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edoc


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PostPosted: Thu 01 Feb 2007, 01:17    Post subject:  

John Doe wrote:
Sorry, I screwed up and uploaded the source. Embarassed

I fixed it now and tested. It seem to work.

Redownload, install and type "gpsdrive" at the shell. I just ran it on puppy 2.13beta2. It loads right up.


It is just too beautiful! THANKS!!

There is a pop-up window warning to not run it as Root. Is that expected?

Now I will HAVE to get me a GPS! Smile

This really helps to round out the apps for Puppy:

Office
Internet Apps
Wired & Wireless Networking
GPS
Audio & Video Processing
Amateur Radio apps
Bible study (some work still needed there)
And more ...

Now to get this all on my new 2G USB stick for USB-boot & run!

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brad_chuck

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Feb 2007, 09:38    Post subject: Linux GPS  

Make positive that the GPS unit works with linux!

I think they have a list on the GPSdrive website.
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Feb 2007, 21:31    Post subject: Re: Linux GPS  

brad_chuck wrote:
Make positive that the GPS unit works with linux!
I think they have a list on the GPSdrive website.


For some reason there is no date stamp on that Web page so I cannot tell if that
list is current or a couple of years old -- especially considering that the date stamp
elsewhere for the most recent updates on the site are in 2004.

EDIT:
Just saw a post stamped thus:
"by JoergOstertag - Jan 8th 2006 11:43:25" on the http://freshmeat.net/projects/gpsdrive/ site so good news re. 2005 activity.

Not sure about 2006 or 2007.

I finally succeeded in subscribing to the gpsdrive discussion list and have posted my
question about Bluetooth GPS devices there.
END EDIT

I am looking at things like the BT-5 Bluetooth GPS Receiver w/Car Charger (Unitraq
International Co.) -- neat idea to not have to fuss with wires!

Here is their supported GPS list, none mention Bluetooth:

* Magellan 310, 315, 320
* Garmin GPS III
* Garmin etrex
* GPS 45
* Crux II GPS PCMCIA card
* Holux GM-200 serial version
* Holux GM-200 USB (needs USB to serial support in kernel)
* eMap
* GPSMAP 295
* GNS 530
* Garmin GPS 12MAP
* EAGLE Expedition II
* DeLorme Earthmate (serial version)
* Rayming TripNav, TN-200
* Deluo USB GPS
* Magellan Meridian Gold (works only with NMEA V2.1 GSA setting)
* NAVILock GPS Receiver (http://www.navilock.de)
* Haicom GPS HI204e
* Magellan Nav 6500
* BendixKing KLX 100
* Motorola i58sr Cellular Phone w/built-in NMEA-compatible GPS

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G4MJW

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 07:16    Post subject:  

Hi . . . . I'm new to Puppy (new to Linux) and have 2.13 running from a CF Card(IDE) on a VIA Mini-ITX Motherboard + Vibrant 10.4" LCD Display. A miniature setup for use on a miniature Yacht! Everything in Puppy that I want to use, works OK . . . . . .

BUT can someone tell me how to install gpsdrive-2.10pre2.tar.gz. Is there an easy "Installer" somewhere that will make life easy for me?

Many thanks - Steve
Project: http://www.microyacht.com
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 09:28    Post subject:  

G4MJW wrote:
Hi . . . . I'm new to Puppy (new to Linux) and have 2.13 running from a CF Card(IDE) on a VIA Mini-ITX Motherboard + Vibrant 10.4" LCD Display. A miniature setup for use on a miniature Yacht! Everything in Puppy that I want to use, works OK . . . . . .

BUT can someone tell me how to install gpsdrive-2.10pre2.tar.gz. Is there an easy "Installer" somewhere that will make life easy for me?

Many thanks - Steve
Project: http://www.microyacht.com


You install it as an "Alien" package using the Setup - Puppy Package Manager - PetGet Package Manager - ...binary tarball (it is the second down from from the top)

HTH ...

BTW: Can you describe that MoBo/LCD a bit more, perhaps comparing it to a typical
desktop PC? Other than the obvious, the display is smaller, how well does it handle
large Internet downloads, especially video? Does it offer the usual USB, Serial, etc?
How much RAM are you using? Are you using wireless mouse and keyboard? What
case did you use? I did look around for the Vibrant 10.4 LCD. Is it only available in
Europe generally and for POS systems? What is the cost, please?

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 11:01    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 19:08    Post subject:  

I used PupGet Package Manager and GPsDrive seemed to install OK. Well, never gave me any choices where it went etc. I can't actually find a folder in the root or anywhere else called something like: gpsdrive. There are loads of files starting in gpsdrive.??? . . . many ending in .h Even found the spinning world (Animated gif) and the large world map! B U T I can't find anything that launches the program . . . let alone a desktop icon? What am I missing (apart from a brain)?

The little monitor cost me 30 GB Pounds, about $50? It' just like new. In a tiny boat like Puffin, I'll be sitting right in front of the monitor for much of the time, hopefully displaying charts or movies or writing up notes in Abiword!

12V to power this lot is another story!

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John Doe

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Feb 2007, 03:20    Post subject:  

G4MJW wrote:
I can't find anything that launches the program


type 'gpsdrive' in a shell and hit enter

You can put that in a script also and click on it.

ALien packages are the quickest, easiest and dirtiest way to get a new package into your system. You don't get any menu entries, but at least you can use it.

Please report back whatever your experience is, so we can all continue to move forward with this.
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Feb 2007, 15:10    Post subject:  

Quote:
type 'gpsdrive' in a shell and hit enter


Mmmmm did that but I get: "Command not found"

Quote:
sh-3.00# gpsdrive (enter)
sh: gpsdrive: command not found
sh-3.00#


Am I in the correct directory? I guess gpsdrive is looking for a batch file or an executable file somewhere.

UPDATE: I've re-installed Puppy on a second CF Card and together with a new install of gpsdrive, which was download directly on the same machine to the ROOT directory. I've checked the: gpsdrive.files and I have found every file listed in various folders. Still won't launch. Now 5 hours later . . . . I have almost no hair left! Running out of things to try. H.E.L.P !

Steve/G4MJW
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Feb 2007, 15:34    Post subject:  

to run a program in the current working directory, you need to specify the path, either the absolute path to the executable, or ./gpsdrive
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Feb 2007, 16:24    Post subject:  

Just to double check. You are downloading the alien package in this post and not the source off their site (they have exactly the same name)?

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=94174#94174

You should get /usr/bin/gpsdrive after you install it.
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Feb 2007, 18:07    Post subject:  

Thanks everyone for your patients and help . . . . . . . . . YES, that's what I did had the wrong file. First time round, I downloaded the correct file from this forum site but after deciding to rip out the hard drive and see if it would all install and run from a CF card, which it does I then got the machine on the network and was able to download directly onto this machine. BUT I'd forgotten that the files on gpsdrive.cc site have not been compiled!

Anyway, it's loaded and I'm having a look around in the prog for the first time! I'm sue I'll be back with some more questions shortly!

I have one already . . . . . are any of the suitable GPS's listed a USB MOUSE type IE: NO built-in display? It needs to be self powered through the USB cable and mast mounted a few feet above the cabin in a sealed dome unit. No display is needed on the unit it's self.

Thanks again . . .

Steve/G4MJW

http://www.microyacht.com
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr 2007, 16:52    Post subject:  

G4MJW wrote:

Anyway, it's loaded and I'm having a look around in the prog for the first time! I'm sue I'll be back with some more questions shortly!

I have one already . . . . . are any of the suitable GPS's listed a USB MOUSE type IE: NO built-in display? It needs to be self powered through the USB cable and mast mounted a few feet above the cabin in a sealed dome unit. No display is needed on the unit it's self.

Thanks again . . .

Steve/G4MJW
http://www.microyacht.com


Have you looked at this one?

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=UT-41&cpc=RECOM

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2008, 17:00    Post subject:  

edoc wrote:
It is just too beautiful! THANKS!!

There is a pop-up window warning to not run it as Root. Is that expected?

Now I will HAVE to get me a GPS! Smile

For what it's worth, I installed GPSDrive (and gpsd) back in Puppy 1.09. I did it by compiling from source, though a dot-pup would sure be nice at some point. The nice thing about compiling from source, though, is the ability to change it. I went into the code and commented out the "don't run as root" warning. Problem solved! Smile

It looks like there is some preliminary work on a new version, with a pre-alpha version made available... looks like October 2007. That's a long time without improvement, and no news in several months now... I guess I've gotten spoiled to the rapid improvements in Puppy.

The current (2004) version has several annoyances in the UI, and is in dire need of someone with less experience with the code and more experience in screen design. I ought to jump in and help, but I barely have time (or brain cells) enough to write the code I get *paid* to write. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Mar 2008, 17:11    Post subject:  

Perhaps someone will notice this thread who can help.

It has been 11 months between my post and yours.

Puppy 3.01 brought some really valuable features but development appears to have been suspended in favor of the 4.xx project.

I like the idea of the Puppy developers stripping Puppy to bare minimum and then building an extremely efficient core upon which a variety of "Puplets" may be built with a very clear awareness of how things work.

A chronic problem with OS's is as they grow they become so complex that no one really understands how all of the elements interact - it gets to be more like voodoo than technology.

I remember this as being true of Apple-Mac in years past and generally true of MS versions of windows from Win95 on.

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