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mfb

Joined: 22 Mar 2016
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Sep 2019, 09:23    Post subject:  Bootstarter  

Bootstarter needs a working optical (CD, DVD or Blu-ray) drive to:

(A) Boot entirely from the CD (a single Pup) or DVD (two or more Pups)
and/or
(B) Start booting many Pups from a CD, finalizing via e.g. HD or USB2.

Method(A), with the option “puppy pfix=nocopy” allows a very fast boot
and as the optical drive is mounted upon boot completion it cannot be
written to. Alternatively, copying all to RAM enables CD or DVD ejection.

Method (B), which may be unique, adds a simple (useful but crackable)
physical safety feature in that both devices are needed to boot an OS.

Using either method - Localized safety may (as usual) be enhanced by
temporarily disconnecting the Internet or by activating the ScreenLock.

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For example, for added security, speed and flexibility it's easy to put say,
10 Pup starters on an 8cm 185mb CD [fits in a shirt pocket], have masses
of spare space and complete loading a Menu-selected Pup from a chosen
FlashStick Drive or Partition and/or e.g. an internal Hard Drive or Partition.
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Download is 360M
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqpkeaukdfmzyt7/easyCDboot-polyPUPopts.tar?dl=1
IG of free space enables the fullest use (including the gz remaster) 750M is resquired.


INDEX to next 5 posts: (2) The easy preset test (3) DIY (make your own)
(4) Re: ToOpPy-2.3(mfb) (5) A few Tips ‘n’ Tricks (6) My Thanks & Credits
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mfb

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Sep 2019, 09:24    Post subject:  

(2) The easy preset test

Installs mfb’s take on ToOpPy2.3 (a Pup from Argolance)

Extract the “easyCDboot-polyPUPopts.tar contents, then delete the .tar file.
Click “build-iso>” and “collection.iso” appears together with a note
Click “drag2Burn” follow the new note then drag’n’drop the iso file then Burn.
Reboot from the newly made CD, DVD or Blu-ray disc (verify is not needed).
If desired, copy “tooppyx” from “archive” to the top-level of an HD or USB.

Delete “collection.iso” it takes 360M and is reproducible using “build-iso>”
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Sep 2019, 09:24    Post subject:  

(3) DIY (make your own)
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mfb

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Oct 2019, 03:11    Post subject:  

(4) Re: ToOpPy-2.3(mfb)
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mfb

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Oct 2019, 03:12    Post subject:  

(5) A few Tips ‘n’ Tricks

Download a Pup iso to try. Left click its icon and view its contents then copy the two basic files and all yellow SFS files then click the iso icon again to unmount it.

YaPI's second page has the option to find every iso wherever situated.

In ToOpPy - this is aka "1a_DIY_CD_bootstarter"

More tips may be added if there is any genuine interest from actual testers (rather than those who merely ask questions).

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mfb

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Oct 2019, 03:20    Post subject:  

(6) My Thanks & Credits

(1) Bootstarter's superstars are the smokey01 and CatDude team; because of their polished and superb publication MultiPup, mfb sought their expert advice on HOWTO help fix his deal-breaker technical problems and they sure did.

(2) ToOpPy v2.3 (an early 2.3 edition not now generally available) is all thanks to Argolance and those he thanks.
It has been chosen to demonstrate Bootstarter. It took mfb a few hours to get used to it, but it was a joy to explore and discover lots of innovative new features.

(3) YaPI's big stars are L18L and bigpup, and Argolance added a small, neat, presentation touch.

The shot below shows the opening screen of a revised version from mfb. It does 67% less with 20% less code (at hacked version 20) with the only real change being at lines 312 and 333 and making a Frugal installation the simplest, safest and sole choice. For a new iso installation - right click on the downloaded iso icon and choose YaPI (as is the case for users with a preference for the original version with the triple choice option).
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Also, huge thanks to nic007, rcrsn51 and step for their respective contributions of (with minor adjs) Remasterer, PeasyDisk and Find'n'Run.
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Tue 01 Oct 2019, 07:34    Post subject:  

If you are going to use a modified YaPI.

Would you please post your version on the YaPI topic.
I would like to see exactly what you did and review how it works.

New ideas are always welcome by me!

Just having it offer to do frugal installs is something I have been thinking about.

Note:
Your information window is not completely correct, unless you did more changes than you so far have stated.
YaPI does a frugal install to anything with all the Puppy files in a folder/directory.
To boot it, a boot loader must also be installed on the install location drive.
YaPI automatically starts Grub4dos Config to use it for the boot loader.
Never did put any boot entry info for a boot loader you may already be using.
For that you will have to use it's setup program.

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2019, 10:31    Post subject:  

Grub4dos doesn't like 64-bit machines.
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2019, 11:15    Post subject:  

tallboy wrote:
Grub4dos doesn't like 64-bit machines.

Evidence please.
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jafadmin

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2019, 16:55    Post subject:  

tallboy wrote:
Grub4dos doesn't like 64-bit machines.

lolwut Rolling Eyes

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Flash
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2019, 18:30    Post subject:  

A 360 MB booting program? You're kidding, right?
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mfb

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Oct 2019, 06:23    Post subject:  

Flash, try the DVD option and tell me if you can either write to it or rewrite to it whilst in use, but you can remaster whilst in use then reburn.

Alternatively, or additionally, you can easily make a preset savefile that will only save upon clicking the desktop icon (there is no save on reboot or shutdown).

The 360M is to try mfb's take on ToOpPy-2.3 (an highly innovative Pup from Argolance). It has three browsers PaleMoon has the latest version with the PrefBar and WoT add-ons - QtWeb is older and less comprehensive, but it loads faster (especially if booting entirely from an optical drive), else click on any blank area of the screen. ToOpPy also has two excellent language translators and many other goodies.

The ram2sfs screen shot shows 377 downloads of the 400 Byte script, yet (to date) not one person (not even the opening poster) reports having tested it. So, there is no confirmation of success or failure reported in that thread.
Here, instead, I include the excellent Remasterer from nic007 (right click on it and read lines 18 and 28, then a left click remasters (after desired change) the currently booted Pup).

The Dropbox screen shows the 360M version split into two (as yet unpublished) parts. The basic app is included in ToOpPy (where it occupies probably 1M). The unpublished version of ToOpPy fixes a savefile shutdown hitch (which a user may come across and report).
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