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NetSurf 3.9
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8Geee


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PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2019, 22:30    Post subject: shutdown 'bug'  

When I ran netsurf 3.8 as in previous post everything worked well.

Upon MENU --> Shutdown --> shutdown Puppy hung for a few minutes, so 'hard-off' with power button.

Not sure why this happened, but could it be due to disk cache, or mem cache, or both being implemented? ( my ops was both )

Anyone else have this 'problem'?

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2019, 05:04    Post subject:  

Not had a problem with shutdown 8gee, netsurf closes ok as does shutdown.

Thanks for the info OscarTalks, I am not using Wheezy except on a netbook, because it has the fan speed, volume buttons etc working, whereas Artful doesn't have those, but I was using the Wheezy Netsurf in Artful and it seems to be working well.
Artful is a sweet spot for dual core and Intel imo. Plus swap kernels much easier and more drivers for recent ancilliaries.
I just checked the two libs required: I have in /lib
libcrypto.so.098
libcrypto.so.1.0.0
libssl.so.098
libssl.so.1.0.0
So I guess whatever Netsurf is good for those I will use.
The Light browser will do the odious recapture sites so not a problem.
It's a bit crazy that we have to use different browsers these days for a sane experience (Quantum is very unstable and sluggish with dual core I find, Chromium, not so much).
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2019, 15:39    Post subject:  Slacko 5.6 and 5.7 uses wheezy version  

Trying the wheezy version of ALT-2, since reported good on Slacko5.6.
No Disk cache... 32Mb mem cache. Privacy setup w/javascript.

*** UPDATE: No issues with wheezy version. Shutdown/Restart normal in Slacko5.7 (and derivative AtomicPup-XIX). Also, cookies purged upon quit. Very nice. ***

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PS: we could use a link to TTF fonts or ask for Liberation Family Fonts (sans, serif, mono). A bit difficult to read these postings.

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2019, 16:03    Post subject:  

There is a version of NetSurf which I compiled in Slacko 5.7 which might be better for Slacko 5.6

The name is netsurf-3.8-slack14.0

One difference is that Slacko uses libpng14 although I think it also has libpng12 on board for compatibility. Also, Debian and Ubuntu have the version information symbols in their openssl libraries whereas Slackware do not.

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2019, 16:13    Post subject:  

Thanks Oscar, I have libpng12 symlinked to 14 in my spin. Both attempts Slackware 14.1 and wheezy seemed to run OK during use. Just the shutdown hang on 14.1. My spin has updated quite a lot of internal stuff since 01micko released the original.

A good reason to test this nice little browser.

Both versions run one font, though giving a choice in Preferences. If there's a way around it, I'm all ears. The Liberation font system (12 sets) runs just over 1 Mb. Considering the 2Mb browser D/L its large. Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2019, 17:19    Post subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:
More versions compiled in Tahr (32bit), Tahr (64bit), Xenial (32bit), and Xenial (64bit)
Uploaded for testing to http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
I'm here via the Xenial 32bit version of March 7.
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PostPosted: Mon 06 May 2019, 09:12    Post subject: Slackware 14.0  

Having a few irons in the fire, I got around to trying/using the subject version.It works better than the wheezy version, and is a keeper.

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PostPosted: Tue 07 May 2019, 14:36    Post subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:
There is a version of NetSurf which I compiled in Slacko 5.7 which might be better for Slacko 5.6

The name is netsurf-3.8-slack14.0

One difference is that Slacko uses libpng14 although I think it also has libpng12 on board for compatibility. Also, Debian and Ubuntu have the version information symbols in their openssl libraries whereas Slackware do not.
Hi OscarTalks. Thanks for these packages!

I am running a Slacko 5.6 derivative and found the following:

14.1 (slacko 5.7) pet does not run for me as it complains about Glibc2.17 missing (or similar message - Glibc or GTK issue. I will download again if you need the exact message)

14.0 (slacko 5.6) pet does not run - gives error message as follows:
Code:
# netsurf
NetSurf core failed to initialise (InitFailed)
#


The wheezy pet runs fine.

(My system is not an exact Slacko 5.6 replica so maybe an issue with my specific setup).
At least the Wheezy version seems compatible with my pup.

cheers!
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PostPosted: Tue 07 May 2019, 18:47    Post subject:  

Hello greengeek,

I wouldn't expect the 14.1 Slacko version to work in a 14.0 Slacko because the glibc version would be too old so that result is as expected.

I don't recognise the error you are seeing with the 14.0 version, but if your Puppy has been modified then there is always the risk that it won't work as it does in the original. Upgrades to openssl are something to look out for.

Builds in older versions are more likely to work in newer Pups than the other way round. The Wheezy one is built against glibc 2.13 so is always likely to be more versatile in that respect. Glad that one appears to work in your case.

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PostPosted: Mon 13 May 2019, 13:06    Post subject:  

g/g

Is the netsurf binary in usr/bin ? At least the slack14.0 version wants it there.

PS this works with slacko5.7 modified, even openssl 1.0.2p

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PostPosted: Mon 13 May 2019, 16:03    Post subject:  

8Geee wrote:
g/g

Is the netsurf binary in usr/bin ?
Yes - it exists as a link to /usr/bin/netsurf-gtk which is also there.

Maybe ssl has something to do with my problem? I have not updated recently.
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PostPosted: Thu 16 May 2019, 19:22    Post subject:  

Just for farts and giggles, I took the Netsurf Pup to my local McD's to check on the free but unsecured wifi. Since I notice that Netsurf has problems with "script-buttons" I thought this might fail.

It did.

No "Accept" button appeared, and thus no connection. Everything else OK up to that point.

Same thing at a local Dunkin' (Donuts). So it remains a secure browser in a back-handed way. Wink Now if we could get the author(s) to remove SSL3, TLS1.0, and TLS1.1 from the certs, it would pass muster with Qualys Client check.

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Jun 2019, 19:10    Post subject: Update  

Just visited the "new and improved" Classic (old-fashioned) Yahoo Mail. FF27 rendered this close to html, FF66 rendered properly, and Netsurf3.8 was a lot closer to FF66 than FF27.

And a polite bump... has anyone got connected to free-wifi, or home wifi, or network wifi with NS3.8?

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Jun 2019, 17:38    Post subject: Qualys Client test Netsurf3.8-slacko14.0  

This is copy paste of the results per jamesbond's request
Some aspects of the page are missing, notably the vunerability checks. What JB posted is very close to my FF66.0.5 results. Netsurf... not good IMHO.

Protocols
TLS 1.3 No
TLS 1.2 Yes*
TLS 1.1 Yes*
TLS 1.0 Yes*
SSL 3 Yes*
SSL 2 No

Cipher Suites (in order of preference)
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (0xc030)   Forward Secrecy 256
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (0xc02c)   Forward Secrecy 256
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384 (0xc028)  WEAK 256
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384 (0xc024)  WEAK 256
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (0xc02f)   Forward Secrecy 128
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (0xc02b)   Forward Secrecy 128
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (0xc027)  WEAK 128
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (0xc023)  WEAK 128
TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (0x9f)   Forward Secrecy 256
TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256 (0x6b)  WEAK 256
TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (0x9e)   Forward Secrecy 128
TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (0x67)  WEAK 128
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (0xc014)  WEAK 256
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (0xc00a)  WEAK 256
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (0xc013)  WEAK 128
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (0xc009)  WEAK 128
TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (0x39)  WEAK 256
TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (0x33)  WEAK 128
TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (0x2f)  WEAK 128
TLS_EMPTY_RENEGOTIATION_INFO_SCSV (0xff) -
(1) When a browser supports SSL 2, its SSL 2-only suites are shown only on the very first connection to this site. To see the suites, close all browser windows, then open this exact page directly. Don't refresh.

Protocol Details
Server Name Indication (SNI) Yes
Secure Renegotiation Yes
TLS compression No
Session tickets Yes
OCSP stapling No
Signature algorithms SHA512/RSA, SHA512/DSA, SHA512/ECDSA, SHA384/RSA, SHA384/DSA, SHA384/ECDSA, SHA256/RSA, SHA256/DSA, SHA256/ECDSA, SHA224/RSA, SHA224/DSA, SHA224/ECDSA, SHA1/RSA, SHA1/DSA, SHA1/ECDSA
Named Groups secp256r1, secp521r1, brainpoolP512r1, brainpoolP384r1, secp384r1, brainpoolP256r1, secp256k1, sect571r1, sect571k1, sect409k1, sect409r1, sect283k1, sect283r1
Next Protocol Negotiation Yes
Application Layer Protocol Negotiation No
SSL 2 handshake compatibility No

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Oct 2019, 09:53    Post subject: NetSurf-3.9  

NetSurf-3.9

built by AlienBob

Tested and seems OK on 32-bit ScPup, BionicPup32, UPupEE and LxPupSc

http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/slackbuilds/netsurf/pkg/14.2/netsurf-3.9-i586-1alien.tgz
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