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s243a

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2019, 15:27    Post subject:  

nubc wrote:
How about I unistall PM 25/27 with PPM in my current Tahrpup 605 system, then delete the PM directory in /opt, then install PM 28.4.1 as you recommend above. This PM directory contains at least three files with exclamation marks on them.


I'm guessing these are either broken symbolic links or you need to clean your file system using the e2fsck. As a warning if the pysical media is damaged you can lose data. I recomend you prepare a backup system just in case (e.g. a fresh install of tahrpup onto a cd, usb or hard drive).
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2019, 16:02    Post subject:  

I just installed PM 28.4.1 per Salty's instructions, after removing the PM 27 package, since it wasn't uninstalling, and deleting the old directory in /opt. Now I can play the Louise di Tullio track. But now I remember why I don't like PM. I can't use my virtual keyboard, because it won't type an URL. You know, like some passwords cannot be entered with the virtual keyboard. That's what I thought, but after some delay, it may have worked in this newer version. Yep, there's a delay, but the virtual keyboard eventually works in the address field, which was a problem before.

Now, what and where is the download extension? Oh, looks like I already have ABL and the PM downloader installed. The YT player does not respond to controls as expected. The Pause/Play toggle button is inoperable in PM. Normally, if I click the screen of the player it will pause and play. In PaleMoon, the spacebar pauses/plays the video.

Wow, that is a clutsy downloader. Gonna take me a day to wade through it.

Ha, out of the blue, that video now plays in Firefox Quantum 66.0.3. Problem solved, fingers crossed. Obviously, I have gremlins in my computer.
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2019, 22:33    Post subject:  

For the first time ever, between the Youtube videos I was watching in PM 28.3.0, I got a pop-up window asking me what I thought about the Youtube performance. I chose the middle answer: As expected! Laughing
But it may indicate that some of the complaints have been heard, maybe there is an upgrade coming!

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s243a

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Apr 2019, 00:57    Post subject:  

a_salty_dogg wrote:
@ nubc

Boot up a "virgin" copy of Precise 5.71. You can do this either by booting from a CD in RAM mode or, if you haven't got a CD drive, by simply opening up your "menu.lst" file in geany & appending
Code:
pfix=ram
to the second line (the one beginning with "kernel /Precise_5.71/vmlinuz...") of your "Precise 5.71" entry, then save, close, unmount the partition if necessary, and reboot using that entry.

Then download the latest Palemoon 32bit release, 28.4.1, from here (you will need a recent browser!), and extract all the contents of the downloaded tar.bz2 to "/opt".
If you also want to set up a menu entry, follow the instructions here.

Next open up your newly installed Palemoon and type "about:config" (note and include the colon, though without the quotation marks!) in the browser bar, accept the "I'll be careful" warning, and search for the string named
Code:
media.libavcodec.allow-obsolete;false
Double click on that line to change the "false" to "true".

Then close the tab and the browser.

Now restart Palemoon and see if your "Allegro (moderato)" video plays,

Note you could have equally performed all the above processes in a pristine install of Tahr 6.05 if you wished.


EDIT - @OscarTalks & nic007, sorry for belatedly butting in here; took me a fair while to set up and test all that in both Precise and Tahr, then type it all out! You both answered him while I was busy "fettling" it Embarassed


I gave that a try on the TazPup64 that I'm working on and it works. I wonder what the downsides of doing this are vs installing a newer version of libavcodec(-extra?). Note that if I do your suggested tweek the browser still dosen't support H.264. However, a video that I couldn't previous play now plays. I wonder if it is the case that if you select this option than youtube knows not to send you H.264 type videos.
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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Apr 2019, 05:48    Post subject:  

I think s243a has hit the nail on the head. In my estimation, with all the installations/uninstallations you've been doing, I would hazard a guess that you've got broken sym-links all over the place.

Personally, I've always found that it's no good just blindly relying on the PPM to put things back exactly as they were before. No package manager, anywhere in the entire Linux eco-system, is that good. Sometimes, you simply have to do a manual 'follow-up', and check that things are how you want them; if necessary, on occasion you'll need to re-make symlinks correctly.

(Believe me. Windows makes as many, if not more cock-ups than Linux does.....but MyCrudSoft are very good at hiding this kind of thing away out of sight, so you don't see it.)

In all honesty, it wouldn't hurt to start from scratch, and set up a new install of Tahrpup. But, before you do, write down somewhere exactly what it is you need installed in the way of packages, drawing on your own experiences over time; that way, you'll get everything cleanly installed from the word go.

(It might be worth using Tahr 606 instead of 605; not only was the UEFI-boot capability added, but there were quite a number of changes incorporated from the Woof-CE build-system at that time. The old Tahrpup PPM 'out of space' problem was fixed, for one thing.)

Just my two-penn'orth, FWIW.


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Apr 2019, 12:19    Post subject:  

a_salty_dogg wrote:
@ nubc

Boot up a "virgin" copy of Precise 5.71. You can do this either by booting from a CD in RAM mode or, if you haven't got a CD drive, by simply opening up your "menu.lst" file in geany & appending
Code:
pfix=ram
to the second line (the one beginning with "kernel /Precise_5.71/vmlinuz...") of your "Precise 5.71" entry, then save, close, unmount the partition if necessary, and reboot using that entry.

Then download the latest Palemoon 32bit release, 28.4.1, from here (you will need a recent browser!), and extract all the contents of the downloaded tar.bz2 to "/opt".
If you also want to set up a menu entry, follow the instructions here.

Next open up your newly installed Palemoon and type "about:config" (note and include the colon, though without the quotation marks!) in the browser bar, accept the "I'll be careful" warning, and search for the string named
Code:
media.libavcodec.allow-obsolete;false
Double click on that line to change the "false" to "true".

Then close the tab and the browser.

Now restart Palemoon and see if your "Allegro (moderato)" video plays,

Note you could have equally performed all the above processes in a pristine install of Tahr 6.05 if you wished.


EDIT - @OscarTalks & nic007, sorry for belatedly butting in here; took me a fair while to set up and test all that in both Precise and Tahr, then type it all out! You both answered him while I was busy "fettling" it Embarassed

Nice tip about the configuration setting, worked for me in Palemoon27 running Tahr. Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Apr 2019, 12:23    Post subject:  

a_salty_dogg wrote:
@ nubc

Boot up a "virgin" copy of Precise 5.71. You can do this either by booting from a CD in RAM mode or, if you haven't got a CD drive, by simply opening up your "menu.lst" file in geany & appending
Code:
pfix=ram
to the second line (the one beginning with "kernel /Precise_5.71/vmlinuz...") of your "Precise 5.71" entry, then save, close, unmount the partition if necessary, and reboot using that entry.

Then download the latest Palemoon 32bit release, 28.4.1, from here (you will need a recent browser!), and extract all the contents of the downloaded tar.bz2 to "/opt".
If you also want to set up a menu entry, follow the instructions here.

Next open up your newly installed Palemoon and type "about:config" (note and include the colon, though without the quotation marks!) in the browser bar, accept the "I'll be careful" warning, and search for the string named
Code:
media.libavcodec.allow-obsolete;false
Double click on that line to change the "false" to "true".

Then close the tab and the browser.

Now restart Palemoon and see if your "Allegro (moderato)" video plays,

Note you could have equally performed all the above processes in a pristine install of Tahr 6.05 if you wished.


EDIT - @OscarTalks & nic007, sorry for belatedly butting in here; took me a fair while to set up and test all that in both Precise and Tahr, then type it all out! You both answered him while I was busy "fettling" it Embarassed

Nice tip about the configuration setting, worked for me in Palemoon27. Thanks. Pity it doesn't work for older Palemoon, but that's a youtube exclusion so no way around there except for streaming from a mp4 download link.
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s243a

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Apr 2019, 22:54    Post subject:  

nic007 wrote:
a_salty_dogg wrote:
@ nubc

Boot up a "virgin" copy of Precise 5.71. You can do this either by booting from a CD in RAM mode or, if you haven't got a CD drive, by simply opening up your "menu.lst" file in geany & appending
Code:
pfix=ram
to the second line (the one beginning with "kernel /Precise_5.71/vmlinuz...") of your "Precise 5.71" entry, then save, close, unmount the partition if necessary, and reboot using that entry.

Then download the latest Palemoon 32bit release, 28.4.1, from here (you will need a recent browser!), and extract all the contents of the downloaded tar.bz2 to "/opt".
If you also want to set up a menu entry, follow the instructions here.

Next open up your newly installed Palemoon and type "about:config" (note and include the colon, though without the quotation marks!) in the browser bar, accept the "I'll be careful" warning, and search for the string named
Code:
media.libavcodec.allow-obsolete;false
Double click on that line to change the "false" to "true".

Then close the tab and the browser.

Now restart Palemoon and see if your "Allegro (moderato)" video plays,

Note you could have equally performed all the above processes in a pristine install of Tahr 6.05 if you wished.


EDIT - @OscarTalks & nic007, sorry for belatedly butting in here; took me a fair while to set up and test all that in both Precise and Tahr, then type it all out! You both answered him while I was busy "fettling" it Embarassed

Nice tip about the configuration setting, worked for me in Palemoon27. Thanks. Pity it doesn't work for older Palemoon, but that's a youtube exclusion so no way around there except for streaming from a mp4 download link.


I came accorss a video where this about:config tweak doesn't work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHrJx8xso4o

so while the tweak seems to help in most cases an upgraded libavcodec-extra seems to still be required to play all youtube videos.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Apr 2019, 23:17    Post subject:  

s243a wrote:
nic007 wrote:
a_salty_dogg wrote:
@ nubc

Boot up a "virgin" copy of Precise 5.71. You can do this either by booting from a CD in RAM mode or, if you haven't got a CD drive, by simply opening up your "menu.lst" file in geany & appending
Code:
pfix=ram
to the second line (the one beginning with "kernel /Precise_5.71/vmlinuz...") of your "Precise 5.71" entry, then save, close, unmount the partition if necessary, and reboot using that entry.

Then download the latest Palemoon 32bit release, 28.4.1, from here (you will need a recent browser!), and extract all the contents of the downloaded tar.bz2 to "/opt".
If you also want to set up a menu entry, follow the instructions here.


Next open up your newly installed Palemoon and type "about:config" (note and include the colon, though without the quotation marks!) in the browser bar, accept the "I'll be careful" warning, and search for the string named
Code:
media.libavcodec.allow-obsolete;false
Double click on that line to change the "false" to "true".

Then close the tab and the browser.

Now restart Palemoon and see if your "Allegro (moderato)" video plays,

Note you could have equally performed all the above processes in a pristine install of Tahr 6.05 if you wished.


EDIT - @OscarTalks & nic007, sorry for belatedly butting in here; took me a fair while to set up and test all that in both Precise and Tahr, then type it all out! You both answered him while I was busy "fettling" it Embarassed

Nice tip about the configuration setting, worked for me in Palemoon27. Thanks. Pity it doesn't work for older Palemoon, but that's a youtube exclusion so no way around there except for streaming from a mp4 download link.


I came accorss a video where this about:config tweak doesn't work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHrJx8xso4o

so while the tweak seems to help in most cases an upgraded libavcodec-extra seems to still be required to play all youtube videos.

That link works for me and I don't have the extra codecs. My libavcodec includes the extra stuff perhaps.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Apr 2019, 23:17    Post subject:  

Everything seems to be working. Does anybody understand this well enough to turn it into a procedure? Or just explain what happened to make the videos play?
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Apr 2019, 23:30    Post subject:  

nubc wrote:
Everything seems to be working. Does anybody understand this well enough to turn it into a procedure? Or just explain what happened to make the videos play?

Don't quite know what happens but I did notice that when this setting is not enabled the video statistics show that VP9 codec is in use. With the setting enabled it shows avc(odec) in use. Audio stream is also shown as mp4a. I wonder if it's streaming in mp4 format instead?
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Apr 2019, 23:33    Post subject:  

nic007 wrote:
s243a wrote:
nic007 wrote:
a_salty_dogg wrote:
@ nubc

Boot up a "virgin" copy of Precise 5.71. You can do this either by booting from a CD in RAM mode or, if you haven't got a CD drive, by simply opening up your "menu.lst" file in geany & appending
Code:
pfix=ram
to the second line (the one beginning with "kernel /Precise_5.71/vmlinuz...") of your "Precise 5.71" entry, then save, close, unmount the partition if necessary, and reboot using that entry.

Then download the latest Palemoon 32bit release, 28.4.1, from here (you will need a recent browser!), and extract all the contents of the downloaded tar.bz2 to "/opt".
If you also want to set up a menu entry, follow the instructions here.


Next open up your newly installed Palemoon and type "about:config" (note and include the colon, though without the quotation marks!) in the browser bar, accept the "I'll be careful" warning, and search for the string named
Code:
media.libavcodec.allow-obsolete;false
Double click on that line to change the "false" to "true".

Then close the tab and the browser.

Now restart Palemoon and see if your "Allegro (moderato)" video plays,

Note you could have equally performed all the above processes in a pristine install of Tahr 6.05 if you wished.


EDIT - @OscarTalks & nic007, sorry for belatedly butting in here; took me a fair while to set up and test all that in both Precise and Tahr, then type it all out! You both answered him while I was busy "fettling" it Embarassed

Nice tip about the configuration setting, worked for me in Palemoon27. Thanks. Pity it doesn't work for older Palemoon, but that's a youtube exclusion so no way around there except for streaming from a mp4 download link.


I came accorss a video where this about:config tweak doesn't work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHrJx8xso4o

so while the tweak seems to help in most cases an upgraded libavcodec-extra seems to still be required to play all youtube videos.

That link works for me and I don't have the extra codecs. My libavcodec includes the extra stuff perhaps.


Strangely it's working again for me now Surprised
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Apr 2019, 15:55    Post subject:  

I tried to boot tahr 6.0.6 k 1.30 uefi on CD, but my P4 computer can't recognize it as a boot device.
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Apr 2019, 16:24    Post subject:    

Redundant, so, post withdrawn.
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PostPosted: Fri 10 May 2019, 10:35    Post subject:  

Youtube videos now give two error screens as it sorts through available codecs. Finally, the video plays on the third try.
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