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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 11:20    Post subject:  

Simple GTK Radio, huh? I tried that.....and in mine, at least, it wouldn't run. Unless your version is different, somehow.....

I'll have to give it a try.

EDIT:- Ah, you're right. This is an earlier version. This is 0.1.5 - the version I have is 0.1.18. I'll see what happens when I boot into the 'Phoenix' a bit later on. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Aug 2019, 13:12    Post subject:  

One last addition for the 'chroot environment' (or 'jail', if you like!), since I'm in danger of getting too far away from what running a 'retro' Puppy is really all about.

For anyone using the 'chroot' environment, and who wants a decent screen activity capture tool, the attached .pet will allow you to use the jail's built-in SimpleScreenRecorder.....in this case, this is SSR 0.3.3. (Just making use of what's already there.)

Recommended format is not MP4, in case you're wondering. It's actually MKV (you may know it better as 'Matroska')- a format natively supported by the majority of Linux media players, and one of the official, supported file formats accepted by YouTube.....because it supports just about every codec going.

Here's a fairly nifty, easy-to-understand article that explains all about the different video 'containers' & 'codecs', and why some are more suitable for certain tasks than others:-

https://www.uscreen.tv/blog/the-quest-for-the-best-video-format-how-do-you-know-whats-best-for-you/


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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2019, 02:28    Post subject:  

Thanks for the new .pet Mike. Added Dogradio 006 comes with inbuilt yad later than the Puppy 4 one so if you wish to run this one - you will have to uninstall the Hotshots .pet and the Puppy 4 Yad. You will require Mplayer to run this - has conky in the .pet.

Other .pets

Makepet :

https://archive.org/download/pup4.311glibc2.19palemoon2.794sserev1/makepet-1.1.pet

Want to use xz Compression .pets in pup 4
Pet2pet: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97174

https://archive.org/download/pup4.311glibc2.19palemoon2.794sserev1/pet2pet-1.1_noarch.pet


You will XZutils:
https://archive.org/download/pup4.311glibc2.19palemoon2.794sserev1/xz-4.999.9beta-i486.pet


Keyboard Indicator: fbxkb
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=39298
pet: https://archive.org/download/pup4.311glibc2.19palemoon2.794sserev1/fbxkb-0.4-i486.pet

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2019, 04:55    Post subject:  

This is a fun thread. I've been enjoying reading it this evening. Puppy 4.31 was my last real favourite Pup - it still evokes nostalgic memories in my mind so great to hear it being experimented with like this. Interesting stuff.

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2019, 05:38    Post subject:  

wiak wrote:
This is a fun thread. I've been enjoying reading it this evening. Puppy 4.31 was my last real favourite Pup - it still evokes nostalgic memories in my mind so great to hear it being experimented with like this. Interesting stuff.

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Thanks Wiak I enjoy playing with it - it reminds me of the days when Pups weren't so Automated, and to see what stuff can run with it. To be honest I spend much more time booting up in to this Pup than the newer ones.

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2019, 06:04    Post subject:  

Mornin', Darren.

Re; make-pet 1.1. Just thought I'd let you know, Trio's 'Pet-Maker' 2.3:-

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40457

.....also works beautifully in the 'Phoenix'. I've been using it for years; it's my package tool of choice for .pet packages, and although it will also create SFS packages, I prefer doing those via 'mksquashfs' in the terminal (don't ask me why!)

What can I say? I like my GUIs.... A hangover from too many years with Windoze, methinks. Trio made a lovely job of this one, though, and it's particularly easy to use. It's another of those apps that just seems to 'work', no matter what Puppy you throw it at. I'm not surprised, though, because once again it's simply a bunch of scripts.....no binaries involved.

Comes with Mike's 'seal of approval'!

wiak wrote:
This is a fun thread. I've been enjoying reading it this evening. Puppy 4.31 was my last real favourite Pup - it still evokes nostalgic memories in my mind so great to hear it being experimented with like this. Interesting stuff.


Couldn't agree more..... Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2019, 06:44    Post subject:  

One thing I've found odd in the past few years, is the idea that seemed to be pushed forward that remasters were somehow inferior to a 'pristine' build. It seems to me that remasters are every bit as valid a technical means of producing a 'new' or different distro. A remaster can be scripted also, so the steps involved can be made perfectly reproducible. The fact is, most automated builds tend to have bugs and flaws that need ironed out, so remasters are at least as important a part of any distro build anyway.

Also, as you are showing with one of the best ever Pups produced, remastering can rejuvenate what some might have thought was obsolete. Plenty of old RAM-challenged hardware lying about gathering dust, when work such as described in this thread can make them often just as useful as the shiny new expensive machine in the high street shop.

chroot techniques you describe, are a great approach for getting unexpectedly good results, since they can, within limitations, provide the system with modern apps and required libs it wouldn't otherwise have by default, whilst still using an old kernel necessary for some old boxes to still work. Not everything can work with the old kernel of course, but, as you say, it is sometimes easy to upgrade kernel/modules to get round such issues.

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Aug 2019, 08:38    Post subject:  

@ wiak:-

I'm not going to say too much here - I'll let Darren speak for himself - except to say that I'm glad watchdog 'introduced' me to the whole business of the chroot environment. I've heard of them for a long time, but this is the first time I've seriously experimented with one, or really understood what it does.

I'd never want to use one too much with an old Pup (you end up losing sight of the whole point of doing so), but it's a neat way of adding an up-to-date browser.....which is always the one real weak point with an elderly OS.

And, as with so much other stuff I use, by running it 'remotely' a single chroot environment can be shared between multiple OSes. Puppy being so small, of course, you don't really need to spend a long time stripping out unnecessary stuff.....you simply use the entire Pup for the 'jail', as is.


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PostPosted: Fri 30 Aug 2019, 04:35    Post subject:  

More .pets today - another screenshot app called shutterbug which I think might have been in Ttuuxxx's Firehydrant Pups (3 series) which includes record movie. The one dependency is fox... Left click on the bug....
https://archive.org/download/pup4.311glibc2.19palemoon2.794sserev1/fox-1.6.37-i486.pet
https://archive.org/download/pup4.311glibc2.19palemoon2.794sserev1/shutterbug-3.0.0.pet

Puppian's will be familliar with My-Cloud-apps by Sszindian

https://archive.org/download/pup4.311glibc2.19palemoon2.794sserev1/My-Cloud-Apps.pet

Fotoxx

https://archive.org/download/pup4.311glibc2.19palemoon2.794sserev1/fotoxx-12.01.2-i686-1jsc.pet

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Aug 2019, 16:45    Post subject: Streamtuner
Subject description: Radio Streamer / GStreamer How to
 

Hi Puppians,

This mornings offering is a .pet from Aragon Streamtuner found it worked nicely with deadbeef by changing default media player script as follows: deadbeef %q for
listen to .m3u and streaming option. Listening to xiph options - different stations - Nice!

Thread: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=33571
.pet: https://archive.org/download/pup4.311glibc2.19palemoon2.794sserev1/streamtuner-0.99.99-2.pet
Wiki: http://wikka.puppylinux.com/Streamtuner

Documentation for installing Gstreamer for Puppy 4 needed improving so here it is in wiki
http://wikka.puppylinux.com/gstreamer

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PostPosted: Sat 31 Aug 2019, 01:27    Post subject: Xvidcap - Mike Walsh Package  

Hi Mike,

Tried your package of Xvidcap from 2018 and it runs.
Thread: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=113765

Download: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1vs80X33lqVyOtFcc65wQsifwbv_GmVEP

Uploaded at archive.org too.

https://archive.org/download/pup4.311glibc2.19palemoon2.794sserev1/xvidcap-1.1.7-i686.pet Nice work.

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PostPosted: Sat 31 Aug 2019, 20:14    Post subject:  

Hi Darry and Mike : )

downloading now pup-431-scsi-intel_modems.iso

i need install security pets please

i have bash-4.3.30-1.pet for Carolina 1.2 by Geoffrey

anothers security pets?

i want install dependencies for palemoon firefox chromium and later mksquash palemoon.sfs firefox.sfs chromium.sfs

and of course remaster.

by the way, wary 5.5 vs puppy 431 what do you prefer? for

toshiba pentium 3 512 mb ram

thank you so much darry and mike.
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Sep 2019, 04:19    Post subject:  

AndresC2 wrote:
Hi Darry and Mike : )

downloading now pup-431-scsi-intel_modems.iso

i need install security pets please

i have bash-4.3.30-1.pet for Carolina 1.2 by Geoffrey

anothers security pets?

i want install dependencies for palemoon firefox chromium and later mksquash palemoon.sfs firefox.sfs chromium.sfs

and of course remaster.

by the way, wary 5.5 vs puppy 431 what do you prefer? for

toshiba pentium 3 512 mb ram

thank you so much darry and mike.



Hi Andres,

Lets Break your question down - the only "security" related updates for I know of for 4.31 over recent years was when Watchdog issued a bash update which was needed at the time and one you must be careful of because doing it wrong from memory breaks wget which I think affects PPM.

Here it is https://sourceforge.net/projects/anitaos/files/Anitaos/bash-3.0.22-i486.pet/download

The updates I did here were allow 4.31 to run later software.

For your question which do I prefer between 4.31 and Wary 5.5 for a Pentium 3 - I personally prefer 4.31 but that to be honest is a personal opinion and on that machine probably 4.31 would have the edge.

To run those sfs - you need to install sfsload.

https://archive.org/download/pup4.311glibc2.19palemoon2.794sserev1/sfs_load-2.1.pet

This is used to load the SFS you require.......Andres to understand how the sfs's (Browsers you require) start reading from this posting to understand what you have to do to load them.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1035264#1035264

If you wish to install updates such as the glibc 2.19 update they are available here: https://archive.org/download/pup4.311glibc2.19palemoon2.794sserev1

The initial ones are glib-2.0_schemas.pet, glib-2.22.2-i486.pet, glibc-2.19-i486-dpup487.pet, dbus-1.2.4.2permissive-1-w5.pet, dbus-glib-0.82-w5.pet,ffmpeg-20100408-0.9.pet, fontconfig-2.8.0-w5c.pet, ca-certificates-2019-03-08.pet, puppy412-flash-fullscreen-fix.pet, gtk-2.18.3-p4.pet, gtkdialog4-246-w5.pet

Download and copy these to /usr/lib - libssl.so.1, libstdc.so, libstdc.so.5, libstdc.so.5.0.6, libstdc.so.5.0.7, libstdc.so.6, libstdc.so.6.0.25, libstdc.so.6.0.9, libcrypto.so.1

Any others you require can be downloaded here: https://archive.org/download/pup4.311glibc2.19palemoon2.794sserev1

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Sep 2019, 13:26    Post subject:  

@ Darren:-

Glad to hear XVidCap 1.1.7 is working for you. I'm having to go with the previous release, 1.1.6, 'cos all 1.1.7 will do for me is throw segfaults....

*shrug*.....grrrr.......

(Which is bloody annoying, 'cos it works fine in every other Pup in the kennels. Unless there were some major changes from the 4-series Pups to the 5-series?)


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PostPosted: Sun 01 Sep 2019, 21:46    Post subject:  

Hi Darren

thank you so much!

you are right puppy-431 work fine in this toshiba pentium 3

but in the same stick usb pendrive wary 5.5 show this:

puppy_wary_5.1.2.sfs not found. Dropping out to initial-ramdisk console

i try everything

pdev1=sdb1 The boot partition.

psubdir=puppies/wary Path in which Puppy is installed.

pmedia=usbflash Type of media booting from. Choose one of these:
usbflash usbhd usbcd ataflash atahd atacd atazip scsihd scsicd cd

pupsfs=sdb1:/puppies/wary/puppy_wary_5.5.sfs HERE found sfs and later kernel panic.

puppy precise 5.7.1 boot fine in this stick.

see you and thanks
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