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Sage

Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Posts: 5547
Location: GB

PostPosted: Fri 06 Mar 2020, 16:26    Post subject:  

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Pi 4 Model B 2 GB Rev 1.1 w/o a protective case around it:
... videos in full screen mode on my Dell screen (1280*1024) will rise the temperature to 58°C (w/o cooling kit)

Interesting. Older cpu's with BIOS usually offer limiting functions beginning at ~70C. Those processors, although larger, were a lot less efficient than the RPi s and drew relative large currents relative to feature sizes, so don't think 58C is worrisome? Notwithstanding, I have passive HS on all models 2, zero and 3, with a tiny fan on the GPIO blowing across the whole board, ie not just the CPU/HS, and haven't noticed any adverse thermal effects under high loading. Of course, the v.4 may be different, esp. as currents are quite high. Always remember that must specify where and how T^oC is being measured. Thermocouple on surface?,underside?SW? internal diode via SW?
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FeodorF


Joined: 07 Jul 2010
Posts: 295
Location: Heidelberg, Germany

PostPosted: Fri 06 Mar 2020, 18:14    Post subject: Raspberry Pi 4 B, 2 GB
Subject description: To buy or not to buy
 

Prior ordering my pi 4 I watched some/many yt videos comparing different ARM boards. I was thinking about using one of them
as a desktop replacement. You guessed it by now a 'VIM3' would be the one to pick. But how many people would come up with further
software for this kind of hardware? I decided to pick a raspberry pi 4. For ram size I decided to use 2 GB as I'm not sure if the 4 GB
version will offer me any more speed on the system. Using it as a file server 4 GB will make sense but watching videos and reading
blogs 2 GB should be fine. Using my pi 4 for four days straight I will give it a 75+% as being able to replace my BIOS PC's.
System runs very well on micro SD as well as USB 3.0 flash disk (working partition).
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tony

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 337
Location: Montreal.ca

PostPosted: Sat 07 Mar 2020, 01:01    Post subject: MY Pi 4.  

Hi FeodorF,

I was surprised to find that I could work in usb3 by just putting a copy of the pup on a USB stick or SD card and booting up.

I also found out that disabled SD cards could be brought back to life by defragging them using GParted.

Failed getting Stellarium to work, but if puppy manager is downloading old versions, as was posted earlier, it might explain it.

My Pi4 is working well as a mainframe, but can't access Canada government PDF Citizen files due to Adobe not working with Linux.

Regards. Tony.
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don570


Joined: 10 Mar 2010
Posts: 5524
Location: Ontario

PostPosted: Sat 07 Mar 2020, 16:08    Post subject:  

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but can't access Canada government PDF Citizen files due to Adobe not working with Linux.

Did you try evince program.
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rockedge


Joined: 11 Apr 2012
Posts: 1874
Location: Connecticut, United States

PostPosted: Sat 07 Mar 2020, 16:22    Post subject:  

hello tony,

I have a copy of Adobe_Reader-9.5.5-i386.sfs for 32 bit that works well on Puppy Linux...perhaps it will run on Buster Raspup, of course if you're working with 32 bit. But I agree, evince should work well also for viewing pdf's

http://rockedge.org/kernels/data/SFS/Adobe_Reader-9.5.5-i386.sfs

http://rockedge.org/kernels

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tony

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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Location: Montreal.ca

PostPosted: Sat 07 Mar 2020, 16:51    Post subject: Adobe Needed?  

Hi and thanks for coming back.

The citizenship ca website looks for an updated Adobe program and if it does not find it , it wont let you in.

Evince is probably fine but you would probably need to spoof it to look like Adobe.

Another example. Skype worked well before it was taken over by Microsoft.
Afterwards, not so good.

Changing the subject a bit. How do we get accelerated graphics?

Regards. Tony.
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don570


Joined: 10 Mar 2010
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Location: Ontario

PostPosted: Sat 07 Mar 2020, 16:54    Post subject:  

The site probably wants you to write info into a pdf file.
I guess only official Adobe program can do that.
You can go to local library.
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FeodorF


Joined: 07 Jul 2010
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Location: Heidelberg, Germany

PostPosted: Mon 09 Mar 2020, 13:44    Post subject: Looking for 7-zip  

Sometimes ARM Linux images come with 7-zip compression. - "No, not ours."

As I was looking for '7-zip' forum member 'mikeslr' had a solution for my problem. You can look it up over there:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1052205#1052205
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don570


Joined: 10 Mar 2010
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Location: Ontario

PostPosted: Mon 09 Mar 2020, 19:30    Post subject:  

Cutting edge stuff...

UBPORTS has been able to run its linux based OS on a raspberry pi 3+
but it runs out of space if raspberry pi only has 1gb.

https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/raspberry-pi-266

..but a lot of issues
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USB and wireless mice and keyboards work but selection remains odd.
Sometimes the mouse cursor seems trapped in an invisible box - moving it around eventually lets you reach other parts of the screen.
Often the area selected does not match where the cursor shows and clicking will select a previously selected area.
Moving the mouse repeatedly horizontally (or in some cases vertically depending on what you are trying to select) before clicking often works. Selecting specific areas of text is hard to get right.
The Pi touch screen works however there seems to be a linked issue, it easily selects areas that are difficult with the mouse but then fails at tasks like accessing the top pull down menu.
Repeated use of Tab then Return on the keyboard usually works when all else fails but is not a good user experience. Scroll wheel also seems reversed.
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ggv94

Joined: 30 Mar 2020
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Apr 2020, 14:55    Post subject: Kernel panic error  

Hi, when raspup boots it shows me this screen and it won't move on:https://photos.app.goo.gl/DtvZycWc85t6SigBA
What can or should I do? I own a Raspberry Pi 3 A+
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Dud

Joined: 04 Jun 2011
Posts: 60

PostPosted: Mon 20 Apr 2020, 17:24    Post subject:
Subject description: Kernel panic
 

ggv94

Kernel panic is usually a result of a corrupted SD card or an incomplete installation.

If this installation was working ok and the error suddenly appeared on a later boot/reboot then most likely is a power cut - aka switching off the supply - before the OS had finished writing its housekeeping data at shutdown.

If it has never booted then (assuming your md5 sum checked out) something went wrong when writing your micro-sdcard.

I suggest you rewrite the card and make certain to sync (flush) before you dismount it.

Good luck,
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lp-dolittle

Joined: 25 Apr 2016
Posts: 156

PostPosted: Thu 11 Jun 2020, 07:49    Post subject: Raspberry Pi4 B 8GB
Subject description: running totally in RAM
 

Hi all,

what the new RaspiOS is expected to achieve on the new Raspberry Pi 4 B 8GB, running totally in RAM, seems to be no problem for Raspberry Pi Buster Raspup on the Raspberry Pi 4 B 4 GB!

I'm a bit surprised that Sage who obviously appreciates this modus, so far did not comment on this option. Might that be due to the fact that booting the Raspberry PI 4 B via CD/DVD from an external CD/DVD drive would require some additional effort?

I, admittedly, did not/cannot test this variant because I do not own a powered hub, but why not copy a remastered iso-file onto a micro-sd card or a flashstick which can be removed immediately after booting?

ARM Puppies - and not yet developed ARM EasyOS variants - certainly deserve additional attention!!

kind regards
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Brown Mouse

Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Posts: 559

PostPosted: Tue 16 Jun 2020, 07:34    Post subject:  

Has anyone managed to get 'CUPS' Printing working?

I've tried a few minor things including disabling firewall etc.but all I get from any browser is as shown in the attached screenshot.

TIA for any pointers.
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MattN

Joined: 16 Aug 2008
Posts: 14

PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun 2020, 00:02    Post subject: Raspberry Pi 3b+ tests using raspup 8.2.0
Subject description: some results and questions
 

I installed raspup on a 16GB sd card and found it was able to boot with no problems. The first thing I found was that trying to modify the over/under scan would allow me to make only positive adjustments. That wasn't too bad since the changes never showed up on the reboot. That was where the second problem occurred. When the program asks where to put the save file I used the second partition (I was under the assumption that everything being used on this puppy would be saved in the second partition -- WRONG). I was going to try to download the DEVX file but I got a meeage that there wasn't enough room on the sd card (I only had 14GB+ available).

I currently boot my system from a hard disk drive (using the sd to do the initial setup of the system using PINN to allow me to make the os selection). PINN is similar to the NOOBS program which is supplied by the Pi Foundation. The first question I have is why is there two partitions with the program residing in the FAT32 partition? I see that the FAT32 partition contains the normal stuff that NOOBS and PINN use to setup the system -- it also has the image file in it too. Could the image file be put into the second partition? If it could be it would make it MUCH easier to install it on my hard drive.

Thanks for hearing me out.

MattN
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aristos

Joined: 01 Jul 2020
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Wed 01 Jul 2020, 04:59    Post subject: raspup 8.2.0.wont boot on raspberry 3B+  

Last week I received a raspberry pi 3B+ revision 1.3.
Never managed to boot with raspup 8.2.0.
Just after boot options it gives me kernel panic, although many members of the forum report success.
Same thing happens either with dd(ing) the extracted img file to root device or coping raw files to already existing fat32 partition.(checked md5)
Strange enough raspup 8.1.3 and official distribution boots fine.
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