)):next n:print chr(27)&"[39m":remark="this is public domain"'
sadly, it is not possible to separate politics from free software. free software - politics = unfree software.
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micromuppy opera - worked for me - hooray (go to the first post in this thread for the download)
make the mouse choice first (I did it second and had to crash the machine) and then the res choice
also you go straight into a connected Puppy (most distros do this) tell Barry - if we have DHCP can we auto-connect - we can with micro opera?
This reminds me of Byzantine OS that tried to do everything from a browser
A minimal set of on line apps like so, might be of interest as a home page
make the mouse choice first (I did it second and had to crash the machine) and then the res choice
also you go straight into a connected Puppy (most distros do this) tell Barry - if we have DHCP can we auto-connect - we can with micro opera?
This reminds me of Byzantine OS that tried to do everything from a browser
A minimal set of on line apps like so, might be of interest as a home page
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