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MU · Posted: Fri 15 Dec 2006, 13:36 Post subject:

I will update my XP-installer this weekend, then it will be very easy to set up.
Mark

zikarus · Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 12

Moin Mark,

could you please include the proposal of pakt on page 7 in the Muppy 004/005 thread (concerning the better detection of wireless keyboards and mouses) as default in your next release?

I quote pakt:

"I have suggested to Barry that the test be made on "Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02" which, as far as I have been able to determine, is a more reliable way to detect a USB mouse.

If you would like to test this, edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local0 and change line 191 from
Quote:
[ ! "`cat /proc/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null | grep -i --extended-regexp "mouse|trackball|netscroll|bt mini\-receiver"`" = "" ] && USBMOUSEDEV="input/mice"
to
Quote:
[ ! "`cat /proc/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null | grep -i "Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02"`" = "" ] && USBMOUSEDEV="input/mice"

Don't forget to reboot after modifying the file or Puppy won't save the change to pup_save.3fs. After rebooting, your mouse (and keyboard) should be detected."

It did work and would be great to have out of the box....

BR
zikarus

MU · Posted: Fri 15 Dec 2006, 14:51 Post subject:

ok, I'll add it to 007.
Thanks for the quick-instruction.
Mark

primalphunk · Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 20

I have experienced a little quirky issue with icedock on both my full hd install and with the live cd. It is an intermittent issue in which sometimes the programs in icedock load normally into a single dock(slit?) and other times there is a seperate window and tab for each program launched in icedock.

The shadow option in styling blanks everything between the taskbars at the top and bottom of the screen. It leaves me with a cursor that I can still move around the screen with no ability to click on anything. I just restart x with ctrl-alt-backspace to return to a functional system. This happens with both the traditional linux hd install and the live cd.

I'm not sure if it makes any difference but I'm runny these 2 muppy installs on a 400 Mhz Celeron with 320 Meg of RAM.

peace,
James

PS - Thanks for your hard work on this puplet. Muppy is now my favorite larger puppy.

tazoc · Posted: Mon 18 Dec 2006, 04:09 Post subject:

MU · Posted: Mon 18 Dec 2006, 12:54 Post subject:

yes, the program for shadows has bugs.
On my system (Ati radeon 9250) with freedesktop-drivers it runs fine at first sight, but after a while the performance decreases.
Same on my notebook with savage-chip.

I already added some workarounds to the backgroundsetter to deal with problems regarding the background, but they might not work with every card.

If you use Rox1, you might encounter a strangely broken background with xcompmgr.
In that case try rox2, as it uses an own window to hide the root-window.
This is the same trick used by KDE.

You can switch rox with
setrox1
or
setrox2

But rox2 already is set by default in Muppy006, so if you still encounter erratic display, I cannot help.
It seems the development stopped, as now the developers of X focus on 3D-accellerated desktops with aiglx and the compiz windowmanager.
You would need xorg 7.1 and an accellerated graficscard, the list of supported cards is not so good yet.

#########################
Icedock
the new wizard starts it differently.
In Muppy, every dockapp was run by a script.
The wizard now uses the icedock-configurationfile /root/.Muppyicedock/icedock.rc instead, to load them (this file is created/modified by the wizard).
But even with this method, sometimes a dockapp is "overseen" and opens in an own window. I must restart it then.

I will add a desktop-icon in muppy 007 to restart the dock.
You can try that by dragging
/usr/local/Muppy-icedock/Muppy-icedock
on your desktop and click on it.

Mark

MU · Posted: Tue 19 Dec 2006, 20:31 Post subject:

this german thread reports a bug:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13788

Muppy tries to get a IP by a dhcp-server (usually if you connect to a network or DSL-modem).

But in some cases, you must assign own settings with the network-wizard.

Those are not remembered after a reboot.

Solution:

delete these lines from /etc/rc.d/rc.muppy2:

jam · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 245

Mark,

Promised you these files awhile back to get video feeds from websites working by default under Muppy and Firefox. You need to extract the attached file under the /usr/local/firefox/plugins directory. Also be sure to have all the latest Puppy Mplayer codecs installed via PSI and pupget as well as the latest verson of Firefox 2..0.0.1. Now, my only disclaimer is that this will not support video feeds from every website, but it is a step up from what Muppy offers by default. Try playing video from CNN and go to other of your favorite video sites and let me know if you experience any problems. One issue that I'm working on relates to Firefox shutting down once a CNN video has finished playing. Also trying to make this work for ALL sites, not just a select few.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Very Happy

UPDATE: When you look under Firefox' Edit--> Preferences --> Content --> File Type/Manage you should see a slew of media file type associations being displayed, which is your confirmation that your extract went well.

pakt · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 1094 Location: Sweden

tempestuous · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5336 Location: Australia

jam and Mark,
a few months ago I went looking for good MPlayer/Firefox compatibility. I didn't keep detailed notes, but I remember that mplayerplugin was not successful with all media typees. Also, it's very large: 1.2MB when installed.

mozplugger (an updated version of plugger) won't play all media types either, but it's configurable, and using instructions from here http://bugzilla.mozdev.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10224 I modified its configuration file to make it compatible with streaming WindowsMedia and RealVideo.
Get mozplugger dotpup here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=82705#82705
The mozplugger plugin installs to the location which suits Puppy's Seamonkey, so for Firefox you will need to shift it from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ to /usr/local/firefox/plugins/

MU · Posted: Tue 26 Dec 2006, 14:43 Post subject:

with mozplugger I can see nothing, there are only some symbols displayed.

Mozilla-plugin works, but:
the video-driver must be set to x11, because with xv it crashes.
Seamonkey runs unstable, so it is important to put it in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, not in /root/.mozilla/plugins.

It seems, Firefox 2.0.0.1 is required to run stable.

I made a dotpup, that replaces Muppys firefox with all these changes.
It will not use the plugin for .mpg or .wmv, as I personally prefer to see them in an external mplayer (looping fullscreen).
But now this plugin enables you to watch streaming videos at cnn.com and bbc.com.

Requires approx. 20 MB free diskspace.

http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Muppylinux/Muppy-006-212-servicepack-firefox-upgrade.pup (9 MB)

Mark

jam · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 245

Tempestuous,

The attachment I provided contains the version of the Mplayer plugin which runs the streaming video right from within the browser window and not via the Mplayer app outside the browser. I found I had to add the file associations and necessary codecs to get the plugin to work properly and supporting Windows/Real/Quicktime and other media types you mentioned. This may not be the best solution in the long run, but it works for now and at the very least provides some basic streaming support for some websites. One issue that causes Firefox to crash involved Flash-based sites that offer video streaming. Still trying to figure those out.

Mark: Forgot to mention that small detail regarding the use of the X11 driver! Good catch! Smile

tempestuous · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5336 Location: Australia

It seems there is no straightforward solution!

Nevermore · Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 365 Location: Italy

today i was trying to use my psi to add some programs
and seems it doesn't work again
it tried to connect to grafpup, but can't and then i get an empty list..
connects to all the other mirrors but still cannot get a list.
i wonder what happened..

MU · Posted: Thu 28 Dec 2006, 17:34 Post subject:

it seems grafpup is down.
I can press the keys "CTRL C" to interrupt trying to get the list from grafpup, then all others are downloaded and displayed.

You also might click on the "mirror" button, and revove grafpup there after the current mirrorlist was downloaded.

Mark