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Many apps don't work at all; frequent lockups

Posted: Fri 19 Jan 2007, 01:11
by VinceIP
There's a lot of apps that simply will not load for me when I try to run them. A few examples are Dosemu, ZSNES, and the alternative Puppy Software Installer. When I click on them from Menu -> DotPups, absolutely nothing happens. Why is this?

I should also note that I can get Azureus to run, but after about 30 seconds or so the application freezes, much like it would freeze in Windows XP. It just sits there displaying the same menu, no matter what I click. It won't close either, unless I Kill it.

It happens significantly less then application freezes, but sometimes the entire OS locks up, including my mouse cursor. This happened today when I was running LimeWire and the CPU-usage bar went totally red. Is there anything I can do to prevent this?

Oh, and one more unrelated issue.... I can't compile any tar balls! I tried to do it with Dosemu, and couldn't, before I found a .pup for it. I KNOW I followed all the instructions perfectly. I put the source in /usr/src/, read the INSTALL and READMEs, opened the console and tried to Makefile, but I get a 'permission denied' error.

Posted: Fri 19 Jan 2007, 01:24
by sunburnt
Hi VinceIP; Post the following & hopefully someone will jump in & help.

Puppy version your using.
How much memory your PC has.
Are you using a swap partition or file, & it's size?

wow

Posted: Fri 19 Jan 2007, 01:48
by brad_chuck
Hi,
Sounds like you are havening trouble all over the place.. First off Puppy does not ship with the ability to compile source tar balls. The distro is something like 90% smaller than most distros so as you would expect some things are left out.

To fix this your must install a file named devx_213.sfs the instructions for doing this is here. It's at the bottom under C/C++ Compileing

http://www.puppylinux.com/hard-puppy.htm

and the file is here

http://www.puppyos.net/test/

About the locking up... Don't know what is going on there but it is most likely a bad dotpup or a conflict with librarys... nasty stuff

As of today Puppy does not do so well with dependences but Barry is working on this with the PET package manager. So hang in there..

You may have to do a reinstall... :cry:

Post more info about your install and I or someone else will try to help you patch it up..

Posted: Fri 19 Jan 2007, 02:11
by VinceIP
I'm using Puppy Linux 2.13
256 MB of RAM
I'm using a swap file, 1 GB.

Thanks for those links, brad. I thought I already installed that file, but I guess not. I'll reboot, try to compile something, and report back with my results.

?

Posted: Fri 19 Jan 2007, 02:28
by brad_chuck
What was the last dotpup you installed before the problems started happening?

Posted: Fri 19 Jan 2007, 02:35
by VinceIP
Probably Wine, Firefox, or LimeWire.

Anyway, I just tried to compile. I get the error 'no rule to make target "makefile". Stop.' I guess I am compiling wrong. I cd to the app's source, and type 'make makefile'. How should I be doing this?

Posted: Fri 19 Jan 2007, 06:40
by Pizzasgood
Usually there is a script named 'configure' that you run first. It would have parameters to configure things about the program, like disabling different parts, or installing to an alternate directory. Usually you don't need any of them, just run it. After that you just run 'make' to compile, and 'make install' to install.

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cd /wherever/
./configure
make
make install
If there is no 'configure' script, you just skip that step.

Also useful to know:

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make clean
starts fresh, with nothing compiled or configured

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make uninstall
sometimes will uninstall it

Posted: Fri 19 Jan 2007, 07:12
by wow
VinceIP wrote:There's a lot of apps that simply will not load for me when I try to run them. A few examples are Dosemu, ZSNES, and the alternative Puppy Software Installer. When I click on them from Menu -> DotPups, absolutely nothing happens. Why is this?

I should also note that I can get Azureus to run, but after about 30 seconds or so the application freezes, much like it would freeze in Windows XP. It just sits there displaying the same menu, no matter what I click. It won't close either, unless I Kill it.
This happen sometimes when you're out of disk space. Is your pup_save.*fs full?¿ If the answer is yes, make it bigger. And, don't forget to set the "tmp" directory to somewhere else(another ext3/ext2 partition) if you're planning to still using Azureus or any similar app.

Same here !

Posted: Thu 01 Feb 2007, 00:57
by newbie_tom
I am having exactly the same problem.

I am new to puppy and linux - 2 days experience so far but am getting the same crashes by the sounds of it.

My Setup

Puppy 2.13, Limewire Pro, Firefox, Wine & open office.

When first running i was getting constant crashes until i installed the Nvidia drivers for my gfx card - this seems to have cured nearly all of them.

The whole system hangs regularly when i am using limewire, particularly when browsing at the sametime (firefox or seamonkey) and also many of my apps do not work - just click on them and nothing.

As far as the limewire/crash problem - i have plenty of disc space; i'm running with a 3gb swap and have 550Mb left on my save file.

PC is AMD XP64x2
512MB GeForce 6600
1GB Ram

I was wondering if there is an issue with Java and this version of puppy??
or maybe a graphics card issue?

Or maybe an issue with limewire?? (all saved limewire downloads are going to a separate drive to any puppy stuff so i dont think its space)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated - my knowledge of computers is very limited and i would really like to get these glitches sorted and keep running puppy.


Cheers
Tom

hi

Posted: Thu 01 Feb 2007, 13:55
by brad_chuck
Hi Tom, Welcome.

I have not seen your system but I have tryed limewire on my system and as I r ember it sank like a rock! The one I was using at the time was a P4 3.2 Ghz 670 MB Ram............

Use aMule, it is not as fast but it is GTK.

http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/WxG ... ode.tar.gz
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Peer_2_Peer/a ... 1.3.tar.gz

Or if you have to have something like limewire frostwire works ok to.

Posted: Thu 01 Feb 2007, 15:23
by newbie_tom
Thanks brad will give it a go.

Problem with apps not running cured! (i think)

Running PPracer in console i found i was missing a library:

ref here..


http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 805&t=2482


Once i installed the library it worked perfectly - also zsnes now loads up - i was getting nothing before (although i have no roms yet to try on it)