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Precise-light - 17March2019 - for older hardware
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perdido


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PostPosted: Tue 20 Aug 2019, 06:15    Post subject:  

As of the precise-light-5.7.1+0.iso___precise-light-5.7.1+3.iso.delta, there are 3 menu entries that have missing icons.

Menu-->Utility-->UExtract
Menu-->Utility-->PackIt
Menu-->Internet-->Transmission

The attached PET adds the icons to the menu entries.
It consists of updated desktop files
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Edited 09-07-16
This pet is for Precise-light-5.7.1 only.
This is not for the recently released Precise-light-5.7.2

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Aug 2019, 19:18    Post subject:  

01micko's nice little CPU temperature icon for the tray works nicely in Precise-light.
I like to keep an eye on my cpu temp as it will go over 90 degrees centigrade often, nature of the laptop design.

Go to http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=98299 for the tiny PET
Using the pmcputemp-0.63-i686.pet for Tahr.

This is not for the recently released Precise-light-5.7.2

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Sep 2019, 03:24    Post subject:  

Precise-light will run the Light browser (version-48 ) that comes with peebee's bionicpup19.03 32-bit puppy (latest version)
The Light browser is a low resource browser based on mozilla's gecko engine. It still uses the old style .xpi add-ons.

To install Light browser just copy the adrv_precise_light-5.7.1.sfs (or renamed adrv_precise_light-5.7.2.sfs) to the same directory as your
Precise-light boot files and the adrv will load automatically during boot - same way as the newer puppy versions.
You can start Light browser from the menu. use Menu-->Internet-->Light

Youtube worked for me though not extensively tested, this browser is similar to Pale Moon. Posting from it now.

Download the Light browser from bionicpup32 19.03 here
https://ibm-pc.org/puppy/precise/adrv_precise_light-5.7.1.sfs

Its about 21MB and has been renamed to a proper adrv sfs for Precise-light-5.7.1
To use in Precise-light-5.7.2 rename it to adrv_precise_light-5.7.2.sfs
This should be copied to the same directory as your Precise-light boot files and the
adrv will load automatically during boot - same way as the newer puppy versions.

Some working security related add-ons for Light browser
NoScript version 2.9.0.11, HTTPS-Everywhere version 3.4.5 and uBlock Origin version 1.16.4.7 work with Light browser.
I zipped up my "extensions" directory and made it available here due to these older ,xpi extensions being hard to find
Get them here https://ibm-pc.org/puppy/precise/extensions.tar.gz
Its 3MB and has instructions for installing the extensions in the included info.txt - install one or all, your choice.

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Sep 2019, 11:15    Post subject:  

MMview is an excellent gtk-based file viewer program that is extremely light-weight and very useful.
Read the feature list & download http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=109573

It does a lot and is tiny which fits the character of Precise-light nicely.
MMview was created by forum member MochiMoppel
I especially like his latest mod "special desktop edition"http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1035750#1035750 Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Sep 2019, 23:20    Post subject: Re: Precise Qt libraries ?
Subject description: Master PDF Editor and QT libraries working
 

mikeslr wrote:
I employ several External Applications such as masterpdfeditor. To run, these require that qt libraries first be installed. Under Precise-light the version I've successfully used is the qt package I built into Slacko 5.7.2CE. However, it weighs in as an 82 Mb pet. If you need qt libraries, I'd suggest first trying the SFS mikeb made available via this link, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=834843#834843, UNTESTED.


Good call, mikeslr, Master PDF Editor and mikeb's QT package tested and working fine in Precise-light.
I used the master-pdf-editor-3.5.10.sfs from Geoffrey available from first post in this thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=101077
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The QT package from mikeb's post, here it is one more time to consolidate the reply.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=834843#834843
Incidentally, mikeb's QT package is about 18MB and Geoffrey's Master PDF Editor is about 8MB

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jrb


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Sep 2019, 09:16    Post subject:  

I had a bit of a shock yesterday. I upgraded Palemoon from 28.6.1 to 28.7.0 and it refused to run in Precise-light. Shocked Turned out the fix was quite simple. I just installed libstdc++6_upgrade.pet and the problem was solved.

However, I have been working on a major upgrade for the last few days and am in the process of uploading now. This is sparked primarily by @Perdido's excellent suggestions and additions but also by the challenge of using a later WoofCE version.

When I first started working on Precise-light I couldn't get a working version out of the latest WoofCE-testing-17March2019. Confused So I reverted to one from 2017. This of course meant many of the latest improvements were missing, but it did work. Over the last few weeks I have managed to solve the problems and I now have a working version built with WoofCE-testing-17March2019. Why didn't I use the latest WoofCE you ask? There are some MAJOR changes lately and I didn't feel like tackling them right now. Maybe later.

Anyway precise-light-5.7.2-mk2.0.iso is uploading now as I type (its been at it for over an hour now, SLOW bandwidth). When its done I'll post links.

Sadly I don't think it will be compatible with the present savefiles. So if you really like what you have now just install the .pet I mentioned above and continue on.

BTW Thanks Perdido for your improvements on Precise-light so far. I have incorporated many of them into the new version.

Cheers, J

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Sep 2019, 09:24    Post subject:  

jrb (in part) wrote:
Anyway precise-light-5.7.2-mk2.0.iso is uploading now as I type (its been at it for over an hour now, SLOW bandwidth). When its done I'll post links.

BTW Thanks Perdido for your improvements on Precise-light so far. I have incorporated many of them into the new version.

MANY thanks to YOU, jrb! And to Perdido & any other contributors!

Sheldon

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Sep 2019, 13:11    Post subject:  

Ok, the new version is uploaded.

precise-light-5.7.2-mk2.0.iso
md5sum=06583fd75527dc24bf47b997b160e517
ISO size 110 Mb

See post #1 of this thread for a few details. Thanks again to Perdido, no more missing menu icons. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Sep 2019, 14:44    Post subject:  

jrb (in part) wrote:
Ok, the new version is uploaded.
Thank you, jrb.
Can someone tell me how to:
Make the bottom tray have only one 'virtual desktop'?
Get rid of the 'drives' icon?

Thanks a lot.

Sheldon

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Sep 2019, 16:04    Post subject:  

jrb wrote:
Ok, the new version is uploaded.

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Hi jrb,

Nice one, good download md5-hash matches Smile
Installed & connected to internet fine using Simple Network Setup
CPU temp icon shows on taskbar Smile
Four virtual desktops are cool

Same kernel so no new compiling drivers Smile

Custon screen background from futwerk Smile

Will drive it around and report back, so far everything looking and behaving, good job!

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Sep 2019, 18:10    Post subject:  

sheldonisaac wrote:
jrb (in part) wrote:
Ok, the new version is uploaded.
Thank you, jrb.
Can someone tell me how to:
Make the bottom tray have only one 'virtual desktop'?
Get rid of the 'drives' icon?

Thanks a lot.

Sheldon

In spite of Perdido's complement on having 4 desktops I can't take any credit for that, WoofCE did it on its own. I was surprised when I tried to change it in Menu->Desktop->JWM window manager settings->Tray Management and it wouldn't change. I did find the config file in /root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal_old. If you open that as text and change <Desktops width="2" height="2"/> to <Desktops width="1" height="1"/> and then restart JWM, Menu->Exit->Restart Window Manager, you will have 1 lonely desktop.

If you have a "drives" icon it means you've already changed settings in Desktop Drive Manager, right? Anyway open Menu->Desktop->Desktop drive icons manager and uncheck "Activate Puppy Events Manager" on the Activate menu and click OK. Right click on the "drives" icon and choose "Remove Item". The drive icon will disappear. Will it last, I don't know.
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Sep 2019, 22:30    Post subject:  

jrb wrote:
I was surprised when I tried to change it in Menu->Desktop->JWM window manager settings->Tray Management and it wouldn't change.

The fix was super simple and will certainly be part of the 1st update.
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Sep 2019, 01:43    Post subject:  

A general libstdc++.so.6 upgrade may break other software (geany?). I stick with my palemoon-28.7.0-glibc219tweak.pet.
I was forced to copy from the original precise 5.7.1 the utility find in /usr/bin for PPM to work.
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Sep 2019, 05:55    Post subject:  

watchdog wrote:

I was forced to copy from the original precise 5.7.1 the utility find in /usr/bin for PPM to work.

Hi watchdog,
attn: jrb
The find utility was replaced in Precise-lite with the version from upupbionic32 due to inconsistencies with output when running the delta2pet utility.
See this post http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1025167#1025167

I just completed testing in Precise-lite again with the find version 4.4.2 from original precise 5.7.1 vs. find version 4.7.0 from upupbb32 that had replaced it.

It turns out the find utility from the original precise 5.7.1 works fine and there was no need to to substitute with the upupbb version, I must have accidently left
the upupbb version from Precise-lite out or in sometime during testing after replacing the /usr/bin/diff utility and I thought I needed the find v4.7.0 from upupbb when
I had success creating the PET. Embarassed Completely an oversite on my part and I apologize for any wasted time it caused.

In summary, the original find version 4.4.2 from precise 5.7.1 works fine when creating a pet using the delta2pet utility, Thanks for bringing this up!

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Sep 2019, 08:24    Post subject:  

watchdog wrote:
A general libstdc++.so.6 upgrade may break other software (geany?).
Many things in life may happen. It would be more helplful to know if something has happened?.
watchdog wrote:
I was forced to copy from the original precise 5.7.1 the utility find in /usr/bin for PPM to work.
Here again it would be more helpful to know what happened. I've tested PPM but come up with no problems.

I am very interested to hear any specific problems you have had.

Thanks, jrb
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