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Posted: Sun 24 Dec 2006, 18:17
by Pizzasgood
Yes, "all the desktop icons dissapear". Lobster was talking about icons, not windows disappearing.
The icons are a part of Rox. If all of Rox is killed, then so are the icons.
rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin will revive the desktop with the new Rox.

Posted: Sun 24 Dec 2006, 19:13
by Flash
In 2.12, I noticed that sometimes when I close a window the icons on the desktop all disappear for a moment, but they have always come back on their own. I hadn't realized it isn't supposed to do that. :lol:

Starting ROX

Posted: Sun 24 Dec 2006, 22:02
by Kal
Rox is not starting on a reboot for me. Something wrong in .xinitrc, so I changed it out for 2.12's .xinitrc and it's all right for now. I think Pizzagood is right.
Kal

Posted: Sun 24 Dec 2006, 22:13
by BarryK
Okay, I'll be testing the Xorg Wizard on a wider range of hardware,
particularly old PCs, over the next few days.
I have been away from home, and at home I have Out house table stacked
high with old PCs!

Posted: Mon 25 Dec 2006, 02:41
by kirk
Maybe this is just disabled for beta, but if you put the pup_213.sfs file on the same partition as the pup_save.2fs file, Pupppy still loads the pup_213.sfs from CD when booting.

Rox icons disappearing

Posted: Mon 25 Dec 2006, 06:31
by DesertPuppy
First off let me say 2.13beta is awesome!!!, It is the best boot up so far, the only thing I had to do was run the network wizard and I was up on the internet.
As far as the MTU removing the desktop when you unmount, I had never seen that before so I experimented, I have always closed the window before I unmounted a drive and never had that problem, but sure as can be if I leave the window open and unmount with MTU then everything does disappear, with Pmount it works fine with or without the window closed. I guess sense I always closed the window first I never seen that bug in 2.12.

One last thing I am so glad we have updated ROX, I have always had to download the dotpup with each new version now it's all set to go, great job on the new version everyone, I will test more over the next few days.

Re: Starting ROX

Posted: Mon 25 Dec 2006, 09:19
by BarryK
Kal wrote:Rox is not starting on a reboot for me. Something wrong in .xinitrc, so I changed it out for 2.12's .xinitrc and it's all right for now. I think Pizzagood is right.
Kal
Kal, I can't reproduce that.
Does that happen with a pristine 2.13?

ROX 2.5 freeze on /proc directory

Posted: Mon 25 Dec 2006, 12:30
by ferikenagy
from ROX clicking an /proc directory simply freeze the rox windows, on /sys works fine, the freezed rox windows can be killed but desktop icon and background dissapears too. I have 256RAM AMD athlon 1.4Gb........so maybe it's some bug with new ROX not MUT...who knows......uXplore 2 panel works fine with /proc......

Posted: Mon 25 Dec 2006, 12:42
by Kal
Barry, It was a pristine frugal install, no upgrade, with pup_213.sfs, zdrv_212.sfs, dev_213.sfs, pup_save.2fs. in Window 2000 with Fat 32. As soon as I put the original .xinitrc back in, there was no start of rox. I had been changing backgrounds with Puppybackground and rox backdrop. Must have been a minor fluke with backgrounds. Because now after playing with other things, options in rox, and time pasting, I put the original .xinitrc back in again and all is good. It was repeatable at the time, but not now.
Good Luck, Kal

ROX freeze on /proc directory

Posted: Mon 25 Dec 2006, 17:25
by ferikenagy
it seems it is an ROX 2.5 problem: freezing on /proc directory. I tested on muppy 006 too (not only puppy 2.13beta) based on puppy 2.12 , it has ROX 2.5 an d ROX 1.x, so I switch between them and the old ROX 1.x is working ok on /proc directory ,but ROX 2.5 is freezing on same directory, and of course the desktop items and desktop bakground too have problems..

Posted: Mon 25 Dec 2006, 19:56
by Kal
ferikenagy
Same story here with rox 2.5, this problem may be related to what I ran into. I never entered /proc directory in my playing. The dotpup for rox 2.5 did the same on Puppy 2.12, as you.
Good Luck, Kal

PS:
I discovered that if you turn off "show image thumbnails" in ROX-Filer>Options>Thumbnails, that the problem with opening /proc stops. But, of course you don't have thumbnails.

Posted: Mon 25 Dec 2006, 23:02
by kirk
rom ROX clicking an /proc directory simply freeze the rox windows, on /sys works fine, the freezed rox windows can be killed but desktop icon and background dissapears too.
Yes, me too.

Posted: Tue 26 Dec 2006, 10:20
by debernardis
Would you try screen lock please? Both on a pristine 2.13 beta and with my .3fs addons it doesn't work.

2.13b bug

Posted: Tue 26 Dec 2006, 16:16
by brad_chuck
The live CD works great... I use the installer to install Puppy on my SATA hardrive.

when this install is booted I get this error message.

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Uncompressing Linux....  OK, booting the  kernel
Bad inittab entry: id:2:initdefault;
Bad inittab entry:  pf::powerwait:/etc/init.d/powerfail start
Bad inittab entry:  pn::powerfailnow:/etc/init.d/powerfail now
Bad inittab entry:  po::powerokwait:/etc/init.d/powerfial stop
this is my computer http://www.shop.com/op/~Toshiba_U205_S5 ... urceid=298

MUT makes the desktop disappear

Posted: Wed 27 Dec 2006, 00:44
by raffy
Pizzasgood:
The icons are a part of Rox. If all of Rox is killed, then so are the icons.
rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin will revive the desktop with the new Rox.
So this is the fix needed for MUT? I really like MUT for its nice graphical display. Plus, it's programmed in TCL, so it must be a good companion of HV3 in Puppy.

Posted: Wed 27 Dec 2006, 02:06
by kirk
I can't print from Mozilla. I can print to a file and then print the file from Xpdq. (I've got a postscript printer) Anybody able to print?

Posted: Wed 27 Dec 2006, 03:52
by Kal
Installed cups for my printer (HP 3740) and it's working as usual.
Kal

Posted: Wed 27 Dec 2006, 07:33
by pakt
Ok, I 've had a chance to test 2.13beta a little more and have found the following unreported bugs (running with pfix=RAM):

1. Installing Puppy to 'USB Flash drive' using Puppy Univ. Installer. Using 'sda1: vfat, size 122.4 MiB'. I chose 'sys-nopart.mbr' like usual. Then I get to the menu where I chose 'Syslinux', also like usual, click 'OK' and the next thing that happens is the CD drawer opens (with the 2.13beta CD)! Nothing is written to the flash drive. I've tried this with two different drives that have worked before.

2. Menu -> Control Panel -> Top doesn't work - nothing happens. Executing 'top' in a terminal works fine.

3. Menu -> Internet -> Axel opens menu to insert URL. Add URL then click 'OK' - Axel disappears. Check with KP - no such process. Axel works fine from CLI.

4. Clicking in ROX on a .log file doesn't have a run action. Used to open the file in the default editor.

Paul

Posted: Wed 27 Dec 2006, 09:05
by Kal
Paul
Barry is not keeping mrxvt, but, if you want to make your top entry in /root/.jwmrc like this. than it will works from the menu. It's showing rxvt at the time and is an oversight.

<Program label="Top view running processes" icon="mini-run.xpm">mrxvt -e top</Program>

Kal

Posted: Wed 27 Dec 2006, 09:46
by pakt
Kal wrote: <Program label="Top view running processes" icon="mini-run.xpm">mrxvt -e top</Program>
Thanks Kal. Yes, that works.

I discovered that rxvt (which is now a wrapper for mrxvt) balks at the '-n' switch in the line
rxvt -font 7x14 -bg "#c0c0c0" -fg black -T Top -n Top -e top
The line works when I remove it.