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Microsoft's New Operating System Based On Linux.
http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/micr ... d-on-linux
We are Linux!
Resistance is futile!
You will be assimilated!

Microsoft announced Azure Sphere OS, its first operating system based on Linux to improve the security of the Internet of Things. It is the first time in its 43 years of existence that Microsoft announces something similar, the first time in its history that a custom Linux kernel will be distributed.

Why not use Windows?

1. operating system simply remains too large to be used in this project.
2. It is the versatility of Linux that makes it an ideal solution for Azure Sphere.
3. Nor does it make sense to develop something from scratch, when Linux makes all the sense in the world, and the Microsoft of 2018 does not think like the Microsoft of 2012, we do not have Ballmer labeling Linux as "cancer", but saying that he loves it.

Let's not get euphoric about this.
MS has not changed its business model, certainly not.
I can see it at work and when I look at win10 at home.
Linux still can get screwed.

"Microsoft applying what they have learned from security working in Windows to a Linux kernel implementation"

Really looking forward to that
Ms has taken security to a level where it is a dangerous thing. A little humility would be in place.

This is bad news. More people are going to use linux based stuff now which will attract more hackers. Linux's relatively small user base has been a turn-off for potential hackers.

I agree with nic007 on this matter.

This is tech moving in the wrong direction. The last thing I want to see is M$ influencing Unix/Linux. It should go the other way around ..

jafadmin wrote:This is tech moving in the wrong direction. The last thing I want to see is M$ influencing Unix/Linux. It should go the other way around ..

Maybe it's time to fork the kernel!

nic007 wrote:This is bad news. More people are going to use linux based stuff now which will attract more hackers. Linux's relatively small user base has been a turn-off for potential hackers.

So, what version of Windows is on your cell phone?

M$ = bastards

OpenBSD Puppy anyone?

There here
https://www.zdnet.com/article/ms-linux- ... top-linux/

For all you Chromium Browser lovers.

More recently Microsoft did something even more unthinkable to those who still believe Microsoft is stuck in the 90s. The company dumped Edge, its Windows 10 web browser, codebase for major-rival's Goolge open-source Chromium browser code.

bigpup wrote:There here
https://www.zdnet.com/article/ms-linux- ... top-linux/

For all you Chromium Browser lovers.

More recently Microsoft did something even more unthinkable to those who still believe Microsoft is stuck in the 90s. The company dumped Edge, its Windows 10 web browser, codebase for major-rival's Goolge open-source Chromium browser code.

So what it sounds like is that they want to sell cloud based office applications. If they do this they they depend much less on the desktop market.

ozsouth wrote:OpenBSD Puppy anyone?

Is that possible ?
Would be great.
Are you up to something?

a) The author's grasp of English ain't exactly the best.
b) For a writer on a Linux website, he seems remarkably pro-Windows.

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I, too, have to agree with Nic. Times, they are a-changing.....and things aren't exactly heading in a direction that I would wish to see.

@ bigpup:- I may have used Chrome since day one. But any browser that MyCrudSoft have had their sticky paws on is automatically suspect. I wouldn't touch it with a barge-pole.....

We shall see what transpires.


Mike.

bigpup wrote:There here
https://www.zdnet.com/article/ms-linux- ... top-linux/

[lobster faints]

I have not used Windows since Windows XP (which worked and I liked). I slowly migrated to dual booting and eventually went completely penguin. Puppy in particular.

However I do keep an eye on all sorts of wonders. Northchip from IBM, AI dedicated processors, Autonomic computing and even ...
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/researc ... mputation/

... anyway back to the present

- IBM loves Linux
- 'Not Evil' Google loved Linux so much they rebranded it Android
- Microsoft now loves Tux

MS Puppy is possible?

[lobster faints x2]

jafadmin wrote:This is tech moving in the wrong direction. The last thing I want to see is M$ influencing Unix/Linux. It should go the other way around ..

From the article "quote: Leveraging security experience in Microsoft ..." and "quote: It combines security innovations pioneered in Windows ...". You gotta be kidding me. Do people go to MS when they need advice on security? Seriously?

But the horse has left the barn long time ago, right? MS is a esteemed member of Linux Foundation since 2016 ...

". You gotta be kidding me. Do people go to MS when they need advice on security? Seriously?

Better than Linux which tends to rely on obscurity OR "!I'm alright Jack, stuff the rest of you".

Burn_IT wrote:Better than Linux which tends to rely on obscurity OR "!I'm alright Jack, stuff the rest of you".

Ah! Triggered!

Burn_IT wrote:

". You gotta be kidding me. Do people go to MS when they need advice on security? Seriously?

Better than Linux which tends to rely on obscurity OR "!I'm alright Jack, stuff the rest of you".

Linux has security features like polocykit, selinux, sandboxes and containers. If you want really robust Linux securely then you can use QubesOs

I think the biggest problem with Microsoft's security model is that it relies on a centralized registry. It just takes one bad ap with registry access to disable your anti-virus protection!

Linux kernel is now being put in Windows 10.
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/05/ubu ... em-linux-2

I wonder if the name Lindows will be reborn?

If you search around you can actually find Microsoft produced programs coded for Linux.
Not a lot, but they seem to be getting into Linux more and more.
Example:
Visual Studio Code
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Studio_Code