No sound from Bionic Pup 32 on Toshiba

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No sound from Bionic Pup 32 on Toshiba

#1 Post by geo_c »

Does anybody know what to make of this, I'm not getting sound so I checked sysInfo. Looks like an IRQ conflict. Can I fix it?

!!ALSA/HDA dmesg
!!--------------

Error: Driver 'pcspkr' is already registered, aborting...
snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC0D0: CX20551 (Waikiki): BIOS auto-probing.
snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC0D0: autoconfig for CX20551 (Waikiki): line_outs=2 (0x13/0x1d/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:speaker
snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC0D0: speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC0D0: hp_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC0D0: mono: mono_out=0x0
snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC0D0: dig-out=0x18/0x0
snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC0D0: inputs:
snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC0D0: Mic=0x15
snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC0D0: Internal Mic=0x17
snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC0D0: Line=0x14
snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC0D0: CD=0x16
snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC0D0: Enable sync_write for stable communication
input: HDA Intel Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input9
input: HDA Intel Line as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input10
iwl3945 0000:03:00.0 wlp3s0: renamed from wlan0
--
wlp3s0: associated
snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.
gsettings-data-[7681]: segfault at 24 ip b76f149f sp bfff5b70 error 4 in libgconf-2.so.4.1.5[b76d5000+33000]

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#2 Post by bigpup »

Is this Bionicpup32 8.0?
If yes.
I would be using the latest version.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/zestyp ... o/download

ALSA Sound Wizard>Multiple Cards
Is the correct sound card hardware selected?
Usually you want the one that has anolog in the name.
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#3 Post by geo_c »

thanks bigpup.
the distrospecs say:

BionicPup32 19.03
Window Manager: JWM v2.3.7
Desktop Start: xwin jwm
I downloaded it a few days ago. Runs very well except for the soundcard. There are not multiple soundcards, just analog and digital outs on the card itself. Hw0 and Hw1, and I have the analog one selected.

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#4 Post by geo_c »

bigpup, looking at the link, there is version 19.04 and version 8.0. Which is more recent? and can I just copy the files from the iso file into home? I'd like to give 8 a whirl and see if it fixes the problem, but still my use savefile, which is a frugal directory on sda1.

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#5 Post by bigpup »

The one I posted is suppose to be the latest version.
Naming got a little messed up , because the name was changed to Bionicpup32 8.0 and it started out as UpPupBB 18.04.
That +9 in the iso name, indicates it is the one with the latest update.
peebee changes that +number when he updates the iso.

I would go by what is posted in the Bionicpup32 8.0 topic.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=113244
can I just copy the files from the iso file into home?
That is one way to do it.
Just use all the files in the new iso to replace the older ones.
If you were using Bionicpup32 8.0, the old save should work with the newer iso files.

Sound issue.
Have you checked the mixer settings, for anything not correctly set, that has anything to do with speakers?
Tray speaker icon right click menu.
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#6 Post by geo_c »

Thanks bigpup.

I copied the files and it booted rather nicely. No sound, but I also booted a copy of Studio1337 v3, no sound either so I'm guessing ALSA doesn't like this sound card or something.

This copy of upup is a hard drive linux partion frugal directory, and it's pretty much instantaneous response. Very fun work computer. Sound would make it that much better.

And yes, I seem to have all the boxes ticked and the correct sound card chosen, but that error in the sys info seems to mean that there is some sort of communication error:

Error: Driver 'pcspkr' is already registered, aborting...
and:
snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.
gsettings-data-[7681]: segfault at 24 ip b76f149f sp bfff5b70 error 4 in libgconf-2.so.4.1.5[b76d5000+33000]

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#7 Post by bigpup »

Menu>System>Pup-Sysinfo>Devices>Audio

This gives a lot of info, but I do not need to see all of it.

Post the info from the beginning to the !!Loaded sound module options

This should show what driver and kernel module is trying to be used and what the hardware is.
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#8 Post by bigpup »

Bionic Pup 32 on Toshiba
What model is the computer?
Laptop or desktop?
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#9 Post by perdido »

This is related to
snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.

Instructions to manually configure the driver during boot are in the first post.
Some additional info in 2nd

https://docs.slackware.com/howtos:hardw ... -hda-intel

https://unix.stackexchange.com/question ... -hda-intel

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Thanks Everyone!

#10 Post by geo_c »

====> Audio Devices <====

Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 02)
+ Kernel Driver: snd_hda_intel
+ Memory Used: 18.79 KB
+ Path: /lib/modules/4.9.163-lxpup-32-pae/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
+ Description: Intel HDA driver

!!################################
!!ALSA Information Script v 0.4.64
!!################################

!!Script ran on: Fri Aug 2 13:02:48 UTC 2019


!!Linux Distribution
!!------------------

Linux 4.9.163-lxpup-32-pae [i686 arch] NAME=Puppy ID=puppy_upupbb CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:puppy:puppy_linux:19.03" HOME_URL="http://puppylinux.com/" SUPPORT_URL="http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php" BUG_REPORT_URL="https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE"


!!DMI Information
!!---------------

Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
Product Name: Satellite P105
Product Version: PSPA0U-06W01M
Firmware Version: V2.10


!!Kernel Information
!!------------------

Kernel release: 4.9.163-lxpup-32-pae
Operating System: GNU/Linux
Architecture: i686
Processor: i686
SMP Enabled: Yes


!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: k4.9.163-lxpup-32-pae
Library version:
Utilities version: 1.1.3


!!Loaded ALSA modules
!!-------------------

snd_hda_intel


!!Sound Servers on this system
!!----------------------------

No sound servers found.


!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
!!-----------------------------

0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
HDA Intel at 0xb0000000 irq 28


!!PCI Soundcards installed in the system
!!--------------------------------------

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)


!!Advanced information - PCI Vendor/Device/Subsystem ID's
!!-------------------------------------------------------

00:1b.0 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 02)
Subsystem: 1179:ff31


!!Modprobe options (Sound related)
!!--------------------------------

snd_pcsp: index=-2
snd_usb_audio: index=-2
snd_atiixp_modem: index=-2
snd_intel8x0m: index=-2
snd_via82xx_modem: index=-2
snd_atiixp_modem: index=-2
snd_intel8x0m: index=-2
snd_via82xx_modem: index=-2
snd_usb_audio: index=-2
snd_usb_caiaq: index=-2
snd_usb_ua101: index=-2
snd_usb_us122l: index=-2
snd_usb_usx2y: index=-2
snd_cmipci: mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388
snd_pcsp: index=-2
snd_usb_audio: index=-2


!!Loaded sound module options

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thank perdido

#11 Post by geo_c »

Thanks Perdido,
I'll take a look at those links.

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IRQ

#12 Post by geo_c »

Makes sense that it's IRQ, I'll have to drink a few more cups of coffee before I try messing with that config file though. I'm not a coder.

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bdl_pos_adj

#13 Post by geo_c »

But where do I find that line?

SOLVED that question. Added a file to modprob.d that's changing the value, but I've jacked it up to 6 and I'm still getting the same error.
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#14 Post by geo_c »

In other words I'm not sure where to put it. Does this go in the file created in: etc/modprobe.d, as suggested in the stack exchange site?

again, SOLVED that question. Added a file to modprob.d that's changing the value, but I've jacked it up to 6 and I'm still getting the same error.

I'll keep increasing it and see what happens.
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SOLVED IRQ MESSAGE

#15 Post by geo_c »

OKAY,
so I jacked the value to 8, and I don't have an IRQ workaround message in sysinfo anymore,

but I'm still getting no sound,

So the next question, is there supposed to be a tick box to check the PCM channel in the Retrovol and/or ALSA mixer. If there is, there isn't one available. Maybe I should try a CD in the drive.

WHICH I DID, and still nothing.

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#16 Post by bigpup »

In the recent Puppy versions. The PCM in Retrovol is set to on and does not have a way to turn it off.
It is always needed, so no need to be able to turn it off.

You should be able to adjust PCM in Retrovol mixer.
So make sure it is turned up.

So, I do not think that is your problem unless the mixer PCM slider is turned down.
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#17 Post by geo_c »

Thanks bigpup.

Definitely not the problem.I was hopeful about the IRQ thing, but it seems like that is solved, and so now I'm at a loss.

I am also running my pups on another machine which is a Dell with only one CPU, it's not even dual core. That machine miraculously runs Win10, but painfully slow. Still the pups run well enough, though I wouldn't say snappy. I have sound from upup on that machine. Those are frugals on a windows partition, whereas the Toshiba are frugals on a linux partition, and that's totally the way to go. Blazing fast and versatile!

It's difficult to ever want to run windows. Though I still have difficulty with certain applications in puppy and studio1337, in particular Musescore, which is necessary to my line of work.

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#18 Post by bigpup »

ALSA Sound Wizard>Multiple Cards
There are not multiple soundcards, just analog and digital outs on the card itself. Hw0 and Hw1, and I have the analog one selected.
Selecting analog and using it is usually the fix.

Here is something you can try.

Navigate in Rox file manager to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file.
Left click on alsa-base.conf to open in a text editor.
add this at the end of the file. Do not modify anything else in this file!

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options snd-hda-intel model=generic
Save change.
Reboot to get changes into the save and to get the new change used.

If no help.
Can try using one of these. Only use one at a time replacing, what did not work.

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options snd-hda-intel model=auto

options snd-hda-intel model=auto, enable_msi=1

options snd-hda-intel model=3stack
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#19 Post by geo_c »

Thanks again. No-go with those lines though. The hardware all shows up in the mixers, both retrovol, and ALSA, just no sound.

There is a curious thing in the retrovol config that looks like this:
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retrovol-config.png
I mean the soundcard &quot;Pro Mask&quot; controls, when chosen and applied they always end up back on the unused controls side of the window. Maybe they are normal, but I don't know what they are.
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#20 Post by bigpup »

That hardware setup part of Retrovol Configure has bugs and never has really worked that well.
The developer of the Retrovol program is no longer around and no one has really tried to fix the minor bugs.
Retrovol usually just works and selects what is needed.

I know you said you are using the analog device when you look in menu>Setup>ALSA Sound Wizard>Multiple Cards

Can you post an image of what it shows..

Example of mine. It uses the same driver and works:
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