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Posted: Sun 03 Dec 2006, 21:19
by Philh
I just tried Muppy005 with a Celeron300 and 512M ram.
Works fine for me.
Just two things I noticed

Mplayer wont start, I get this message

sh-3.00# mplayer /mnt/hda9/vids/Lisa.mpg
MPlayer 1.0pre8-3.3.4 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel Celeron A Mendocino/Pentium II Dixon (Family: 6, Model: 6, Stepping: 0)
CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 SSE

Playing /mnt/hda9/vids/Lisa.mpg.

MPlayer interrupted by signal 4 in module: demux_open
- MPlayer crashed by an 'Illegal Instruction'.
It usually happens when you run it on a CPU different than the one it was
compiled/optimized for.
Verify this!
- MPlayer crashed by bad usage of CPU/FPU/RAM.
Recompile MPlayer with --enable-debug and make a 'gdb' backtrace and
disassembly. Details in DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports_what.html#bugreports_crash.
- MPlayer crashed. This shouldn't happen.
It can be a bug in the MPlayer code _or_ in your drivers _or_ in your
gcc version. If you think it's MPlayer's fault, please read
DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html and follow the instructions there. We can't and
won't help unless you provide this information when reporting a possible bug.


Thought I would mention it, But Im quite happy to use Gxine which works well

Except it doesnt play .ra files.

Posted: Mon 04 Dec 2006, 00:51
by MU
there is an alternative mplayer-dotpup, but it does ot support xvmc-accelleration:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Multimedia/MPlayer-1.0.8/

And the brand-new Release candidate 1:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Multimedia/Mplayer-1.0rc1/

Maybe one of them works for you?
Does it crash with other files, too?
Mark

Posted: Mon 04 Dec 2006, 08:32
by Philh
Yes it crashes with any audio or video file.
I will try the other mplayers tonight.
Thanks

Posted: Mon 04 Dec 2006, 13:51
by MU
it seems I must have been dreaming concerning UTF-8.
I now can't reproduce to get it working in Rox1.
The last 2 days I had used another pup_save.3fs to fix the boot-scripts.

Now today back in my old environment, files created with leafpad display garbage as in my last screenshot :?

So stay with rox2 as default?
I did however replace the icon "waves" with "gimmicks" for 006, what opens a folder with things like setrox1 and setrox2.

Must find out now a comfortable way to set up mime-types using update-mime, so that I can set default-actions.

Mark

Posted: Mon 04 Dec 2006, 20:13
by Philh
Mplayer-1.0rc1 works well for me.
All sorts of file types including ra and wmv.

Cheers

Posted: Mon 04 Dec 2006, 20:16
by MU
fine. I did not try it yet myself, but if it works, I'll add it to 006.
Thanks, Mark

Posted: Mon 04 Dec 2006, 23:29
by Mic67
Off topic but, would you consider adding the application "Ipstate" which was made a dotpup by Guest Too. And a front end to iptables firewall called GTKiptables 0.4.2 to the next version of Muppy?

Thanks

Posted: Tue 05 Dec 2006, 00:26
by GuestToo
i think Puppy used to have GTKiptables ... i seem to remember that it did not work very well, and it was recommended that you just use it to get information from iptables, not to configure iptables .. i might be wrong

i seem to remember that it would not run at all if you had run a firewall script first

in any case, it is available as an unleashed package in PupGet

yes, it was included with Puppy 103 and 104 ... it will not run unless you disable your firewall first, or else it will crash with a seg fault ... see: http://www.puppyos.com/puppy-unleashed.htm

i don't really recommend it

Posted: Tue 05 Dec 2006, 18:31
by Mic67
Humm... yes I did get GTKiptables to work but when there was the segment fault. There must be some other simple front end that could be a substitue? Sometimes I have upwards of 112 rules, like for DOS, floods, bad flags, scanners, syn, etc. Havings something that is easy to work with would be nice. Some servers have over 250 rules...

Posted: Wed 06 Dec 2006, 09:15
by zikarus
Dear MU,

first of all: I like your Muppy a lot!

I encounter only one little (but quite annoying) problem (as with other Puppys too btw.): I cannot run the LiveCD or from USB because my USB driven Logitech keyboard and mouse are not recognized so that I cannot get on during the start-up process when it wants me to choose a language/keyboard layout...

Is there any way around this issue (besides searching for an old cable keyboard of course :-) or any modification that can easily be implemented?

I want Muppy mainly for my USB stick btw.

BR
zikarus

Posted: Wed 06 Dec 2006, 19:53
by pakt
zikarus wrote:I cannot run the LiveCD or from USB because my USB driven Logitech keyboard and mouse are not recognized so that I cannot get on during the start-up process when it wants me to choose a language/keyboard layout...

Is there any way around this issue (besides searching for an old cable keyboard of course :-) or any modification that can easily be implemented?
zikarus, I may be able to help you. Is there any way you can run the following command with your USB kbd and mouse plugged in and post the results:

# cat /proc/bus/usb/devices

That may give a clue why your keyboard and mouse are not detected.
Paul

Posted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 17:20
by zikarus
Dear Paul,

thanks for your help.

I have no other keyboard besides this cordless (argh, I forgot to mention this detail before, didn't I?) here in my office. I have therefore run your command under Backtrack, which seems to have no problem with my keyboard/mouse combo.

Here is the (shortened) output:

T: Bus=03 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 4
B: Alloc= 28/900 us ( 3%), #Int= 2, #Iso= 0
D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 2.06
S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.18-rc5 ohci_hcd
S: Product=OHCI Host Controller
S: SerialNumber=0000:00:02.1
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms

T: Bus=03 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=046d ProdID=c502 Rev=11.40
S: Manufacturer=Logitech
S: Product=USB Receiver
C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr= 50mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=usbhid
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=10ms
I: If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02 Driver=usbhid
E: Ad=82(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=10ms


T: Bus=02 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 4
B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 2.06
S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.18-rc5 ohci_hcd
S: Product=OHCI Host Controller
S: SerialNumber=0000:00:02.0
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms

... (more host controllers following)

Hope that helps.

BR
zikarus

Btw. I have the same issue with another type of cordless Logitech keyboard/mouse combo at home...

Muppy-006-212 release?

Posted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 18:45
by puppyfan12
Muppy-006-212.iso
44e1488789d7ab00e7436633af1bd6ee Muppy-006-212.iso

Is this the real thing or a hoax? I haven't been able to find any info about this being released yet.

Is there an official website or something for the muppy distro that lists release and version info?

Posted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 18:50
by zikarus
No, it does not seem to be a hoax but the real stuff :-)

No homepage as far as I know, but this forum/thread is the right address to stay tuned...

BR
zikarus

Posted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 19:56
by MU
I uploaded it while I was away to work.

version 006:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13510

If I get no reports about serious bugs, I'll delete the older versions next week :)

No, no webpage yet.
Maybe in early 2007.
I'm too busy with work/coding. And maybe women, lets see what happens ;)

Mark

Posted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 20:01
by pakt
zikarus wrote: T: Bus=03 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=046d ProdID=c502 Rev=11.40
S: Manufacturer=Logitech
S: Product=USB Receiver
C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr= 50mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=usbhid
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=10ms
I: If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02 Driver=usbhid
E: Ad=82(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=10ms
Yes, it is as I suspected. In 2.12 (on which Muppy is based) the script /etc/rc.d/rc.local0 checks for a USB mouse by examining all of the lines returned by "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices" for "mouse|trackball|netscroll|bt mini\-receiver". Your info contains "USB Receiver" which is NOT detected by the script.

I have suggested to Barry that the test be made on "Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02" which, as far as I have been able to determine, is a more reliable way to detect a USB mouse.

If you would like to test this, edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local0 and change line 191 from
[ ! "`cat /proc/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null | grep -i --extended-regexp "mouse|trackball|netscroll|bt mini\-receiver"`" = "" ] && USBMOUSEDEV="input/mice"
to
[ ! "`cat /proc/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null | grep -i "Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02"`" = "" ] && USBMOUSEDEV="input/mice"
Don't forget to reboot after modifying the file or Puppy won't save the change to pup_save.3fs. After rebooting, your mouse (and keyboard) should be detected.

Hope it works :)
Paul

Posted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 20:18
by zikarus
Hey that is good news!
Will try that out tomorrow at work.
Thx Paul

Posted: Fri 08 Dec 2006, 05:14
by jared
Mark,

Thanks!

I have installed muppy and I have not been happier or more productive with an OS since I left Mac OS 10.4.

http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p24/ ... esktop.jpg

Jared

Posted: Fri 08 Dec 2006, 13:41
by zikarus
pakt wrote: Yes, it is as I suspected. In 2.12 (on which Muppy is based) the script /etc/rc.d/rc.local0 checks for a USB mouse by examining all of the lines returned by "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices" for "mouse|trackball|netscroll|bt mini\-receiver". Your info contains "USB Receiver" which is NOT detected by the script.

I have suggested to Barry that the test be made on "Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02" which, as far as I have been able to determine, is a more reliable way to detect a USB mouse.

If you would like to test this, edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local0 and change line 191 from
[ ! "`cat /proc/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null | grep -i --extended-regexp "mouse|trackball|netscroll|bt mini\-receiver"`" = "" ] && USBMOUSEDEV="input/mice"
to
[ ! "`cat /proc/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null | grep -i "Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02"`" = "" ] && USBMOUSEDEV="input/mice"
Don't forget to reboot after modifying the file or Puppy won't save the change to pup_save.3fs. After rebooting, your mouse (and keyboard) should be detected.

Hope it works :)
Paul

It does Paul :-) - thx a lot!!!!

BR
zikarus

Posted: Fri 08 Dec 2006, 18:54
by pakt
zikarus, glad you got it working :)

Paul