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wanderer

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Mar 2019, 11:52    Post subject:  

hi all

i am posting this from puppy 8 32 bit

light browser

everything is working great

looks very awesome


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musher0

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Mar 2019, 12:22    Post subject:  

Hello all.

If anyone feels creative, in this post you will find a way to access a not-so-old
woof-CE-Testing archive enabling you to create a wide range of Puppies. Please go
and see, the list is rather long, and it would not be appropriate to repeat it.

Unfortunately, Woof-CE is not offering creative Puppyists such a wide choice of builds
anymore, AFAIK. Hopefully, some of you will be the next generation of Puppy-builders!

Enjoy!

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wanderer

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2019, 13:16    Post subject:  

hi all

just posting

i am now using bionicpup32
and it is working great

its great to be back using a puppy again
i had forgotten a lot

i stopped using puppy
because i couldn't get any of the new puppies to work

then i started playing with corepup

maybe i will eventually woof-ce a puppy after all

i will also continue to play with corepup of course
since that is also a great system

will post again soon

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fredx181


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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2019, 13:36    Post subject:  

hi wanderer,

Quote:
i will also continue to play with corepup of course
since that is also a great system


Sure, corepup can become great, but I think you should try getting some help from puppy developers to make it being more like a Puppy, by maybe e.g. including programs adopted from Puppy, if possible, support for .pet packages etc...
Working on it alone is... just alone, not very stimulating IMHO.

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wanderer

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2019, 13:47    Post subject:  

thank you fredx

yes i need help

i need to know how to change puppy sfs files and pets

into ordinary folders

than i can either symlink the folder to root

or make them into a tcz

also i need to look at the deb2tcz script


im working on it but slowly and inexpertly as usual


thanks for the encouragement


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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2019, 14:49    Post subject:  

wanderer wrote:
thank you fredx

yes i need help

i need to know how to change puppy sfs files and pets

into ordinary folders

than i can either symlink the folder to root

or make them into a tcz

also i need to look at the deb2tcz script



Hi Wanderer,

ITMERSH's PaDS 1.1.4, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=998922#998922 can already make use of .tazpkg's as well as other containers in the creation of SFSes and Pets. During the creation process it decompresses the 'source' container into a folder. However, that folder ceases to exist when the pet or sfs has been created.

Perhaps, if asked nicely, ITSMERSH could either modify PaDS or make a special version for use with Corepup to (a) either generate a tcz or (b) leave the 'Work-folder' in existence.

(b) Would be easier: merely copy the 'Work Folder' before compression. (a) would require knowing differences, if any, between how puppy structures and uses files; and, if nothing else, any special requirements pertaining to generating menu-listings. [By way of illustration, debs created for debian or Ubuntu often use "Category" definitions not employed by Puppies].

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2019, 14:52    Post subject:  

thanks mikslr

sounds great

i will check into it
maybe i can stop the script before it deletes the folder

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wanderer

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2019, 14:54    Post subject:  

i am checking it now

he has done fantastic work

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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2019, 15:02    Post subject:  

It's been a while since I examined PaDS carefully; and coding isn't my 'strong-suit'. But, I know there's a point just before a pet or SFS is created where User input takes place: such as to select among multiple icons for the menu - or just press "Finish". Shouldn't be difficult to include a 'copy folder to somewhere' command just after that, before compression occurs.

Even more comprehensive would be SFS's UExtract which can decompress pets, and tcz's among scores of containers, creating a folder within which are a copy of all the files from the container organized according to the structures they had in the container.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2019, 15:46    Post subject:  

thanks mikeslr

looks like just what i need


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backi

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2019, 16:12    Post subject:  

Hi you guys !
In case you did not know ITMERSH has been banned , because of rude/nasty Behavior to nic007.
In my opinion he went more than quite far... but I am no Friend of banning .......he better had apologized to nic007 .
His Talent is really missed and needed.....lots of cool Tools he created ....
Don`t know from what Devil he was ridden ,
But that`s the Way it is .
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2019, 16:44    Post subject:  

backi wrote:
Hi you guys !
In case you did not know ITMERSH has been banned , because of rude/nasty Behavior to nic007.
In my opinion he went more than quite far... but I am no Friend of banning .......he better had apologized to nic007 .
His Talent is really missed and needed.....lots of cool Tools he created ....
Don`t know from what Devil he was ridden ,
But that`s the Way it is .


Yes, sad that he went, btw, he requested himself to Flash to be banned from the forum.
I have the feeling that it didn't have to do only with the fight he had with nic007.
Maybe he just needed to force a situation like that because he wanted to start a "new" life (whatever that might be) Rolling Eyes Question
(but just a guess really, who am I to analyze his personality from distance)

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2019, 16:53    Post subject:  

Maybe he will reincarnate in a renewed Body/Personality after his Death ..... freed from his Past- Life Karma . Wink Wink

See you Fred !
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wiak

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Apr 2019, 20:04    Post subject:  

In case anyone forgets what distros contain threads/support on this forum please refer to first post of this thread.

Personally I've stopped all dev work for Puppy or woof-CE/makepup since this distro-support information is not being made sticky in some form or another.

I suggest Xenial or Bionic Dog to new users (note I'm referring to the Dog versions, not the similarly named Pups, which are no smaller but are limited in comparison to these Ubuntu-based Dogs); also, Void Linux for those keen on helping to develop an independent distribution. The Dogs provide all the nice dev tools and utilities and ease-of-use out of the box. Void Linux is superb but currently for full install use and needs additions added per a user's taste - but great for tinkering with as a developer or someone wanting to build a new slimmer (live or frugal) distro based on it.

The following are the murga-forum threads for 64bit versions of Bionic and XenialDog. I don't use Cinnamon version since that slows down my system too much. 32bit versions of these Dogs are also available in 'Puppy Projects' section.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=113210
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=109476

For more info, refer to: https://debiandog.github.io/doglinux/

Hence I keep two distros on my dev machine: XenialDog64 since has everything immediately on hand for working with squashfs, aufs, overlayfs and more + Void Linux for my dev tinkering/programming etc pursuits.

BionicDog64 or XenialDog64 also tend to work flawlessly, but also have great forum support and good user interface (including great right-click selection operations in PCManFM File Manager; Rox Filemanager is also available, though I personally rarely use that).

The only thing that occasionally/very-rarely might give a problem (applies to all distributions, including Pups) would be if your hardware did not have some small piece of firmware included by default with the Dog (though most are well covered). However, that is generally an easy issue to track down and fix - you would just need to ask on the appropriate Dog thread.

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Apr 2019, 14:26    Post subject:  

hi wiak

are you still working on your tinycore/slitaz project
and is there a thread for it

edit
oh sorry i did not see your posts on slitaz
are you working on any minimal modular stuff like tinycore

also i am going to keep posting on this thread to keep it up
since that is the only way available
i think the puppy forum guys probaly just have too much in their plate

thanks for all your work
we all appreciate it

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