Muppy 006

[MU]

there was a bug in my rxvt-wrapper, that caused that the "lock" icon on the desktop did not work.
Other applications might be affected too, if they use something like
rxvt -title "xxxSPACExxx"

bugfix (9 kb):

http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Muppylinux/Mu ... cepack.pup

Mark

[ezeze5000]

I'm running Muppy 006 right now (Full HD install) And it is real sweet.
Installed with Xorg, and I like the fonts (real clean).
I haven't had a chance to try all the bells and whistles yet.
But I like it a lot so far.

PS: I had no issues with the install (it went real smooth).

[jam]

Mark,

This is just one for your "wish list". I'm a big fan of PSI and appreciate your "service-pack" concept. That said, it would great to have a feature in Puppy to automatically apply critical service packs specific to a particular distro similar to features found in enterprise-grade versions of Linux. This would require some work and is not imperative but just something to add to the idea exchange.

[Nevermore]

i found a strange problem with psi
i tried to update the mirrorlist, since i was getting all the packages unsorted into one dir
but it tries to connect to 5.0.0.0 and obviously get nothing..
how can i fix it?
moreover i would love my wifi configuration to be retained and reapplied every time i reboot
how can i do that?

[MU]

ezeze5000
Thanks for the feedback

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jam, I plan to add a update-entry to the toolbox.

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nevermore, no idea at moment.
Maybe the server is not reachable temporarily?
Does it work later, maybe?


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I made a wizard to make it easier to setup the Icewm-dock:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 4047#84047

Will go into Muppy007.

Mark

[Nevermore]

nope Mark
can you please post your config files (for mirrors update only) so that i can overwrite mine that maybe got messed?

[MU]

/root/dotpups-downloads/mirrors.txt

Code: Select all

http://RevolutionNetwork.dyndns.org:8080/PuppyLinux/dotpups.txt
ftp://texasangel.org/pub/dotpups/dotpups.txt
http://grafpup.com/packages/dotpups/dotpups.txt
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/dotpups.txt
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/pupget_packages-1-dotpups.txt
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pupget_packages-1/dotpups.txt

Does it work?
Mark

[Nevermore]

perfectly!
thanks!but damn it, i wish i could make it retain the wireless settings..by the way, where is rutilt?
and more important, i started jwm and now i can't go back to xfce, even with xwin xfce i still have jwm bar menues and so on..
i want old plain muppy

[MU]

rutilt?
Never had a look at that, but if it is in Puppy 2.12, it also is in Muppy006.

xfce?...
Muppy has icewm.

type
xwin starticewm
to start it.
Mark

[Nevermore]

mark it is there
but not displayed on menues..strange..
appears only on jwm.
i installed the office sfs
i notice that if i open office, then i save and close it, then i try to shutdown.
shutdown doesn't do anything.

[MU]

ok, so it misses an entry in /usr/share/applications/
Will add one tomorrow.

OpenOffice... must have a closer look this weekend, I think I did not encounter that yet.
You might do this:
type
ps
This lists all running processes.
If one looks like being from OpenOffice (like swriter), type
kill PROCESSNUMBER

If you can shutdown then, please tell me the whole line you got by "ps".
Muppy also has a "grafical ps", click on the processor-display at bottom right to run it.
Mark

[Fishy]

Muppy -sweet!

I downloaded thunderbird as a pup and set it as default email but when I click on a url link a message of " Cannot start Gnome Browser" appears. I am a little confused by this.

I was going to maintain Sylpheed but it kept stripping graphics from emails and I didn't manage to find an answer to this behavior in the forum.

[MU]

I can't help with thunderbird, but with sylpheed.

configuration - common preferences

display - message

[] Render HTML-messages as text.
Remove the [x], and it should work?

Mark

[MU]

I updated the servicepack, now you have a menuentry for "RutilT" in the setup-menu after restarting Icewm.

http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Muppylinux/Mu ... cepack.pup

Mark

[Nevermore]

mark do u know how to set up the windows boot menu to have a double boot menu, one for puppy one for windows? so that i don't have to use the cd?
Thanks

[MU]

I will update my XP-installer this weekend, then it will be very easy to set up.
Mark

[zikarus]

Moin Mark,

could you please include the proposal of pakt on page 7 in the Muppy 004/005 thread (concerning the better detection of wireless keyboards and mouses) as default in your next release?

I quote pakt:

"I have suggested to Barry that the test be made on "Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02" which, as far as I have been able to determine, is a more reliable way to detect a USB mouse.

If you would like to test this, edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local0 and change line 191 from
Quote:
[ ! "`cat /proc/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null | grep -i --extended-regexp "mouse|trackball|netscroll|bt mini\-receiver"`" = "" ] && USBMOUSEDEV="input/mice"
to
Quote:
[ ! "`cat /proc/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null | grep -i "Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02"`" = "" ] && USBMOUSEDEV="input/mice"

Don't forget to reboot after modifying the file or Puppy won't save the change to pup_save.3fs. After rebooting, your mouse (and keyboard) should be detected."

It did work and would be great to have out of the box....

BR
zikarus

[MU]

ok, I'll add it to 007.
Thanks for the quick-instruction.
Mark

[primalphunk]

I have experienced a little quirky issue with icedock on both my full hd install and with the live cd. It is an intermittent issue in which sometimes the programs in icedock load normally into a single dock(slit?) and other times there is a seperate window and tab for each program launched in icedock.

The shadow option in styling blanks everything between the taskbars at the top and bottom of the screen. It leaves me with a cursor that I can still move around the screen with no ability to click on anything. I just restart x with ctrl-alt-backspace to return to a functional system. This happens with both the traditional linux hd install and the live cd.

I'm not sure if it makes any difference but I'm runny these 2 muppy installs on a 400 Mhz Celeron with 320 Meg of RAM.

peace,
James

PS - Thanks for your hard work on this puplet. Muppy is now my favorite larger puppy.

[tazoc]

I have experienced a little quirky issue with icedock on both my full hd install and with the live cd. It is an intermittent issue in which sometimes the programs in icedock load normally into a single dock(slit?) and other times there is a seperate window and tab for each program launched in icedock.

I installed (booted from Muppy006-212 CD, saved pup_save.3fs to HD at shutdown and then used Muppy Speed-Wizard) on a PIII-500 with 128 MB RAM for a friend last week and experienced the same intermittent issue. Happened often on first powerup boot to the desktop. Apart from that it was just peachy. Then I changed the last line of /root/.icewm/startup
sleep 4 && icedock &
to
sleep 6 && icedock & ...increasing the delay before starting icedock which seemed to help although I can't prove that was it. You could even try sleep 8 if 6 doesn't help. However, on my own PC I installed Mark's great new
Icedock Wizard here as well as the service pack http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Muppylinux/Muppy-006-212-servicepack.pup and noticed that line is removed, so if you haven't already you might try these first.

Mark and others may have more insight into this and the shadow issue. As much as I like the shadow effects of xcompmgr I know that it is experimental/buggy and I find myself turning it off more than on. It seems to work better when starting Puppy or other distros entirely in KDE instead of JWM or Icewm but everything is soooo slow in KDE with the effects enabled. Right now I prefer Muppy with Icewm and no shadows. The most reliable implementation of shadow effects I've seen is elive 17 'Revolution' which is still developmental but did run okay for me--what few times I've used it. But elive Revolution is not Puppy. It's debian based, has a much larger disc space requirement, works best as a full HD install and to me is not as snappy, flexible or user friendly as Muppy. Fast, attractive and lot's of 'bling' but more difficult to configure and get started with than Puppy.

I think Mark, Barry and all those contributing to Puppy have done a fantastic job. I like the new kernel driver zdrv_2xx.sfs strategy and Bitsream Vera TrueType fonts in puppy, unicode/language support improvements and countless enhancements in Muppy. I've been telling my friends about it. Thank you all, especially Mark.

To me, Muppy is like an early Christmas present!