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Save directories to multisession DVDs using "growisofs"
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tallboy


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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jun 2011, 02:19    Post subject:  

Well, that worked just as intended, apart from one small thing, see details below. I used multisession on a DVD-R disk, and made a directory named applications for Gramps, and all othe programs I want to have within reach. I discovered that updating the .gramps file that contains all data, is smart to do in a separate directory. When I first tried to save .gramps to the gramps dir, it simply spilled the contents into the dir, and the dotfile was nowhere to be found. Trying to be smart and rename to dot-gramps did not help, it just updated the loose files, and dot-gramps could not be found. When I did a new test dir, and moved the .gramps file into a dir called dot-gramps, and saved that dir instead, it worked. The .gramps file is always up to date. You can see the screenshot for details. I also made some new dirs for more programs, and they listed nicely within the application dir on the disk.

I wonder if there is a method to find the earlier saves, as only the latest are listed, maybe they need a date attached.

Tallboy.

BTW, the Gramps and it's deps installed and was ready to run in less than a minute.
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jun 2011, 09:18    Post subject:  

Excellent. Thanks for the feedback. What do the contents of the DVD look like through Windows?
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jun 2011, 11:48    Post subject: Can save to a Multi-session CD-R too.  

Live Media Information
On one earlier question on adding folder/files to your LIve "CD", the answer is YES; this works same for a multi-session CD as it does on multi-session DVD.

Only distinctions that I am aware of, is, CD-R cannot be erased and re-used. like you can with a CD-RW. But for multi-session use, it works exactly the same for both media; namely you can add additional data after initiial burn..

This applies to DVD media (DVDR vs DVDRW) also.

Hope this helps

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jun 2011, 21:31    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
What do the contents of the DVD look like through Windows?


When I look out through my windows, I see trees and birds, but cannot see a single DVD content! Laughing Laughing Laughing

I've run Debian since v.3.0 for all heavy stuff at home, Mac before that, Puppy since v.2.13/2.14 or thereabouts, RedHat Enterprise at the university. We do have Windoze at the uni, but most of us prefer Linux. I'll bring the DVD along and take a look in 'doze.

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jun 2011, 21:34    Post subject:  

Well, just take a look at the DVD in Windows. See if it looks different from the way it does in Puppy.
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jun 2011, 23:00    Post subject:  

Flash, will do.

Just to clarify for all; I forgot to add a screenshot showing all the content of / on the DVD above. The multisession DVD used in the screenshots is the one dpup_4.85 is booted from, so all directories are additions that are not read at bootup, but available when the disc is mounted.

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Jun 2011, 02:38    Post subject: Adding SFSs to a Muli-session LiveCD/DVD  

Flash, after looking at your earlier question on Tuesday, I realize that I might not have given you an answer you were looking for.

You CAN add a file-folder to an existing Multi-session CD/DVD. and have these available to the system whenever you subsequently use that media. I'm sure you were already aware of this. But, I think your question may have been more along the line of whether "properly" placed SFS could be "drawn" into the desktop system, same as is done using frugal/full installation.

This is what I found:
About SFS(s) question, Yes, writing SFSs having them available to the system the next time you boot will NOT natively cause Puppy to pick up the SFSs, even though, I structured it in the same folders that a frugal/full system expects for SFS processing.
Flash wrote:
... if you're still following this thread, did that work? Did the Puppy DVD find and use the OpenOffice.sfs file when it booted?
LightHouse is the ONLY distro with technology for doing this, currently, for new startup Live media boots
LightHouse will, when booting using pfix=ram,sfsconfig <=== This tells the system to "embrace" all SFSs found on the booting Live media for inclusion into the LightHouse desktop..

For all other Puppy distros, one must use Shinobar's or JRB's SFS Linking utilities for managing SFSs on Live media systems after booting to their desktops.

Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Jun 2011, 10:49    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
For all other Puppy distros, one must use Shinobar's or JRB's SFS Linking utilities for managing SFSs on Live media systems after booting to their desktops.


Since SFSs are just squashfs files, why not use the mount command to loop mount it read only?

I haven't tried this but it seems like it should work (?)

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 01:26    Post subject:  

@ Flash and
@ tallboy
@ gcmartin
AND ANYONE ELSE ! Laughing
The M/S tricks you guys have exchanged in the above !
Its too bad there wasn't a thread where these different little tricks could be kept in one place for anyone who would like to share and exchange Wink
I dont know maybe already is one ? Confused

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 07:56    Post subject:  

Um, isn't this is that thread? Confused
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 11:56    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
Um, isn't this is that thread? Confused

Sorry Flash Confused
I guess I have been looking in the wrong places Confused
I looked for :
Tips & Tricks Using puppy as a M/S CD DVD
Alternative ways to use your M/S puppy
etc .
This tread is titled :
Save directories to DVD+RW as sessions, using growisofs
So this would go for frugal installs too Wink
The title doesn't say anything about M/S puppy !
I am not trying to be an _ss here just saying Wink

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 16:37    Post subject:  

That's Okay. I do what I can to make the forum beginner-friendly, but it's still going to be a learning experience.

I have never used the abbreviation M/S to mean multisession, so you'd never have found it. (My first thought when I see M/S is Microsoft, and for sure no newcomer to Puppy would know what M/S means.)
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 17:02    Post subject:  

I used ms 4 multisession but people like Flash get confused Shocked There was a funny misunderstanding on one of my threads months ago when I used MS for multisession and others thought Microsoft it read either way. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 18:18    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
That's Okay. I do what I can to make the forum beginner-friendly, but it's still going to be a learning experience.

I have never used the abbreviation M/S to mean multisession, so you'd never have found it. (My first thought when I see M/S is Microsoft, and for sure no newcomer to Puppy would know what M/S means.)

I agree with you flash but now you understand what i am trying to say Very Happy
It would be nice if there was a thread where everyone could share various ways to use puppy running on a multi-session cd dvd blue ray etc.
And these ways are tested and truly work Wink
Also the thread should be sticky Wink
This way there is info for beginners to start learning about running multi-session puppy Wink

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 18:21    Post subject:  

Ted Dog wrote:
There was a funny misunderstanding on one of my threads months ago when I used MS for multisession and others thought Microsoft it read either way. Razz

I read that post Ted Dog Wink

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