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wanderer

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 18:19    Post subject:  

thank you wiak

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 18:22    Post subject:  

sorry wanderer, posts crossed. I don't understand what you mean by "project's subforum". What is that?
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 18:32    Post subject:  

there are 2 main subforums
where people post their project threads

puppy derivatives

and

puppy projects

things that are not derivatives of puppy
could be considered puppy projects

so I suggest that
voluntarily
the non puppy based projects
be restricted to the puppy projects subforum

this would leave the rest of the forum for puppy stuff
but still leave a place for the non puppy based projects

so we would be out of the way
but have a limited section
where people knew non puppy based projects lived

does anyone have an opinion on this proposal

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 18:36    Post subject:  

Wanderer, I see. That's fine, I'd be grateful though if that re-organisation discussion could be continued on the other thread which was about such matters, since this thread here is solely about my first post idea. I'm referring to the discussion thread that started this all off:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1019934#1019934
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 18:38    Post subject:  

So, now we do have two different topics devolving into the same issue.

Lots of talk but solution: none

As usual...

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 18:41    Post subject:  

ITSMERSH wrote:
So, now we do have two different topics devolving into the same issue.

Lots of talk but solution: none

As usual...

Laughing


Sorry, ITSMERSH, but negative comments don't help. The other thread referred to was the 'talk':

Quote:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1019934#1019934


This thread is solely about an idea I proposed and being a do-ocracy, I created the post I suggested - but this is not the general discussion thread. This is an implementation of but one idea from that (it is the opposite of 'just talk'). I'd certainly like to see the forum re-built such that all distributions get fair share of exposure.

However, post what and where as you wish - up to the moderators to tidy the mess in the end.

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 18:43    Post subject:  

no problem guys

I thought they were the same issue

but that is all I really have to say

so I will just continue to follow this thread with great interest

I think a lot has already been accomplished

in just highlighting some interesting projects

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 18:44    Post subject:  

Hi wiak.

I don't see any negative comments to the issue in my post.

Quote:
The other thread referred to was the 'talk'. This thread is solely about an idea I proposed and being a do-ocracy, I created the post I suggested - but this is not the general discussion thread.

I think almost all of those other posters within this thread needs this information much more urgent than myself. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 18:47    Post subject:  

wanderer wrote:
I thought they were the same issue


Yes, one implementation to do with the same issue, so fine, maybe other post now considered dead so in that case that bigger discussion might as well continue here too. I see your point - both about same matter really.
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 18:47    Post subject:  

The description of the "Puppy Projects" section says: "A home for all kinds of Puppy related projects"

In my opinion wiak's first post should not be considered as "cataloguing" (as wiak already stated). As I see it, the only goal is to roughly list most types of different distributions presented on murga-linux and therefore avoid confusion for users about what-is-what as much as possible.

What could be added to first post maybe is that for the "other-than-real-puppy" distributions, that any comments, questions, bug reports etc.. should be posted in the specific threads about that particular distribution, so that all other sections won't be "polluted" by it.

wanderer wrote:
I would like to see
all
puppy and non puppy based
old and new
distros
listed and reviewed here


That's nearly impossible, I think, and also not the purpose of this thread IMO.

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 18:48    Post subject:  

as we are a community with all the best intentions

let us all work together for the common good

wanderer

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 18:49    Post subject:  

ITSMERSH wrote:

I think almost all of those other posters within this thread needs this information much more urgent than myself. Wink

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I think the words "urgent" and "need" are more than a little over-the-top Wink
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 18:50    Post subject:  

wiak wrote:
ITSMERSH wrote:

I think almost all of those other posters within this thread needs this information much more urgent than myself. Wink

Laughing


I think the words "urgent" and "need" are more than a little over-the-top Wink

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2019, 19:32    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:

What could be added to first post maybe is that for the "other-than-real-puppy" distributions, that any comments, questions, bug reports etc.. should be posted in the specific threads about that particular distribution, so that all other sections won't be "polluted" by it.


Very true. Done. (Except that real-puppy distribution questions shouldn't generally be posted in other distributions threads either, so your comment is universal).
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Mar 2019, 04:17    Post subject:  

wiak wrote:
]I am happy to hear I misunderstood thinking you were classing others as second class citizens.

Good we cleared that!
Would be nice to know (and see relevant actions) that you also do not consider second class “citizens” efforts present in the forum and not included in your list.

To the literal issue now.
Forum makes nothing available other that links and scripts. Certainly not distributions.
Regarding the content of the post,
- the EasyOS developer has chosen to focus the support in another forum. Why do you want to focus the support here?
- The Quirky developer announced 3 months ago that is not supported/developed anymore and as far as I can see no one stepped in. Why do you include it in the list?
- The FatDog team appears pretty happy with the current status. They focus on their original solid work, and because of that they are in the top 100 of distrowatch (congratulations FatDog team). All relevant Fatdog entries point to this forum for support and there are no complains from developers or users. Why do you insinuate otherwise?

Only the two offerings you are directly involved into (DDs and corepup) and tazpup is what we are “discussing” here (btw would be nice to hear if @mistfire feels “overlooked”). But even for those 3 I have not seen a single post (please point to one if I missed it) claiming that is hard to locate relevant threads in this forum, get answers to related questions or identify download or home sites.

So why all this discussion other than, as clearly stated in the past, that
wiak wrote:
As far as the forum itself is concerned, just wish it would adopt more generic topic titles rather than still being Puppy-centric. Puppy has long ago stopped being the centre of this forum universe, whose diversity should be acknowleged
Is the same feeling of under-appreciation and desire for recognition that generated the issues and the breakup of the original DD team, I’m afraid.
Just ask Murga to change the forum header already!…

But what is MY problem with all these???
As mentioned, I believe this thread segregates first and second class efforts just to offer the first class moniker to DDs.
Second, the information presented is both inaccurate and misleading (as mentioned above).
Third, is a source of friction rather than consolidation (as any segregation is destined to be)
Fourth, I have to admit that I personally do not like “evasive” approaches, as I feel this one is and the posts above indicate.

I think that that's all the 2 cent coins I had to offer. Have a good day/night now.

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