Printing in Puppy: cups-install-v0.3.pup (with Gutenprint)

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#16 Post by Lobster »

Not sure how much of this info needs updating - editing welcome
- anyway have put a link to the new .pup

great stuff

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#17 Post by jason.b.c »

This cup's install .pup dosen't seem to do anything for me...! , What was suppose to happen after it opened the default browser..?

The browser launches , And it shows http://localhost:/631 in the title bar but i get an error message in the middle stating:
UNABLE TO CONNECT.

1. Are you able to browse other sites..?

2. A firewall may be blocking ..... ( i forget the rest )

If i try the command:

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hp-toolbox
nothing happens.. But it seems as though the hp-toolbox.py exists in my

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/Home
directory..

And my printer still dosen't show up in the printer wizard...

So what's going on here...?? Last time i checked you didn't need to be on the internet to access http://localhost:/631 ... :? :roll:
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#18 Post by pakt »

jason.b.c wrote:This cup's install .pup dosen't seem to do anything for me...! , What was suppose to happen after it opened the default browser..?
My guess is that you don't have enough space left in your pup_save file so not all of CUPS got installed.

You might reboot with "puppy pfix=ram" from CD and rename your pup_save file (so you have a safe backup of it), then create a new pup_save file to test the CUPS dotpup on. See if it works then.
jason.b.c wrote:So what's going on here...?? Last time i checked you didn't need to be on the internet to access http://localhost:/631 ... :? :roll:
The browser is not trying to access the internet - it is trying to connect to the CUPS printer web interface in your PC, but it can't find it because something went wrong with the installation.

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#19 Post by jason.b.c »

How much space do i need to have in the puppy save file...?? Mine is 768mb's if i'm not mistaken , And i had to resize my partition from 1 GB to 1.5 GB..

I don't really have much of anything installed or saved up in my puppy system because it dosen't have internet access ( i mean , what would be the point - right..? )

I just don't understand how i Don't have enough space..? :?
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#20 Post by pakt »

jason.b.c wrote:I just don't understand how i Don't have enough space..? :?
As I wrote, that was just a guess as to why you had a problem installing CUPS. As far as I remember that is the only problem anyone has had with the dotpup before.

I really don't know what could be wrong.

Perhaps someone else reading this thread may have a clue...?
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#21 Post by trapster »

The browser launches , And it shows http://localhost:/631 in the title bar but i get an error message in the middle stating:

Try http://localhost:631

You do not need the "/" prior to 631
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#22 Post by pakt »

trapster wrote:Try http://localhost:631

You do not need the "/" prior to 631
Thanks, trapster, for catching that :)

Strange though, because the CUPS dotpup doesn't add the "/"...
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#23 Post by jason.b.c »

trapster wrote:
The browser launches , And it shows http://localhost:/631 in the title bar but i get an error message in the middle stating:

Try http://localhost:631

You do not need the "/" prior to 631
Oh did i get that wrong..? :lol:

I wasn't for sure if i was remembering that correctly , I was almost certain i remembered seeing a "/" at the end there in the title bar...


I'll try it again here soon...
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#24 Post by 3nCrypt »

I've used CUPS before, but have forgotten the proper syntax.

I have a network shared printer running at home off a Windows XP Pro SP2 computer.

- I choose "Unknown Network Device (smb)" in the Admin area.
- I enter this for Device URI: smb://anonymous:anonymous//PCNAME/SHARENAME

Nothing happens when I click on Print Test Page. Am I entering something wrong in the Device URI box?

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#25 Post by 3nCrypt »

Now I don't know if this helped or not but I read some things online that your smb.conf file has to be edited to point to your home workgroup so I edited it to use "HOME" as that's my Windows Workgroup name.

I still can't get CUPS to work, but now LinNeighborhood sees the Workgroup and systems on there.

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#26 Post by jason.b.c »

I still cannot get this thing to work..

I have some 464.58 mb's of free space in the puppy partition , The printer is plugged in during install , and:
does in fact show up in the browser when it is launched , Why dosen't it work...??

I even tried installing it in a puppy live session , And it still wouldn't work...

Unable to connect
Is the message i see ( even in the live session )...
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#27 Post by jason.b.c »

*BUMP*
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#28 Post by GuestToo »

i don't know if this is your problem, but i seem to remember that you must use the exact address that is in the config file ... so if it is configured to allow 127.0.0.1 and you use localhost, it will not work

does http://127.0.0.1:631 work?

or maybe http://127.0.0.1:631/

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#29 Post by jason.b.c »

GuestToo wrote:i don't know if this is your problem, but i seem to remember that you must use the exact address that is in the config file ... so if it is configured to allow 127.0.0.1 and you use localhost, it will not work

does http://127.0.0.1:631 work?

or maybe http://127.0.0.1:631/
Nope..! , Still no luck here..., I still get the error...

Has anybody at all had this trouble..?? Does this dot.pup actually work correctly..??

I'm starting to wonder if the pup is corrupt or something.. ( the download )
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#30 Post by Mstar »

I believe the answer is here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=15094

I fought this same battle for two weeks, then installed smbspool as per the post and CUPS immediately began working.

YMMV, but it worked for me.

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#31 Post by jason.b.c »

Mstar wrote:I believe the answer is here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=15094

I fought this same battle for two weeks, then installed smbspool as per the post and CUPS immediately began working.

YMMV, but it worked for me.
smbspool didn't help , the localhost thing still won't open... :roll:
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#32 Post by Torymon »

What printer are you trying to setup?
You may need additional "filters" like 'pnm2ppa'
Google "foomatic" and/or "generate .ppd files" and see if you can
get the proper drivers/filters/whatever..
I have a Hewlet-Packard Deskjet 820Cse. It's NOT in the puppy wizards
and Pakts CUPS script won't help by itself.
I HAVE to install "pnm2ppa" FIRST, then make sure I put the .ppd file in
my root directory, then run Pakt's CUPS script.
With "pnm2ppa" already in place, the script runs right through and
brings up a browser window with the administration page. From there,
I select 'Manage Printers' - 'Add Printer' and select the appropriate items.

Which reminds me... Does anyone know if you still HAVE to make the
name a one word entry?
I haven't tried it... I remember it used to be you HAD to make that
first one a "one-word" entry with NO spaces. I'm just curious.

(Thanks again Pakt!!! The script has really smoothed up!! Great Work!!)

But, Jason, let me know what printer you're trying to get working,
if you don't have Internet, I'll try to get the .ppd file and pnm2ppa
(if needed) and post them here in a follow-up.
PPD files are small and pnm2ppa tar file is only 187K.
Hope I can help, just let me know!

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#33 Post by mikeb »

Firstly the solution to the address problem is try
http://localhost:631/admin

never works for me without the admin.

Anyway cups is working fine here ,can print from windows 2000 also , samba is not needed to do this just network to <host>:631/printers/<name_of_printer> with IPP installed on the client..(added in network settings)

On the subject of size....the dotput is compiled to use ghostscript 9.15 but gsview is compiled to use 8.51 or 8.53 depending on the puppy version.
This results in two sets of ghostscipt files for each version for everything to run...ie duplication of around 5mb worth of files compressed.
Could a version of gsview compiled for 8.15 be included in the package perhaps...there doesn't seem to be a way to share one of the versions (went crosseyed trying)

Thanks for the effort to make this a straghtforward and 'worth-its-weight-in-gold' package,

regards

mike

update...looked at the cups site and it seems like the two ghostscript (esp 8.15 / gpl 8.57) versions are to be merged ..available soon...not sure how this affects the puppy cups implementation but the streamlining I mentioned will happen with this change.

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#34 Post by lowdog »

Finally Got my Printer to work in puppy with this version thank you!!!!!!


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#35 Post by PaulBx1 »

There is no uninstall feature in this dotpup.
Well, that makes it rather less palatable. I sure like to be able to back out packages, especially when loading something big like cups into something small like Puppy, where I don't know whether it is going to help me before I try it.

So, I guess I won't try it, even though I'm getting tired of taking a thumb drive upstairs to my wife's XP machine to print something.

I realize it was suggested to back up the pup_save first, in case it doesn't work. But there are other reasons to want to back out packages, for example when this revision is superceded by another, or because some day the standard Puppy print setup may be good enough.

Shouldn't developers be using the petget packager these days?

Sorry to be a nag about this...

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