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Mr.Goose


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PostPosted: Thu 01 Feb 2007, 23:23    Post subject: Moodle & Puppy - all LAMPPed up?  

@ WhoDo,

Perhaps we should chat by PM and give poor old Ecomoney back his thread!
Seems we may have some common ground here? What say you?

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Feb 2007, 23:47    Post subject: Feel Free  

Feel free! If only we had a networkable Llampp enabled puppy that could do dhcp internet connection sharing then the possibilities would be endless!!! Im sure someone will make something soon.......pleeeze!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Feb 2007, 23:55    Post subject:  

@ Ecomoney: Hi Robert, what you doing up at almost 4 AM? Late night or early morning?

The possibilities of Moodle + Puppy are indeed most interesting. And it was great to stumble across another Moodle enthusiast too. And thanks for popping by at DEOSS.

Tell me, is Puppy + LAMPP with fixed IP available now? And is it stable?

I'm going to hit the sack now. Way past my bed time.

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PostPosted: Fri 02 Feb 2007, 01:24    Post subject: phpinfo and requirements  

You can answer that question by looking at phpinfo output of the LAMP server and comparing it with the requirements of your Moodle version.

grafpup.com has two LAMP versions, the bigger one is the more advanced. Am using the smaller build, and I added DokeOS 1.6.2 to it (that DokeOs version is quite old by this time, but very reliable).

Just grab Puppy 1.08r1 or Puppy 1.09CE and pupget the grafpup LAMP package, preferably in a hard disk install. (I put the small DokeOs on CD so that teachers can create content while keeping mobile - such as home and school: isn't early morning your most productive time? Very Happy ).

Edit: Hmm, Whodo, you seem to be up to something - teachers will love you (more) if you release a MoodlePup! Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 02 Feb 2007, 10:18    Post subject: Easy  

Just got in from Work actually Mr Goose. Working with the Australians on a new phone system for puppy and the Cybercafe (gizmophone).


Setting up Xampp on puppy is easy, just follow the instructions here. Theres also a click and run installer here. Weve used it for local development of phpBB.

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PostPosted: Fri 02 Feb 2007, 14:48    Post subject: LAMPPed up Puppies  

Cool! I will have a crack this weekend! Thanks guys!

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 03:28    Post subject: Re: phpinfo and requirements  

raffy wrote:
Edit: Hmm, Whodo, you seem to be up to something - teachers will love you (more) if you release a MoodlePup! Smile

Ok, I have uploaded a Moodle dotpup and a MoodleThemes dotpup to MU's mirror. I'm sure when he has a moment he'll post a link or include the dotpups under PSI.

Caution: For the uninitiated, you will need to have Xampp running to access the Moodle environment via your web browser - http://localhost if running locally to trial.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 06:31    Post subject: Clarification  

@ Whodo....
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For the uninitiated, you will need to have Xampp running to access the Moodle environment via your web browser

By which you mean have XAMPP installed and running on the server, not the client, right? Unless the server is also the client, of course. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 07:49    Post subject:  

http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Internet/Moodle.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Internet/MoodleThemePack.pup

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 08:06    Post subject:  

MU wrote:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Internet/Moodle.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Internet/MoodleThemePack.pup

Mark


Thanks, Mark. Much appreciated.

Mr Goose wrote:
By which you mean have XAMPP installed and running on the server, not the client, right? Unless the server is also the client, of course


Yes, and yes. If you want to trial it locally, then access localhost via your web browser with Xampp running locally.

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 08:24    Post subject: Moodle  

What kind of courses can be run with Moodle? Would this be useful for any of the learning eactivities at the cybercafe? We had a mini-breakthrough last night with the internet connecton sharing so we may be having ourselves a network server after all.
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 08:43    Post subject: Re: Moodle  

ecomoney wrote:
What kind of courses can be run with Moodle? Would this be useful for any of the learning eactivities at the cybercafe? We had a mini-breakthrough last night with the internet connecton sharing so we may be having ourselves a network server after all.

Hmmmm...sorry, ecomoney, but there's that "piece of string" again! Very Happy

I suggest you pay a visit to moodle.org and have a play in the demo area. That will show you all of the miriad of resources at your disposal in Moodle and let you see how they work.

A word of warning: Moodle is NOT a substitute for thoughtful preparation of learning resources. It is an environment that is designed to shorten the "distance" between student and facilitator, but one cannot simply upload content and call it online learning - not that I'm suggesting you would.

It's just that there are many misconceptions about e-Learning that will confront the serious educator when tackling something like Moodle. It's great for so many things, but not everyone needs it. Here is another example of e-Learning that I apply with some of my students, no Moodle involved.

http://www.quia.com/pages/hww.html

OTOH, Moodle being SCORM compliant means that there is a world of resources available that can be repackaged for Moodle. Take this computer skills assessment for example:

http://pre2005.flexiblelearning.net.au/innovations/files/qld011/sacl/activities/learners_desk_selector.htm

That can be used within Moodle to assess computer literacy, as a form of knowledge gap analysis that includes some learning. It can be used as a "gateway" to more in-depth computer-based learning.

"Just because you can doesn't always mean you should!"

Hope that helps.
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 09:29    Post subject:  

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What kind of courses can be run with Moodle? Would this be useful for any of the learning activities at the cybercafe? We had a mini-breakthrough last night with the internet connection sharing so we may be having ourselves a network server after all.


We are using it for blended learning - this is where you run a course partly in the classroom and partly on line. I use it for ALL my courses now because...
    1. It effectively extends a relatively brief classroom experience into one of near-infinite length.
    2. Students who have taken the classroom part of the course at different times can communicate with one another.
    3. I can leave ll the teaching materials, course notes, presentations etc. on line.
    4. I can easily develop and extend my teaching materials subsequently if I wish.
    5. Being a totally disorganised sort of chap, I find having all my material ready on Moodle greatly simplifies my lesson preparation because I have all my materials laid out and ready to go.

Would it benefit your learning programmes at the Cybercafé, Robert? Short answer is yes!

My Moodle-ised courses are still at an early stage of development - but I am actually using them 'in anger'. My Students seem to like them. Any puppies who would like "enrollment keys" to check them out please PM me. Unfortunately the best courses on DEOSS Moodle are the ones I can't actually show you because they are run by other people. I seem to spend more time building theirs than my own! It's a case of cobblers kids having the worst shoes I guess! Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 09:54    Post subject: There are courses and there are good courses...  

I would just like to develop the very good points that WhoDo made, if I may...

There is indeed a world of difference between the relatively straightforward task of creating a Moodle course and the much more demanding and protracted process of creating a good Moodle course.

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 19:47    Post subject: MoodlePup as a folder on the server  

Whodo:
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I have uploaded a Moodle dotpup and a MoodleThemes dotpup

Thanks, Whodo, much appreciated!

So this must be a moodle folder that the admin can put in the webserver (like /some/location/htdocs) and then installed from there? So the Xampp server must have been installed (not necessarily running) when placing the files in htdocs. After the server is started, browse to http://localhost/moodle and the install process should start automatically.

(Have not tried this yet as I don't have a Xampp install - am too much a fan of what Nathan is doing at grafpup.com with his grafpup LAMP Smile )

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